Spoilers, Wings, ETC.

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Okay, I've been noticing that more and more people have been using wings on their cars, I tried some myself, I tried to thuning, DR sent me a site to help tune your car and stuff better, I got better at the tuning motor and suspension, I need help with the wings, can some one help me and explain what and how to tune on the wings? Thanks -w00t JDM
 
More downforce in the front if you have trouble turning at speeds, more rear if you spin out too fast in high speed drifts. It's really a matter of personal taste and how you like your car to behave.. also, wings have more effect at higher speeds (obviously).

Personally, I don't think they help tremendously but if I have a wing on my FR car (based on looks :P) I try 30F/20R first and tune it from there. MR cars may need more rear etc... (see above)
 
I don't use wings but marjority prob use wings. One more thing wings and spoilers are the same thing I think.
 
nightkids4ever
I don't use wings but marjority prob use wings. One more thing wings and spoilers are the same thing I think.
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well i know that, i'm just saying cause some people use wings or spoilers when they talk, ya know?
 
I only use spoilers if they look good, or come with the car. I usually put them as low as they will go for drifting (grip is the enemy) but if the car feels unbalanced at high speed I will adjust as needed. (see above post)
 
Ya....Ill only put a wing on if it looks ok...some of the high HP cars really drift better with a wing. IMO
 
Are you asking in reference to drifting or just in general?
 
Captain Trips
It's sarcasm. I put a ridiculously huge spoiler on my car to look cool. <That's sarcasm too.
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Sorry, I was talking about the original post.
 
vr6gti72
Actually the car wears it well IMO....but I really am not too picky about it....it all about what you like....
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I was being sarcastic by putting a fatass spoiler on the back of my car but thanks anyway
 
Captain Trips
I was being sarcastic by putting a fatass spoiler on the back of my car but thanks anyway
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I see...but it doesnt look "over the top".....at least its a car that has enough power to "justify" having one.
 
I drift fine without a wing.. and dont notice a difference with a wing... So for me its all based on looks... Generally i ignore them.
 
if you're tuning your car for Drifting, please note that by installing a spoiler or a "wing" to your car won't make much of a difference to your drifts, so I'd say don't bother too much in trying to learn how to "tune" them, they're mostly there for the "looks" only.

I'm referring to Drifting here, so keep that in mind, if its drag or track racing, then that's another different story. :)
 
OK I'll clarify one thing...

Wing: Generally refering to the rear wing of the car.
Spoiler: Front wing

I use wings when drifting mainly to help with turn in, I tuned my elise to drift without one, then put one on and added a bit of front downforce and it helped with turn in on the faster corners...

PLUS, they look sooooooooo HOT on some cars... Like this one...

 
I see wing as neccessity on some car to help out the understeer issues. Like this wing looks horrible on the SSR, but it helps it drift.

 
o0o, i see now...but like u all are saying, for the looks, how would i tune the wing, so it doesn't do anything, just sits there?
 
w00t jdm
o0o, i see now...but like u all are saying, for the looks, how would i tune the wing, so it doesn't do anything, just sits there?
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Maybe I'll take a shot at answering this, and to those that may point out if I'm wrong please don't bite my head off.

Well, less the car in a way already has some extent of downforce on it, usually if you put a wing on say a vette or silvia, the default setting is usually at zero for both the front and rear.

If you choose to actually put that wing to use obvioulsy depends as already stated, I haven't been drifting too much as of late, but well, it seams even though for an M3 CSL where the only mod I did put on it was a wing (namley for just the M power race or whatever in GT mode...), yet I was able to pull off some okay drifts later on although I'm sure thatn usually when you increase downforce, usually when you take a corner at speed, espically since I had max downforce on both the front and rear of the car, it would be harder to actually drift it, yet I did anyway on Infeneon raceway with the M3 on N2s.

< hopefully that will show and that being the right image.

Sometimes wings are put on for just cosmetic purposes, but other cases it's for function, if you want it just for the looks, then it should be fine at it's default setting after just putting which ever wing is on. The only car so far I'm not 100% sure about is the CIEN since when I had put a wing on that to improve it's handing both at high and low speeds, I was able to increase the downforce higher than normal. Looking into some info on the CIEN, it has an active spolier for the rear which adjusts at speed, I'm gussing adding the wing only increased the downforce even more (and made the car on N3's, least to me more of a beast than it already was). But otherwise the additional downforce is just at 0 for the front and rear.

I haven't experimented into drifting far as using aerodyanmics, only so far into driving technique and tuning far as the suspension, brakies, LSD, power, etc, so I can't really say, a pro like Tank Spanker or Swift would prob know though, maybe, you'd have to ask (less I'm missing something...again).

In short, it should be just fine at 0/0 for any car you can put a wing on.

Till later.
 
w00t jdm
o0o, i see now...but like u all are saying, for the looks, how would i tune the wing, so it doesn't do anything, just sits there?
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Are you talking about for drifting?
 
Swift
Are you talking about for drifting?
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He may be referring to driving in general or drifting.

To experiment with this I went out on a couple of laps drifting on Trial Mountain. I tuned the Spoiler to different levels. Nothing much happened. I then grip drove and there was a slight change to the car's handling, but nothing to get a boner over.
 
I heard something else the other day from a friend of mine...

Apparently some drift cars have a shaped rear wing designed to give downforce while going sideways, cus if you think about a wings dynamics they are designed to give downforce going straight @ 0 degree angle, take the to 60 degrees and how much downforce do you have???
 
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Wings greatly improves your lap times in grip racing, though for drifting the speeds are not really high enough to matter all that much, its more personal taste for a drift car as good tuning to the suspension and LSD can dial out understeer and such for drifting.
 
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