some questions for you hardcore GT3 racers...

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ok, sorry if these have been asked before, but i have to know:

1. Why is the torque rating messed up? It seems to be about 1/10 of what it should be. Torque (ft/lb) = hp at 5250 rpm right?

2. How can you tell the difference between setup-understeer and overpowered-not turning? I have a 900 hp RUF CTR2 that doesn't take corners worth s:censored:t on the road...fortunately it takes rally tires.

3. How many cars have drivetrains besides the usual (FF, FR, MR, 4WD)? The mid-level RUF has RR, any others?

4. Is it possible to complete the game (100%) without buying a single car?

5. What is the perfect mileage on a car? My Camaro Race Car is starting to lose hp at 250+ miles, even after an oil change.

6. What is the best car that is not available as a prize car?

thanks.
 
to number 4, someone tried this a couple of months ago and said it was impossible, you hafta by a mini or vitz or something....don't quote me on those.....but you do hafta by one or two cars.
 
1: I dont know, I too have notice the tourque levels a remarkably low.
2: The CTR2 just sucks, but if you have other cars that dont turn lower the ASM, higher the back of the car, and then see what happens
3: The Rufs are the odd balls of the group all 3 rufs are RR while every1 else isn't
4:No
5:You may have neglected to change oil. Even tho you changed it, if you race it while the oil is dirty it takes off hp that cannot be gained back.
6:Team Oreaca Viper, maybe c5R (dont buy the esperatne or gillet, the gillet is good, but not good in its class)

Hope this helps ;)
 
1. Why is the torque rating messed up? It seems to be about 1/10 of what it should be. Torque (ft/lb) = hp at 5250 rpm right?

You are correct... from what I have heard, there was a flaw in the conversion, so the decimal point should be moved to the right one place (which, in effect, multiplies the torque by 10).

2. How can you tell the difference between setup-understeer and overpowered-not turning? I have a 900 hp RUF CTR2 that doesn't take corners worth s:censored:t on the road...fortunately it takes rally tires.

Um, usually overpowered-no turning isn't much of a problem... BTW, the RR drivetrain of the CTR2 is what causes it to be so terrible at turning (someone once referred to it as a "shopping cart" drivetrain. :D I would advise that you either to go GT3 Tuner's Vault to find some settings for your CTR2, or you simply buy another car.

3. How many cars have drivetrains besides the usual (FF, FR, MR, 4WD)? The mid-level RUF has RR, any others?

Well, the Tommy Kaira ZZII has 4MD (it's engine is mid-mounted, but it has four wheel drive), but other than that, all of the other cars fall under the usual drivetrains. And, as I said b4, the CTR2's RR setup isn't a very good one, despite my love for Porsche.

4. Is it possible to complete the game (100%) without buying a single car?

Uh, yeah, but that's a little too hard... by the time you're nearing 50% completion, you should have in excess of several million credits, so there's really no reason why you should avoid buying a car.

5. What is the perfect mileage on a car? My Camaro Race Car is starting to lose hp at 250+ miles, even after an oil change.

Well, so be it. However, it shouldn't lose so much HP that you'll actually start losing positions.

6. What is the best car that is not available as a prize car?

Just get what you want. ;) However, didn't you just say that you don't want to buy any cars? :thatsodd:

thanks.

Your welcome! :p
 
I would think it is possible to complete the game without buying a single car. I haven't tried to think that much strategy out, but that is a great question!

I have tried to limit myself as much as possible on buying cars. I have only bought 10, and I don't need anything I don't already have.... :burnout:
 
4MD... That is interesting. I will have to go check that out for sure. Yes, the RR is kinda funny to see in the game, though I haven't driven one....(yet, maybe). I do like the MR cars of GT3 though, much better than GT2 for sure!
 
Well, it's not really called 4MD, I just made that up right now... however, the ZZII does have 4WD on a mid-engined platform (it's also called 4WMD) :)
 
Keep those oil changes going regularly. I discovered that 189 miles equals the oil light coming on. That is any car, any driving condition. Drive it easy or drive it hard, it doesn't matter.

About the understeer thing, your speed should be some clue to which it is. If you are going slow but still "pushing", then that may be understeer (from my experience anyway). I have experienced going pretty fast and turning the wheels, but the car goes nice and straight into the grass/sand :banghead:
 
Originally posted by youth_cycler

4. Is it possible to complete the game (100%) without buying a single car?

Uh, yeah, but that's a little too hard... by the time you're nearing 50% completion, you should have in excess of several million credits, so there's really no reason why you should avoid buying a car.



