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Hi,

I searched the forum for it,
but I haven't found an answer yet...
So I'll put the question here:

Does anybody of you guys know what tires in GT5P are closest to stock tires? Cause I just like to know what's the most realistic to get a better view at the handling of the cars in reality...

Thank you!
Zim
 
Zimmerd
Hi,

I searched the forum for it,
but I haven't found an answer yet...
So I'll put the question here:

Does anybody of you guys know what tires in GT5P are closest to stock tires? Cause I just like to know what's the most realistic to get a better view at the handling of the cars in reality...

Thank you!
Zim
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Check the in game user manual, theres a list in there with what tires are closest to the real thing for each car.... its in one of the threads on this forum as well... dont remember where though
 
Blitz187
Check the in game user manual, theres a list in there with what tires are closest to the real thing for each car.... its in one of the threads on this forum as well... dont remember where though
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Thank you, I will do!
 
Blitz187
and I believe S2s are equal to fresh stock tires if im not mistaken...
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Only on a couple cars, most cars fresh tyres are N3-S1.


As I have said a few times before I hope GT5 comes with a standard factory tyre, or atleast have the option to fit the car with 'original' tyres.
 
Depends on the car! There is a list around somewhere, might be the old physics though! Search abit harder and youll find it ;)
 
RAVELLRON
but why they invented N1?????? wich type of tire is it???? if it isn't stock tire....
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Perhaps the tyres designed for fuel economy rather than grip - the kind of thing they fit to a Prius or the VW BlueMotion models.
 
N3s are tires for normal cars in GT5P game (for most, car like Suzuki, the old model, N2s).. For sports cars S1s and for super sports cars S2s.

But there is a manual. It bassically says N3s to S1s


For the F2007 car its the N1 tire setup.
 
flubbachany
But wouldn't the manual now be outdated due to the numerous updates to the physics?
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This is what I've been thinking about, August 1st the update increased the grip on S tyres but apparently left N tyres alone, which would cause a bigger grip gap between cars in the manual recomended to use S tyres. I checked the manual to see if they made any adjustments to the list and they havent.


This is another reason 'original/factory/standard' tyre choice should be an option IMO.
 
I wish they wouldnt use the N and S system... they have the sponsorshipfrom most tyre manufactures, why not use real tyre models, i know there are lots but simplify it.... and same for S compounds should be real semi slick like A048 or R888 in different compounds.... that would be realistic...
 
I have to leave for work now, or I would do this myself.
A little research can tell you what tires the Zo6 uses and what lateral g's it can pull. Use the default set and only change the tires. Run a lap or 2 at Fuji or HSR on each tire and note the g meter. It may not be 100%, but it could give you an idea of which tire comes closest to stock.
 
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flubbachany
But wouldn't the manual now be outdated due to the numerous updates to the physics?
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The list in the Online manual updates each time they update everything.. They even mention it on their website.

And This game does not uses tire wear, but it uses Tire heat up and as well if you drive into gravel, for few corners tires will be bit slippery.

With Tire Heat up just drive over 1 lap to heat them up, you will notice a lot grip differances. I think Best way to see the diferances is when you have ABS set to 0 and just lower brake bias a bit for front tires. In first lap tires may lock up when u fully apply brake pressure, after another lap tire's won't luck up, but all depends. THat is why everyone wonders why you can not do a perfect FAST LAP on first lap.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
N3s are tires for normal cars in GT5P game (for most, car like Suzuki, the old model, N2s).. For sports cars S1s and for super sports cars S2s.
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I think that's pretty accurate. For instance, PD lists S1 for the 350z as stock and S2 for a completely fresh, brand new tyre. In real life, the 350z stock tyres are Bridgestone Potenza RE050's. So based on that, S2 compares to a brand new Bridgestone Potenza RE050 and S1 compares to a slightly used one.

mr_VOLCANO
s2 is way to grippy.. I would say N2-N3.
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Well, the sticky feel is very similar to how it fealt when I slammed a set of new RE050's under my Z. I think it's pretty accurate. Might be different for other cars though.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
The list in the Online manual updates each time they update everything..
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No, they don't.

