Stock A-Spec Seasonal #48 - (450PP, 550PP, 600PP RC - 12/15 to 01/12)

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  1. Hastatus

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    This is a thread series for the seasonal time trials that focuses on completing the challenges (i.e. beating the gold target times) with stock versions of the cars. This means that instead of maximizing your PP with upgrades and focusing on getting the fastest laps on the in-game leaderboard, you are attempting to complete the challenges with the bare minimum amount of 'car' and money-spent as is possible.

    With the new more open ended format means that part of the challenge will be finding a stock car that has the lowest PP or lowest price depending on your view. It is also difficult to predict which types of tires a car will come with before purchasing.

    Warning: Some of these challenges are getting to be extreme and should be approached with caution! :banghead:


    In order to participate your car must be stock.

    1) A stock car is essentially any car as it is when purchased from the dealership or won as a prize: it will have had no modifications, added parts, or adjustments done that affect how the car performs.
    2) No oil changes are permitted: if you have had an oil change you must wait until the effects of the HP boost have been removed by driving over 300 km.
    3) You must use the original tire type that came with the car, unless dirt or snow tires are required.
    4) No changes to any “Car Settings” are permitted: they must ALL be left at their default values. [Note: cars that come with Fully Customizable Suspension that were purchased or won prior to patch 1.11 must have the suspension settings restored to default in order to be updated with the new stock suspension settings.]
    5) No SRF or ASM is permitted: other “Driver Assists” are permitted.


    Basically, the ONLY changes you may make to a car include: painting the car and changing a car’s racing number. Any other changes means your car is not stock.


    Stock A-Spec Seasonals #48:

    Beginner Level Non-Race Car Challenge: Tsukuba - 450 PP - SH
    Intermediate Level Non-Race Car Challenge: Silverstone Grand Prix - 550 PP - SH
    Expert Level Race Car Challenge: Nurburgring Nordschleife - 600 PP - RH


    Repeat of Stock A-Spec Seasonal #5
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
  2. Hastatus

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    Last time the records were:
    Beginner - 347PP Lup GTi '01 (nowayback)
    Intermediate - 378PP Roadster 1800 RS (NB) '00 (MadMax)
    Expert - 562PP Ford GT40 Race Car '69 (nowayback)


    My results so far with a wheel and an automatic transmission:

    450PP at Tsukuba:
    373PP
    - 1:12.516 - 5:16.205 - Toyota 2000GT '67 - CS - FR - 153hp - 1120kg - IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi - 5:16.675

    5500PP at Silverstone Grand Prix:
    413PP
    - 2:30.185 - 13:06.228 - Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 - SH - MR - 191hp - 1080kg - Gallardo LP 560-4 '08 - 13:06.404

    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    562PP
    - 6:47.231 - 7:31.447 - Ford GT40 Race Car '69 - RH - MR - 493hp - 998kg - Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) #51 - 7:32.300

    I didn't spend too much time on the Beginner and Intermediate Races, though I did cut down a lot of the cars used last time: I think there are two cars for each race that did better than the two I used today. I spent most of my time on Expert Race. Took a while but I finally managed to finally match the best car from last time at The Ring. You must be close enough to the rabbit to draft on the straight. :D
     
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  3. StirlingMoose

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    450PP at Tsukuba:
    402PP
    - - 5:23.169 - Mercedes Benz 300 SL Coupe ’54 - CS - FR - 212hp - 1295kg - NSX ’90 - 5:23.568
    Cruised it. Beaut of a car.

    550PP at Silverstone Grand Prix:
    518PP - - 12.42.025 - AC 427 S/C ‘66 - SH - FR - 478hp - 1311kg - Gallardo LP 560-4 ’08 - 12.42.879

    With 260 miles on the clock from the last one, and no wins, I thought the old girl deserved a moment of glory. Easy first try win, despite sliding about all over the place.
     
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  4. lfm58

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    450PP at Tsukuba:
    399PP
    - 01:10.091 - 05:07.722 - Renault Clio R.S. 2.0 16V '02 - CS - FF - Lotus Elise 111R '04 - 05:07.194

    550PP at Silverstone Grand Prix:
    496PP
    - 02:25.253 - 12:42.557 - BMW M3 Coupè Chrome Line - SH - FR - Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07 - 12:43.353

    My Beg/Int Golds. I like to drive this Clio model and for Chrome I was curious since I never driven it.
     
  5. lfm58

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    Well here my Exp Gold:

    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    597PP
    - 6:44.145 - 7:28.311 - Nissan GT-R GT500 Stealth Model - RH - FR - 552cv - 1050kg - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) LM Race Car '06 - 7:29.887

    Great Handling but stock gears not fitting Nordschleife needs.
    Lap with small mistakes here and there. Therefore a net lap time less than 6:40 is feasible...but it is time for lunch now.

    Ciao
     
  6. BWM

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    All NSX this time.

    5500PP at Silverstone Grand Prix:
    449PP
    - 2:30.116 - 13:02.911 - Honda NSX '01 - CS - MR - 276hp - 1340kg - 430 Scuderia '07 - 13:02.922



    AI love dive bombing in the last braking zone.