I think you might be stymied by the "Legend of the Silver Arrow" races. They're the only places to win a Mercedes, but you need a Mercedes to enter one.

Rick
 
A good way to start the game is to complete them time trials and get the panoz to win all the sunday cup races etc.
Then get golds on all the licenses and you have quite a garage... damn have to try that , what cars do you need to buy to complete GT3 keeping the number of purchased cars as low possible...

Ok let's see first you have the panoz for completing time trials
then you get golds on licenses and get this:
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype

quite good right now you haven't even completed a single race in the Sim mode and have 7 quite nice cars (awww maybe excluding the miata)...
ok so after the first races (sunday and clubman , piece of cake) you get trueno and another miata
Then we can have some fun on the begginer league FR cup with aston martin or viper (yeah all cars expect impreza are rwd but those are fun) win a silvia 1800
then take the impreza for the 4WD challenge and win the Suzuki alto thing , then you take it for the Lightweight K-Cup and get the mini...
So right now we're with:
Panoz
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Toyota sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86 Type I)
Silvia K's 1800
Suzki alto works suzuki sports limited
Mini cooper 1.3i

Ok then take the viper for the stars&stripes and win Camaro SS
Then we can win another miata in spider/roadster cup with one of our miatas , then take the miata once again to win the 80s sport car cup (i think it applies for it , to lazy to check)
then we take the NA sports and win the Del Sol , so we can tune it up and take it back to the FF cup to win a Vitz , and take the vitz to the vitz cup to win another vitz (doh)
Ok , for now:
Panoz
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Toyota sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86 Type I)
Silvia K's 1800
Suzki alto works suzuki sports limited
Mini cooper 1.3i
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Mazda Mx-5 Miata 1.8 RS
Honda CRX del sol SiR
(Toyota Vitz RS 1.5)x2

Then win the turbo sports ang get the daihatsu , after that take on the GT world championship , save after the race before the last race and make sure you win the mitsubishi evolution , then take it for the evolution meeting...
Here's the list again:
Panoz
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Toyota sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86 Type I)
Silvia K's 1800
Suzki alto works suzuki sports limited
Mini cooper 1.3i
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Mazda Mx-5 Miata 1.8 RS
Honda CRX del sol SiR
(Toyota Vitz RS 1.5) x2
Daihatsu Mira Tr XX Avantazo R
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution VI GSR
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution IV GSR
Now we move to the amateur league to obtain more cars...
First off the japanese championship i think we might get the fto using the "save trick" because it might be handy for the FF races , not like the Vitz or honda...
Then take the american championship , win the audi TT , get back to beginner and win the TT tourist throphy to win another TT , and win it in the amateur league to get the S4.... Then go to european championship and win the R34 GTR VspecII for the red emblem races...
Then go to GT world championship , win the GT-one road car , and maybe also the racing silvia if you like to...
List:
Panoz
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Toyota sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86 Type I)
Silvia K's 1800
Suzki alto works suzuki sports limited
Mini cooper 1.3i
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Mazda Mx-5 Miata 1.8 RS
Honda CRX del sol SiR
(Toyota Vitz RS 1.5) x2
Daihatsu Mira Tr XX Avantazo R
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution VI GSR
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution IV GSR
Mitsubishi FTO GP version R
(Audi TT)x2
Audi S4
Nissan skyline R34 GTR VspecII
Toyota GT-one road car
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia

Then we have the german touring car challenge , win the cup beetle in there , go back to beginner league and win the Beetle RSI with it... then come TRD celica , Shigeno Trueno , NSX type-s Zero (in boulder opal blue , if you're lucky enough ;) ) and mitsu lancer evo VII from FF,FR,MR and 4WD challenges...
Panoz
Mazda MX-5 Miata LS
Mazda RX8
Nissan Z Concept Car
Aston Martin Vanquish
Dodge Viper GTSR Concept Car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Toyota sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86 Type I)
Silvia K's 1800
Suzki alto works suzuki sports limited
Mini cooper 1.3i
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Mazda Mx-5 Miata 1.8 RS
Honda CRX del sol SiR
(Toyota Vitz RS 1.5) x2
Daihatsu Mira Tr XX Avantazo R
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution VI GSR
Mitsubishi Lancer evolution IV GSR
Mitsubishi FTO GP version R
(Audi TT)x2
Audi S4
Nissan skyline R34 GTR VspecII
Toyota GT-one road car
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia

