Sony Pulled a Microsoft!

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AUGUST 30, 2002 SONY has delayed the local introduction of its online game service as it strives to find a workable business model.

The video game giant introduced its online service in North America earlier this week, but will not announce its plans for the PAL territories, including Australia, until October.

The service, which allows PlayStation 2 owners to play multi-player games over the internet, will compete with Microsoft's Xbox Live service for Xbox owners.

While Sony is offering the service for both dial-up and broadband customers in North America, it has committed to a broadband-only model in the PAL territories.

Sony Computer Entertainment Australia managing director Michael Ephraim said the introduction of the service was not delayed for technical problems, but to find a better solution for Sony, its business partners and its customers.

The PAL territories included dozens of different countries with different levels of broadband and PS2 penetration.

"Australia has a fairly high uptake of broadband," Mr Ephraim said. "It's not leading the pack, but it's not at the bottom of the pack. My opinion is that Australia will be one of the territories connected earlier in the piece."

Mr Ephraim said Australia had particular challenges with its large and sparsely populated land mass and the prevalence of volume-based pricing plans.

"The perception is that broadband costs are high and online gaming is data intensive," he said. "We're in discussions with different ISPs about a time-based charge and a different billing structure to make it more appealing to consumers."

Mr Ephraim said Sony would spurn the centralised approach taken by Microsoft with Xbox Live.

He ruled out an exclusive relationship with a single ISP or peer-to-peer gaming, but said there were many details yet to be determined.

For example, the company had not decided whether to run the infrastructure or allow ISPs to host the games on their own server farms - and whether there would be dedicated servers for Australia or not.

"We do not anticipate just one service choice for consumers under one name," Mr Ephraim said. "There will be many service choices and the business model of Sony will be very open."

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe planned to charge a "modest" subscription fee for the service, but Mr Ephraim was not certain whether that would be levied in Australia.

"Every country is looking at the cost factor based on local broadband costs and the local culture of what people are willing to pay," he said. "You have to give a service that's affordable and it's an issue we're still working through (in Australia)."

It would be "nice" to be first to market but it was important to make sure the offer "made sense" for consumers and partners.

He promised more details in October.
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It's Broadband only! And they're charging you every month!!!! :rotfl: :lol:
 
That would be for the Sony model - Sony are encouraging third party developers to run their own on-line PS2 stuff, and for them to charge as they see fit.

Australia is shifting to an ADSL model rather than a cable model. There was a very interesting article in the Australian Financial Review regarding the possibility of Australian Pay TV moving to ADSL rather than cable, meaning that Telstra no longer need to lay thousands of miles of cable, they just need to upgrade exchanges, which is far cheaper and logistically much cheaper.

I'm not holding my breath - I'm probably more inclined to run on-line on the grunter PC rather than the PS2.
 
Excuse me Genocide, but isn't XBox broadband only as well? Atleast PS2 has an option of dial-up or broadband. XBox Live will charge $49.99 for its "Starter Kit" including 12 months of "Live" service, not including your ISP charge. Then you must pay $9.99 after the 12 months is up. Don't say Sony is charging every month, Microsoft is charging every month, not Sony. In some countries, like Austrailia, they charge you by the minute for being online. In this case, XBox would be the worse system to have in these countries.

I agree with vat_man. Sony is being very open to developers. Each developer can set their own ways of bringing they're game online. As history has told us, using a centralized system with the console makers taking the full burden of having it's own servers has always failed. Dreamcast failed with its network, XBox might as well, but again, it IS Microsoft were talking here.

I know more about XBox then you Genocide and I don't particularly care for XBox. Facts, not propaganda.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
Excuse me Genocide, but isn't XBox broadband only as well? Atleast PS2 has an option of dial-up or broadband. XBox Live will charge $49.99 for its "Starter Kit" including 12 months of "Live" service, not including your ISP charge. Then you must pay $9.99 after the 12 months is up. Don't say Sony is charging every month, Microsoft is charging every month, not Sony. In some countries, like Austrailia, they charge you by the minute for being online. In this case, XBox would be the worse system to have in these countries.

I agree with vat_man. Sony is being very open to developers. Each developer can set their own ways of bringing they're game online. As history has told us, using a centralized system with the console makers taking the full burden of having it's own servers has always failed. Dreamcast failed with its network, XBox might as well, but again, it IS Microsoft were talking here.

I know more about XBox then you Genocide and I don't particularly care for XBox. Facts, not propaganda.

How would Xbox be the worst system to have in the regions with PAL systems? Both PS2 and Xbox are broadband only. So the ISP's charging by the minute shouldn't matter... unless you're implying that you would lose interest in PS2 faster than you would in Xbox games. Which I'm pretty sure you're not.

Yes... Microsoft is charging per month and as of now... so is sony.

You didn't have to get all *****y and act like you're better than everyone else... damn... what an ass. :rolleyes:
 
XBox would be worse because since it is broadband only, most European countries do not have broadband access, either it is too expensive or it simply doesn't exist. PS2 is not broadband only, you can hook up your dial-up or broadband connection. Sony is not charging per month because they do not have a service. Sony is supplying only the Network Adapter, that's it. Developers must come up with a way to bring their game online.

Facts, not propaganda.
 
"While Sony is offering the service for both dial-up and broadband customers in North America, it has committed to a broadband-only model in the PAL territories."

If you thought the author of the article was mis-informed... you should've said something.

According to the Australian IT. PS2 is Broadband only for the PAL regions, so, no 56k option.
 
Hey, GT Hero79. You live in Fresno? I live in Merced! You must know how ****ty it is in Merced. :lol:

If PS2 is going to be broadband only in PAL territories then it is no worse than XBox. The article is probably wrong, they have no real facts, just if's and maybe's.
 
Originally posted by Genocide
[BAccording to the Australian IT. PS2 is Broadband only for the PAL regions, so, no 56k option. [/B]

I can confirm that - PS2 will be broadband (cable and ADSL) only in Australia - still no release date though.
 
Is not Australia in the PAL structure? Going broadband is understandable but as yet, I think the technology is still premature. Although, I want to switch over to broadband.

If I understand correctly, there are three regional infrastructure systems for electronics, viz., NTSC, PAL and I forget the third. Each system has its own limitations and problems.
 
SECAM is the third allthough not as wide spread as the others only France, Finland, and parts of africa use this format...
 
The problem I see with Playstation online is the fact that you need to subscribe for every game you want to play. This means more exspese, you may also need to buy a hdd kit for game downloads. I can't see the PSO working out as good as what the Xbox's has but their is no doubt that it will be huge
 
I just can't understand these people that go out and buy a xbox go online with it just to play games

And i bet 90% have a decent PC that can do the job equally as good if not better

It's all just a big waste of space to me
 

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