    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    560PP
    - 6:48.823 - 7:33.039 - Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car - RH - MR - 511hp - 1120kg - Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) #91 - 7:33.172




    And please forgive me

    450PP at Tsukuba:
    449PP
    - 1:11.000 - 5:09.599 - Honda NSX '01 - CS - MR - 276hp - 1340kg - NSX '01 - 5:10.208

    Got a bit bored running on Tsukuba and NSX is overkill for 450pp so did something different.
    Tried to slide as much in corners.

     
  7. StirlingMoose

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    I went off to the ring, with the 330 P4 naturally, and was having great fun. On about the third race I passed the F1 on the last straight, with a good tow, and was well ahead coming up to the sharp right-hander, where he rear-ended me and put me in the barrier. I was not braking early. All too stressful, so I went back to Tsukuba for a bit of relaxation.

    450PP at Tsukuba:
    362PP
    - ??? - 5:21.138 - BMW 507 '57 - CS - FR - 147hp - 1240kg - efini RX-7 Type RZ '96 - 5:21.394

    Had to go grid-hunting. It's a lovely car but not greatly suited to this track. It's more at home somewhere like Brands, with long sweeping bends where you can get some old-fashioned four-wheel drift action going. It's not a great turner though. Understeers horribly under braking so getting it round the hairpins is tricky. It's like driving with abs 0.

    So from a car which doesn't like turning to one which needs no encouragement.

    359PP - ??? - 5:22.976 - Alpine A310 1600VE '73 - CS - RR - 123hp - 930kg - RX-7 Type RS-R '97 - 5:23.976

    @BWM You are forgiven. Very entertaining and outstanding drifting skills.


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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    591PP
    - ??? - 7:32.756 - Ferrari 330 P4 '67 - RH - MR - 448hp - 792kg - Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) #51 - 7:33.780

    The Viper was a much more civilised opponent.
     
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  8. lfm58

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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    591PP
    - 6:49.192 - 7:33.858 - Nissan Xanavi NISMO Z '06 - RH - FR - 516cv - 1100kg - Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car - 7:35.233
    582PP - 6:51.121 - 7:35.904 - Toyota Castrol TOM'S Supra '97 - RH - FR - 499cv - 1150kg - Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car - 7:36.925

    We have driven the Castrol Supra in all the GT Series games and it is always a trustable car.
    Thanks to a friendly competitors grid I got 1st place quite soon but Camaro never give up until the last chicane... funny!

    450PP at Tsukuba:
    386PP
    - 01:11.595 - 05:10.971 - Ford Focus ST170 '03 - CS - FF - 173cv - 1240kg - Honda NSX '01 - 05:11.171
    357PP - 01:12.345 - 05:17.396 - Peugeot 106 S16 '03 - CS - FF - 118cv - 960kg - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI Version... - 05:18.059
    350PP - 01:13.924 - 05:21.891 - Suzuki Swift Sport '07 - CS - FF - 125cv - 1060kg - Honda NSX '01 - 05:22.058

    Focus just to get practice.
    Some days ago I discovered the 106 at Brand Hatch Indy and it can be confirmed very competitive at this level with 2x winning races.
    350pp Swift has been so many time close to get Gold at Brand Hatch Indy and then I tried it here at Tsukuba...with success after 3x races.

    Ciao
     
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  9. coryclifford

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    Slow corners are not the NSX's strong suit. Thankfully, there's only a few.

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    560 PP. Thanks for the inspiration @BWM
     
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  10. StirlingMoose

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    450PP at Tsukuba:
    338PP
    - ??? - 5:22.880 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63 - CS - FR - 112hp - 950kg - efini RX-7 Type RZ '96 - 5:23.002

    Time to bring out the not-so-secret weapon. This car is just about perfect.
     
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    I knew you'd go there. :tup:
     
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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    552PP
    - 6:51.590 - 7:36.206 - Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car - RH - 4WD - 429cv - 980kg - Nissan Xanavi NISMO Z '06 - 7:37.176

    Quite challenging but the 4WD FTO is friendly with my PS3 controller driving.
    At the end of the story I did more than 10x race to get Gold here, good time for break now.
     
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    Tried a few times with the FTO. It's pretty sweet! Haven't won yet but I've gotten faster times than you @lfm58 but can only pull off a P2. This event has all kinds off oddities what with where they place the other cars.
     
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    @coryclifford

    I'm aware you are faster. Anyway Gold FTO is a good challenge for you too.
    FYI my best net race time was very low 6:49 but facing 618-620pp competitors as Pagani and so on.

    I'm driving 80s 4WD gr4 rally car now. They have pp less than 550 but with sweet driving as FTO... too funny!
     
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  15. StirlingMoose

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    So am I. No luck yet though.
     
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    Great suggestion @lfm58 !

    You can kick the car's butt and it wants more. I'd say it's almost a cheater car it's so easy to go fast in. Awesome :tup:

    Totally clean lap too. :cheers:
     
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    @coryclifford great score!

