Sony's at it again.

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Sony's legal team argue that third party cosmetic enhancements are infringing on their IP causing one such producer to halt shipping or be sued.It seems every 10 years Sony like to put their foot in it then throw a corporate sized tantrum while on the phone to their lawyers.2010 saw them sue a very bright 17 year old,Send U.S Marshals to arrest him on a family holiday cause he was curious.Sony's image copped a battering and then the hackers showed up which lead to 6 weeks on PSN being down while being rebuilt.Sony's removal of a advertised feature started the whole "ownership" debate which imo lead to the right to repair movement who are constantly before the courts.
If you told a bunch of lawyers that they couldn't put the rims of their choice on their BMW's.
 
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tunaphis
Sony's legal team argue that third party cosmetic enhancements are infringing on their IP causing one such producer to halt shipping or be sued.It seems every 10 years Sony like to put their foot in it then throw a corporate sized tantrum while on the phone to their lawyers.2010 saw them sue a very bright 17 year old,Send U.S Marshals to arrest him on a family holiday cause he was curious.Sony's image copped a battering and then the hackers showed up which lead to 6 weeks on PSN being down while being rebuilt.Sony's removal of a advertised feature started the whole "ownership" debate which imo lead to the right to repair movement who are constantly before the courts.
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It didn't start the ownership debate, maybe to you it did but you'd be wrong. There is a entire line of Unix based open source operating systems for computers, that exist to give "freedom" to users that can't legally or easily alter Windows and Apple operating systems. Again only the makers own licensed software, we just lease and use it as intended. We can alter it sure, but doing so typically voids further application,or beyond.

If you actually go back and read what the user did, and why Sony legally enacted IP/copyright maybe, just maybe you'd see reality.

This time around it is even more blatant copyright infringement and thus legally fair to shut it down.

If you told a bunch of lawyers that they couldn't put the rims of their choice on their BMW's.
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Okay...this is a statement, that says nothing other than some dictation was this suppose to add to your argument?
 
Maybe the Simpsons will prove you wrong,Wouldn't be the first time.
My point was about consoles not open source OS's mate.
And really the Chinese will be all over this and will Sony respond?
I could send you a remedial copy of the OP in big font should you require.
 
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I don't see an issue here, a 3rd party was replicataing a copyrighted component of the PS5 without a license from Sony for doing so. None event. The company were chancing it that they could make a quick profit and go under the radar IMO.

tunaphis
And really the Chinese will be all over this and will Sony respond?
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China is a poor comparison.

China has long been a hotbed for copyright breaches but most legal teams couldn't touch them because China as a nation does not regulate copyright and IP registration in practice and therefore it takes considerably more effort to enforce copyright in China than in say the UK or US.
 
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tunaphis
If you told a bunch of lawyers that they couldn't put the rims of their choice on their BMW's.
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Not a valid analogy.

A valid analogy would be selling rims that looked identical to BMW rims, but in a different colour, and in that case, I can 100% assure you that BMW would throw lawyers at it very quickly indeed.

Make a new 'wing' for the PS5 that looks different to the Sony stock item and they will not be able to touch you (that's putting a different rim on a BMW), make an identical one that only differs in colour and you are infringing on IP.

Dave A
I don't see an issue here, a 3rd party was replicataing a copyrighted component of the PS5 without a license from Sony for doing so. None event. The company were chancing it that they could make a quick profit and go under the radar IMO.

China is a poor comparison.

China has long been a hotbed for copyright breaches but most legal teams couldn't touch them because China as a nation does not regulate copyright and IP registration in practice and therefore it takes considerably more effort to enforce copyright in China than in say the UK or US.
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And even that doesn't stop non-Chinese companies trying, as they do try and engage with the Chinese government on a regular basis, I know of a number of attempts that have been leggally made over guitar copies and fakes.
 
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tunaphis
I could send you a remedial copy of the OP in big font should you require.
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Would that help explain what these non-words mean?
tunaphis
Sony'sge ... Sony'soval
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If Sony has trademarked these items and another company is copying them without a licence to do so, what's the problem with Sony using legal means to stop them?
 
Dave A
I don't see an issue here, a 3rd party was replicataing a copyrighted component of the PS5 without a license from Sony for doing so. None event. The company were chancing it that they could make a quick profit and go under the radar IMO.

China is a poor comparison.

China has long been a hotbed for copyright breaches but most legal teams couldn't touch them because China as a nation does not regulate copyright and IP registration in practice and therefore it takes considerably more effort to enforce copyright in China than in say the UK or US.
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In that case, faceplate should simply alter their design.
 
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In that case, faceplate should simply alter their design.
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They had that option, but decided altering it enough to avoid copyright would have been too much of an expense and difficulty.
 
As i understand it, their design was only a concept anyway.

They were selling only a pre-order of a 'product' they can't actually make until they get their hands on an actual PS5 and see exactly what the face plates consist of.
 
I was sad to hear they got sued. Question, if one were to copy the plates but not sell them, would that still be copyright infringement? Is it the re-creation of it, or the sale of it that technically would break the law? Always wondered that.


Jerome
 
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I was sad to hear they got sued. Question, if one were to copy the plates but not sell them, would that still be copyright infringement? Is it the re-creation of it, or the sale of it that technically would break the law? Always wondered that.
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Not sure exactly, but i can't imagine it would be anything other than profiting from the copyright infringement that matters to them or the letter of the law as a whole.

Sony will want to make money from selling alternative face plates at some point so will try and stop others from doing so for as long as they can and take as much of that pie for themselves.
 
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I wonder if the dark web will have any for sale :lol:


Jerome
 
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I'll bet there's 3d printer files available to print your own within hours of the console release :mischievous:
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Which also leads me to question how did this company get specs to even start planning/production on these in the first place?
 
Yellowbeard
I'll bet there's 3d printer files available to print your own within hours of the console release :mischievous:
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It's too big for regular at home printers : /

ImaRobot
Which also leads me to question how did this company get specs to even start planning/production on these in the first place?
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They were just planning on starting to build the file day 1 and ship out asap.


Jerome
 
Jump_Ace
It's too big for regular at home printers : /



They were just planning on starting to build the file day 1 and ship out asap.


Jerome
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I don't know how I literally missed the post a few before mine that basically answered my question, but thanks! :lol:
 
Yellowbeard
I'm pretty sure there must be a way to clip or dovetail the parts together after printing.
If anybody creative and clever is reading this, I would love a Han Solo in carbonite cover for one. 💡
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Jerome
 
Jump_Ace
I was sad to hear they got sued. Question, if one were to copy the plates but not sell them, would that still be copyright infringement? Is it the re-creation of it, or the sale of it that technically would break the law? Always wondered that.


Jerome
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I don't think it would be copyright infringement in that case. I would imagine it's like copying an owned CD for personal use, if you copy your own PS5 plates for your own use I doubt it's going to be a problem.
 

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