Some Interesting Tests/Results

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So I was curious as to how acurate pd made the cars in the game in relation to real life. Heres what I factored in: Horsepower,torque,weight, weight ballance, gear ratios, tires. My test car was the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1.

Stock specifications are as follows for the real life car.Horsepower:638Torque:604 Gear ratios (:1): First: 2.29 Second: 1.61 Third: 1.21 Fourth: 1.00 Fifth: 0.81 Sixth:0.67 Reverse:3.11 Final drive ratio:3.42 Curb weight 1519-kg/3348.82-lbs. The weight ballance is 51/49 or 51% in the front and 49% in the rear.

Now for the gt5 Zr1. When I bought it the power and weight was slightly off. The dealership shows the correct power numbers but the weight was less than the real life car about 11kg lighter. After I bought it, it didnt come with the power numbers shown in the dealer, it came with much less I think only 612hp even though it says 638. So to make up for this I decided to see if an oil change would make it go the correct power only to find out that it makes it too powerfull at 650hp. I did not do the oil change because I know that will raise the torque as well and you can bring torque lower by adjusting the engine power %. So by surprise i installed the sport intake manifold and racing air filter which brought the power of the car to 638hp and 604ft-lb. The rpms of the these number also stayed the same. Now lets move on to weight. Like stated earlier the gt5 car is 11 lighter than what it is in real life so I added 11kg to make up for it. Now the weight ballance was also not correct. In real life its 51/49 but in gt5 its the opposite 49/51 very strange huh. Also the transmission gear ratios in gt5 were all correct.

Now the real fun begins, testing the following numbers comparing real life vs gt5. I have tested 0-60mph, 0-100mph, and 1/4mile times. The real life times I found from various sources are as follows: 0-60mph 3.2-3.4s 0-100mph 7s 1/4 mile 11.2-11.3s Trap speed around 130mph. Using route X with an automatic transmission I got some interesting results. Soo as you all should know by know high end cars in gt5 come with sport hard tires. When I tested sport hard tires the times in gt5 were way slower than the real life times as an example I couldnt even get under 3.8s 0-60mph at 0.74gs using various launches. So I moved on the sport medium. These were also slower, I couldnt get under 3.5 0-60mph at 0.82 gs. Now for sport soft. using these tires I was able to match all times in real life. The sport soft tires numbers are as follows: at 0.89gs 0-60mph 3.2-3.4s 0-100mph 7s 1/4mile 11.3s. With a black screen launch only the 1/4mile was off at 11.403s but the 0-60/100mph stayed in the real life number window. Timed launches at different rpms produced much lower times compared to the black screen launch but all remained in the real life number window. The fastest 1/4mile time I got was 11.300.

Again I used an automatic transmission and no aids, completly stock except for those 2 upgrades to make the numbers correct and of course adding the sport soft tires. In conclusion I think that in order to get true to life physics (at least in a straight line) is to use sport soft tires on productions cars. Congratulations to Polyphony Digital for creating such a true to life experience in a video game! I think I am going to test other cars too including different drivetrains to truely see the accuracy of gt5, so far its looking pretty good. Also heres some pics.
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Yeah, stock cars seem to be pretty accurate, but as soon as you modify them, the realism gets blown out of the water...

For eg, it takes companies like Alpha AMS to put in 1500+ bhp into their GTR's to achieve the same 8.9 sec results the 950 bhp GTR's achieve in this game lol. It takes Underground Lambo 1600 bhp to run 8.9 sec lambos, where as it only takes 920bhp on this game, etc lol...

But I done similar tests as yours when I first got Route X with the DLC cars, GTR, Aventador and the Aston Martin and all were within 0.1 sec of their claimed 1/4 real life times with Sports Soft tyres 👍
 
Dom00000
So I was curious as to how acurate pd made the cars in the game in relation to real life. Heres what I factored in: Horsepower,torque,weight, weight ballance, gear ratios, tires. My test car was the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1.