I have checked the list before and after S tyres got a grip boost and they did not change any of the recomended tyres, all they did was add the new cars available (Oct 3rd).
 
I think that the list is accurate but the physics changes
have made it closer to what it was meant to be.
Remember the Ferrari F2007 is meant to have N1's and its still
very fast because there is so much downforce and tyre.
 
VIPERGTSR01
No, they don't.

I have checked the list before and after S tyres got a grip boost and they did not change any of the recomended tyres, all they did was add the new cars available (Oct 3rd).
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They changed physics, the grips they recommend is closes to real life you can get.. But they did mention they will change it in manual or UPDATE the list.. haha, I guess they did not since its closets to real life lol.
 
if anyone wants the true driving experience of a stock car with O.E.M tires i have ben doing some research on about every tire i could find i have wrote them all out on paper and then did my best to convert them. For example, nissian fairlady z version s O.E.M tire is a bridgestone potenza RE050A. with this i used the survey rating on this tire which got 88 for conering ablity,89 for traction, and a 88 for steering responsive. so i divided it by 3 and got 88 thats about a B+. my grading system goes like this

A++(100 and up) = R tires
A+ (99-97) = S3 tires ( also with added tire width ETC)
A (96-95) = S2 tires ( also with added tire width ETC)
A- (95) = S1 tires
B+ (94-87) = N3 tires
B/C+(86-77) = N2 tires
C (76-v) = N1 tires

So you could see the Fairlady Z version s has a tire rating of 88 which would give it N3 tires which IMO is pretty acurate. Another example would be the, nissan GT-R nur spec II O.E.M tire is Bridgestone potenza RE040 which got 76 conering stability, 80 traction, 77 for steering response. the final tire number comes out to (77)N2 tire. i have the whole tire list for every stock car in GTP i will post them later. im not saying this way i run my stock cars are right but it gives me a pretty good base peace...
 
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I don't think a Bridgestone Potenza RE040 is an N1 tyre. N1/N3's are what comes standard on cars like the VW GTI, Suzuka Swift Sport and other 'normal' cars. And those cars come on way crappier tyres than the RE040. The RE040 is more of an S1, the RE050 more of an S2. N1/N3 are your run-of-the-mill non-sports tyres.
 
yea i thought the same also but after doing reseach i still feel they are N2 tires. after reading many reviews and the survey number the RE040 are not the greatest of tires let me compare the audi R8 tire. Audi R8 tire is a pirelli PZero or a Michelin pilot sport PS2 which got a rating of 93 while the RE040 got 77 rating. PZero is a max performance tire while RE040 are ulrta performance. if i made RE040 S1 what would you make PZero S3 i think that is way to grippy for OEM tires, however im doing more calculation and im thinking of making the RE040 N2 but thats the highest i would go.
 
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JDMKING13
if anyone wants the true driving experience of a stock car with O.E.M tires i have ben doing some research on about every tire i could find i have wrote them all out on paper and then did my best to convert them. For example, nissian fairlady z version s O.E.M tire is a bridgestone potenza RE050A. with this i used the survey rating on this tire which got 88 for conering ablity,89 for traction, and a 88 for steering responsive. so i divided it by 3 and got 88 thats about a B+.
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What is the survey data you're using? If it's a survey of people's opinions I'm not sure you can reliably convert it directly to grip. The survey numbers will have people's expectations, biases and the handling of the cars they are fitted to mixed in with the actual, objective tyre performance.

As a contrived example, people driving an Evo X would be likely to rate tyre A higher than people using tyre A on a Volvo, because the Evo X makes such incredible use of the available grip. If tyre A is mostly fitted to Evos and tyre B mostly fitted to Volvos then tyre A would have a higher survey rating, even if tyre B actually performed better.

Psychology plays a role too, a Pirelli or Bridgestone would likely get a higher rating than an identically performing Hankook tyre.
 
Because they might compare SPORTS tires with other SPORTS tires.. just because they give it a LOW score does not mean it will be N1 or N2. Because it's still a Sports tire but not as good as other ones.. But way better then the cars that Suzuki or Hyundai comes with. N1s N2s
 

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