    We are on the same page about FTO, it's the "no limits" car even if too much stable and griping vs real gt cars.

    Anyway let's go ahead with more challenging cars...
     
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  18. StirlingMoose

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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    543PP
    - - 7:40.611 - Audi Quattro S1 Rally Car '86 - RH - 4WD - 469hp - 1090kg - Corvette C5-R (C5) '00 - 7:40.720

    That wasn't easy. First had to find a rabbit that wasn't consistently 10s+ faster than me, then work out a winning strategy.
    I tried staying behind and drafting down the whole last straight, but even with a tow the Audi tops out at just over 160mph, so he pulled away. I tried drafting for a good over-speed and passing him part way down the straight but he soon caught up and re-passed. In the end I won by getting far enough ahead that they didn't catch me till the end of the straight. It was side by side with Corvette all the way to the sharp right-hander where I just out-braked him and he dropped in behind. I left him room and to his credit he didn't try to push me off. It definitely pays off to race cleanly against the AI. If you've barged your way to the front they will take their revenge with their super powers.
     
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    @StirlingMoose

    Thanks for the tip. Sorry to say, I did it first try.

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    Saw the same Corvette you had and was like, oh sweet! Got by him just before the mini Karousel, and just floored it. He went around me, then I out broke him at the right.
     
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    Just for statistics here is my score with S1:

    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    543PP - 6:54.226 - 7:38.792 - Audi quattro S1 Rally Car '86 - RH - 4WD - 476cv - 1090kg - Chevrolet Camaro SS Touring Car '10 - 7:39.651

    My best time has been 7:32.073 during a painful race against R35 TC, Vipers etc in which, with 2.5sec at the beginning of final long Rottingen straight, I lost just for 0.108 in a very hot final... pity.

    As Italain, before S1, I did a lot of races with Delta S4 that is much more difficult to be driven with PS3 controller due to the light weight and its distribution. Let me say fine drifting practice for wheel driver.

    Well, what about the next challenge: again rally GR.B? Cobra? 90S DTM?
     
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    I'm in the Ford RS200. Its top speed of 157 mph makes it a bit tough.
     
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    That's not unexpected. :lol: It sounds like you got exactly the same race as me. Funny thing is with the same line-up I had some very different results. Not always the Corvette as rabbit. In one race it was the Merc which just shot away and I didn't get anywhere near him. Other times he was well down the field.

    I've had that one too.

    I've learnt my lesson now. In these cars with a low top speed you've got to be ahead by the mini Karousel to be in with a chance.
     
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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    532PP - - 7:45.064 - Mini Clubman VGT - RH - 4WD - 388hp - 1050kg - XANAVI NISMO GT-R '03 - 7:45.241

    It's not often you'll find me driving a modern race car let alone an imaginary one, but this is one of the few VGTs I have any time for. It's not very powerful but it handles nicely here and it has 6 gears so can get up to 170mph+ with a tow. Passed the GT-R right at the end. The R8 LMS which had been the rabbit in previous races was miles back.
     
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    This took me hours to win.

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    And what a wicked car it is. The 125 ride height really helps it take curbs well. Many different fields tried. Finally nailed it. :tup:
     
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    And in less than an hour I won in the 523 pp Calibra Touring Car '94

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    I was half expecting the "Did it first try" but that's the way it goes sometimes. It's a really fun car isn't it.

    Well done!

    Did you give up on the RS200? I've not tried it yet and I don't want to waste my time if it's a no-hoper.
     
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    :tup:

    I guess I gave up on it. I'm working on a Mitsu Evo IX GSR Touring '05. I think it can happen.
     
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  28. StirlingMoose

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    600PP RC at Nurburgring Nordschleife:
    535PP
    - - 7:47.802 - Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64 - RH - FR - 384hp - 1043kg - IS F Touring Car '07 - 7:48.966
    :D Proper fun. Took a few goes but it's never a chore driving this car.

    I had a try in the Acura NSX LM Race Car '91 @515PP but I didn't really get anywhere. Not my cup of tea, too much grip for the amount of power, so you spend a lot of time just steering going flat-out, and when you do manage to push it to the edge it's very snappy.
    I checked the history book and mcsqueegy used it before, but on the 24h circuit so can't compare the times. However he was only 1s slower than MadMax in the Shelby Cobra, so in theory it should be possible to do it, if you're as fast as mcsqueegy.
     
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    I'm about ready to give up with the 517 pp Mitsu. I cannot get any faster than a 7:47 no matter what. P2 is no problem but I'm still ~4-5 secs back from P1, no matter the line up, and I've tried a ton. Car sounds great, handles pretty good. Has some weird yaw control thing that sounds like it's cutting power. Cool car though, for a Mitsubishi.

    I've tried that NSX. That snappy action you mentioned was annoying. Might as well try it again for a bit.
     
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    @StirlingMoose

    Doable after all. Just needed to go faster. :D

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    Odd line up too. Wish it would show up for the Mitsu.
     
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