Stock specifications are as follows for the real life car.Horsepower:638Torque:604 Gear ratios (:1): First: 2.29 Second: 1.61 Third: 1.21 Fourth: 1.00 Fifth: 0.81 Sixth:0.67 Reverse:3.11 Final drive ratio:3.42 Curb weight 1519-kg/3348.82-lbs. The weight ballance is 51/49 or 51% in the front and 49% in the rear.

Now for the gt5 Zr1. When I bought it the power and weight was slightly off. The dealership shows the correct power numbers but the weight was less than the real life car about 11kg lighter. After I bought it, it didnt come with the power numbers shown in the dealer, it came with much less I think only 612hp even though it says 638. So to make up for this I decided to see if an oil change would make it go the correct power only to find out that it makes it too powerfull at 650hp. I did not do the oil change because I know that will raise the torque as well and you can bring torque lower by adjusting the engine power %. So by surprise i installed the sport intake manifold and racing air filter which brought the power of the car to 638hp and 604ft-lb. The rpms of the these number also stayed the same. Now lets move on to weight. Like stated earlier the gt5 car is 11 lighter than what it is in real life so I added 11kg to make up for it. Now the weight ballance was also not correct. In real life its 51/49 but in gt5 its the opposite 49/51 very strange huh. Also the transmission gear ratios in gt5 were all correct.

Now the real fun begins, testing the following numbers comparing real life vs gt5. I have tested 0-60mph, 0-100mph, and 1/4mile times. The real life times I found from various sources are as follows: 0-60mph 3.2-3.4s 0-100mph 7s 1/4 mile 11.2-11.3s Trap speed around 130mph. Using route X with an automatic transmission I got some interesting results. Soo as you all should know by know high end cars in gt5 come with sport hard tires. When I tested sport hard tires the times in gt5 were way slower than the real life times as an example I couldnt even get under 3.8s 0-60mph at 0.74gs using various launches. So I moved on the sport medium. These were also slower, I couldnt get under 3.5 0-60mph at 0.82 gs. Now for sport soft. using these tires I was able to match all times in real life. The sport soft tires numbers are as follows: at 0.89gs 0-60mph 3.2-3.4s 0-100mph 7s 1/4mile 11.3s. With a black screen launch only the 1/4mile was off at 11.403s but the 0-60/100mph stayed in the real life number window. Timed launches at different rpms produced much lower times compared to the black screen launch but all remained in the real life number window. The fastest 1/4mile time I got was 11.300.

Again I used an automatic transmission and no aids, completly stock except for those 2 upgrades to make the numbers correct and of course adding the sport soft tires. In conclusion I think that in order to get true to life physics (at least in a straight line) is to use sport soft tires on productions cars. Congratulations to Polyphony Digital for creating such a true to life experience in a video game! I think I am going to test other cars too including different drivetrains to truely see the accuracy of gt5, so far its looking pretty good. Also heres some pics.

heyyy!!! nice study i like it! im curious, where on the web did you find the exact gear ratios?
 
I know thats what I was saying. It takes like 1500 hp to achieve 8secs in real life, but GT5 only requires 950 bhp...

1500hp at full weight though which is over 300kg more than having a fully tuned one in gt5 with less hp. In gt5 though i guess more hp should be needed but i dont know.
 
Well, in GT5, the GTR 12 has 954bhp / 1303kg = 732BHP per Ton

The Alpha 12 GTR has < 1500 bhp / 1750kg = 857BHP per Ton

So by very loose based math, a 1303kg (GT5) GTR would need around 1120bhp to be on par, power to weight, anyway. Either way, I still stand by what I say, stock - the cars are pretty decent, accuracy wise. When they're fully tuned I think they lack the realism they initially had.
 
Its GT5's transmission more than anything else...

If you notice the video, he crosses the finish line right as he goes into 6th gear

max out a GTR but leave the transmission stock. I'm sure it will be slower by seconds
 
Perhaps its just a tire issue then simply too much unrealistic grip with racing softs.