Then win all the remaining races that you can enter , that way you can do everything besides silver arrow , altezza and type-r meeting....
Go to the pro league and keep winning all the races that any cars can enter with the panoz or souped-ep GT-one road car...
The key now is to win the FF challenge , get the spoon civic and win all the type-r meetings... Win the Zonda race car in all-japan championship , to win the italian avant garde...
Then get the ALtezza LM in Vitz championship and win all of the altezza series ... Get a formula car in the Dream car championship to win the formula series...
Now all we're missing is a TVR tuscan for the tuscan championship , a renault Clio for the clio championship , and any MB.... Go to the super speedway endurance to obtain the clio race car... then win the Clio series...
Then you can go win all the rally races and get the escudo for all golds....
But still you need any MB and a Tuscan to get 100%... It's a shame they could have made it that way so you could get 100% without buying anything... Oh you also get C5R and 787B for Getting 50% and 75%...
Buy a crappy MB and tune it so you win the silver arrow races
Now go buy tuscan , tune the hell out of it , finish the game and get the last F1 car...

It could have been easier and faster to make if you have taken the panoz and won all the racing events in high leagues and then with your super cars win the silly easy races but it's less fun i think
 
Originally posted by youth_cycler
4. Is it possible to complete the game (100%) without buying a single car?

Uh, yeah, but that's a little too hard... by the time you're nearing 50% completion, you should have in excess of several million credits, so there's really no reason why you should avoid buying a car.
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You actually need to buy a mercedes for the Silver Arrow races that I know of for sure. I think everything else you pretty much can win. Now that I think about it, you might win an SLK roadster somewhere... I guess it can be done, just ignore me I am rambling.

Nevermind, I just checked. You win the SLK in the beginner silver arrow race, which you need a mercedes to win. So just a mercedes from what I see needs to be purchased.

Bill-182
 
Originally posted by Bill-182


You actually need to buy a mercedes for the Silver Arrow races that I know of for sure. I think everything else you pretty much can win. Now that I think about it, you might win an SLK roadster somewhere... I guess it can be done, just ignore me I am rambling.

Nevermind, I just checked. You win the SLK in the beginner silver arrow race, which you need a mercedes to win. So just a mercedes from what I see needs to be purchased.

Bill-182

Mercedes and TVR tuscan fot tuscan trophy...
 
Yeah, I went and checked my records... There is no prize car of Mercedes or a Speed 6.... Well, you only have to buy 2 cars to complete the game then :cool:

That is okay I suppose....
 
Has anybody noticed that the S2000 LM has no aspiration type it says -- not NA, Turbo or Supercharger ( I think the Vantage or Vanquish has a supercharger )
 
1. Why is the torque rating messed up? It seems to be about 1/10 of what it should be. Torque (ft/lb) = hp at 5250 rpm right?

I thought that the measuring system was different. In other words, it's not in lb/ft. Maybe Newton Metres?

2. How can you tell the difference between setup-understeer and overpowered-not turning? I have a 900 hp RUF CTR2 that doesn't take corners worth st on the road...fortunately it takes rally tires.

Porsche's take a certain driving style. Try to set it up as best you can and adapt.

5. What is the perfect mileage on a car? My Camaro Race Car is starting to lose hp at 250+ miles, even after an oil change.

When you first get a car, you must "drive it in" and the HP will increase by ~5%. After driving over 250 mi, the HP lowers, but only to a 3% increase over the original HP.
 
Originally posted by gigo
Has anybody noticed that the S2000 LM has no aspiration type it says -- not NA, Turbo or Supercharger ( I think the Vantage or Vanquish has a supercharger )

Vantage= twin-supercharged V8
Vanquish= NA V12
 
Originally posted by I Dont Want Friends
I LOVE the explanation para! I actually really enjoyed the excitment to see if it could be done! This is not sarcasm either i am being genuine. :D :D

THX it's a bit long and annoying IMO , but thanks anyway... I actually completed the game 2 times , i have to try to DO what i wrote... And why i completed the game 2 times? I have had the japanese version just after the realese , kept playing , got to around 95% because i didn't want to run some of the races , got my PAL version , but then it came the saves ain't compatible , so i finished the japanese one and started over with the Pal ver.
 
You can win the CLK Touring Car from somewhere to do the Legend of Silver Arrow races, if its eligible (unless the only place to win it from is from the Legend of Silver Arrow races :rolleyes: )
 
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