Soft or Hard Raqcing Tyres

[topshedjohn]

I have been playing GT5 for some time now and have noticed that soft racing tyres will always give me faster lap times than the medium or hard tyres. I have also noted that there is no detectable difference in wear rates. So, under what circumstances would one use medium or hard tyres?

 

[ElSecundo]

I have been playing GT5 for some time now and have noticed that soft racing tyres will always give me faster lap times than the medium or hard tyres. I have also noted that there is no detectable difference in wear rates. So, under what circumstances would one use medium or hard tyres?

In most non-endurance events, tire wear and fuel consumption aren't a factor. When you get to the longer races, your tires will definitely wear out.

I ran the Indy 500 the other day, which puts a heavy strain on the rear tires. You have to pit quite a bit, and the trip in and out of the pits takes a long time. If you use soft front tires and hard rear tires, you won't lose too much speed, but it'll keep you out of the pits much longer, somewhere around 25 laps. With soft front and rear tires, I was going into the pits every 10 or 12 laps, and the soft tires don't give you enough of an advantage on the track that it's worth pitting that much.

 

[SmokingCones]

In most non-endurance events, tire wear and fuel consumption aren't a factor. When you get to the longer races, your tires will definitely wear out.

I ran the Indy 500 the other day, which puts a heavy strain on the rear tires. You have to pit quite a bit, and the trip in and out of the pits takes a long time. If you use soft front tires and hard rear tires, you won't lose too much speed, but it'll keep you out of the pits much longer, somewhere around 25 laps. With soft front and rear tires, I was going into the pits every 10 or 12 laps, and the soft tires don't give you enough of an advantage on the track that it's worth pitting that much.

You might be right for Indy, but I did some tire wear tests while running Le Mans and Nürburgring 4h and came to different results.

Le Mans with CLK-GTR (RH): 10-11 laps
Le Mans with CLK-GTR (RS): 8-9 laps

Nürburgring 4h with Elise 111 (RH): 6 laps
Nürburgring 4h with Elise 111 (RS): 5 laps

The wear difference between hards and softs is too close imo, especially if you consider how faster your lap times will be on softs.

I always pick soft tires for an endurance, which shouldn't be logic, but it's the most effective.

 

[ElSecundo]

Agreed, one of the things we see is that with the higher powered cars, they tend to smoke the hard racing tires coming out of low-speed corners. I think this is why they wear so badly on the tracks you mentioned, but at Indy, they don't smoke 'em.

If the car had less power, it's likely that the hard tires would have enough grip to keep from smoking the tires, and the hard racing tires would last much longer than the softs. But stick them on the Minolta Toyota 88C on a track with tighter corners, and that's a recipe for a big cloud of tire smoke.

I'm surprised about the Elise, though!

 

[Jolliff87]

In F1 they use soft and hard racing tyres.

hard tyres are good as they last longer than soft tyres and go abit faster on straights but with a disadvantage of cornering

Soft tyres are ace as they corner better than hard tyres but wear out quick.

so soft tyres i think are better.. My Opinion

 

[bombe32]

I would say: Racing softs all the way!

IMO the racing hards are not good enough. Sure they may last longer, but how much time do you lose? Often you lose too much time per lap with LMP class cars to make the hard ones be better in the long run.

 

[Hig-GT]

Gt5 doesnt simulate tyres well at all. Racing Hards dont make you faster on a straight. I personally find you may aswell just run with racing softs ... Whatever way you look at it its fastest lap times and race times on lap ltd races.

 

[Jolliff87]

Gt5 doesnt simulate tyres well at all. Racing Hards dont make you faster on a straight. I personally find you may aswell just run with racing softs ... Whatever way you look at it its fastest lap times and race times on lap ltd races.

well gt5 is soposed to be Real simulator and in real life they do make u go faster but not alot, probs 10mph

 

[GTP_Monkey]

In most non-endurance events, tire wear and fuel consumption aren't a factor. When you get to the longer races, your tires will definitely wear out.

I ran the Indy 500 the other day, which puts a heavy strain on the rear tires. You have to pit quite a bit, and the trip in and out of the pits takes a long time. If you use soft front tires and hard rear tires, you won't lose too much speed, but it'll keep you out of the pits much longer, somewhere around 25 laps. With soft front and rear tires, I was going into the pits every 10 or 12 laps, and the soft tires don't give you enough of an advantage on the track that it's worth pitting that much.

I did the indy 500 in the Minolta Toyota and was pittting every 28 laps on racing soft, A1 pitted around the 40 mark lap. won the race with 8 laps in hand.

 

[JJ72]

hard always, soft is just too easy.

 

[Hig-GT]

well gt5 is soposed to be Real simulator and in real life they do make u go faster but not alot, probs 10mph

I know it is the Real Driving Simulator but clearly they don't think tyres are that important.

Racing Hards will not make you 10mph on the straight, that is an absurd statement.

 

[ElSecundo]

I did the indy 500 in the Minolta Toyota and was pittting every 28 laps on racing soft, A1 pitted around the 40 mark lap. won the race with 8 laps in hand.

I'm not that good about preserving my tires.

Car setup also makes a big difference in tire wear. Is your Toyota set up stock, or has it been changed?

I finished 14 laps up, and 6 more laps worth of speed can use a lot more tires.

 

[Jolliff87]

I know it is the Real Driving Simulator but clearly they don't think tyres are that important.

Racing Hards will not make you 10mph on the straight, that is an absurd statement.

then nothings real on gt5 then. tyres are sopsoed to be perfect jus as much as car detail.

oh well, sopose its only a game that cost 60 mill.

 

[Hig-GT]

then nothings real on gt5 then. tyres are sopsoed to be perfect jus as much as car detail.

oh well, sopose its only a game that cost 60 mill.

That's absurd! The number of stitches on the steering wheel of a Lamborghini really is real!

 

[Murderjetz]

I've only done the 300 km grand valley endurance race so far, but I found it had a lot to do with the way I was driving the car. I started off driving balls to the wall with hard tires, they were getting pretty shot after only 6 laps. Then i switched to mediums, and was able to make them last about 12 laps. The biggest thing was pumping the brakes. Instead of steadily holding down the brakes, I was tapping the square button on and off. You stop almost just as fast and it conserves your tires like crazy. The other thing is careful throttle control as you exit your turns. You're not gonna go any faster by slamming the gas because doing so makes you lose traction anyway, so just go easy on it.