Well, when you compare stock times, it is pretty accurate, but I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the AMS GT-Rs road legal anyway, and therefor don't run on 100% slicks? You would expect 8sec cars to obviously use drag slicks but I'm pretty sure the whole point of their tuning line is that they're road legal...? I could be wrong though. Also, they have an Alpha Omega GTR that runs 8.6s @ 174, although i'm not convinced that'll be road legal given it uses a shoot to assist in breaking lol.
 
I think the tranny AMS used was a stock one because I only heard 2 or 3 gear shifts, im sure that would slow it down too.
 
I think the tranny AMS used was a stock one because I only heard 2 or 3 gear shifts, im sure that would slow it down too.

Nah man, I watched a 20 minute review of the Switzer Performance 800 GTR (P800) and they were saying that the stock trannys couldn't even cope with their P600 (600rwhp) model GTRs. I dont think the tranny could ever be stock in a 1500bhp motor, unless I missread what you wrote lol.
 
Nah man, I watched a 20 minute review of the Switzer Performance 800 GTR (P800) and they were saying that the stock trannys couldn't even cope with their P600 (600rwhp) model GTRs. I dont think the tranny could ever be stock in a 1500bhp motor, unless I missread what you wrote lol.
Oh ya lol I didnt even think of that, but then how come theres only like 2 or 3 gear shifts odd to me?
 
I counted 4 shifts, using 5 gears mate. If you go to 0:53 into the video.

As soon as he launches, he quick shifts into 2nd, then at 0:55 he changes into 3rd, at 0:57 he changes into 4th and at 0:59 he changes into 5th.

It's probably harder to 'hear' the first two gear changes as theres so much throttle/traction loss sounds going on lol but when they show you the cockpit replay, you can see his hands changing gears on the paddle shifter.

Plus, the stock tranny is geared to 193 mph, this model is apparently capable of 232 mph which would never occur under stock gearing I dont think lol. The GTR has six gears and in this video he only uses 5, but presumably, he would change up to 6th around about 190-200ish mph if his car would go onto 230+.
 
I counted 4 shifts, using 5 gears mate. If you go to 0:53 into the video.

As soon as he launches, he quick shifts into 2nd, then at 0:55 he changes into 3rd, at 0:57 he changes into 4th and at 0:59 he changes into 5th.

It's probably harder to 'hear' the first two gear changes as theres so much throttle/traction loss sounds going on lol but when they show you the cockpit replay, you can see his hands changing gears on the paddle shifter.

Plus, the stock tranny is geared to 193 mph, this model is apparently capable of 232 mph which would never occur under stock gearing I dont think lol. The GTR has six gears and in this video he only uses 5, but presumably, he would change up to 6th around about 190-200ish mph if his car would go onto 230+.
Damn lol thats crazy a quick shift on a gtr, stupid question but is it rear wheel drive?
 
Damn lol thats crazy a quick shift on a gtr, stupid question but is it rear wheel drive?

AWD. The main reason these things get such fast 1/4 times lol. You wouldnt think it with the way they sometimes snake down the strip though lol.

Off topic, but have a look at this Lamborghini Gallardo running 1750rwhp (which is equal to 2,100 bhp at the flywheel). 0-1/4 in 8.3 seconds @ 181mph lol!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPQfQGfY4Js

Have you ever watched the channel DragTimesInfo? It's amazing, illegal street races by some of the richest racers about.

They do Koenigseggs v Veyrons. 1200bhp GTRs vs 1500 bhp Lambos vs 200bhp Suzuki Hayabusa's etc... Porches, Enzoz, you name it! Boss channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvhxtVI4qI
 
Yah they do. Just a bunch of rich people with expensive hobby. We are much cheaper and use GT5 instead of spending $100,000 or more on cars. Lol
 
You'd expect the Nissan to be right.. Polyphony and Nissan are basically married..

i found that comment really funny. i wish this was youtube so i could vote it to the top :)
 
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i found that comment really funny. i wish this was youtube so i could vote it to the top :)

Lol if you want ill make a picture of a wedding with kaz as the bride and nissans owner the groom ;)
 
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