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Today, I was running the 'Ring for some cash to buy some of the cars on the OCD, and I ran the Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98 for the first time.

This thing sounds like an old prop driven airplane getting ready to take off! At least at low speeds, just for the sound, not one of my favorites.

I then changed to the McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 (one of my favorites), and I had turned down the music level to 10% or so, to hear the tire sounds a little better, to work on my racing lines.

I started to hear a metallic banging sound, like the sound my real-life car makes before something falls off!

After some experimentation, it turns out it was the music track, sounding like someone playing the snare drum or cymbals! If I catch that music track again, I may be forced to turn the music off, or use my own playlist! :sly:
 
Drive the stock Lotus Esprite 350.
The exhaust is not a V8. I tried the sport exhaust => get´s even worse. After I installed the semi-Racing exhaust I liked the sound.

Same for the Standard Jaguar XKR´s (both) -_-
But PD did great with the Jaguar S-Type R 👍 Nice note and the Superchargerwhine is hearable.
 
haha I love the sound of the Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98, I need to turn the buttkicker down a bit though.
 
I'm struggling to find the purpose of this thread. :confused:
There's no question, nor is there any lesson to be learned.
 
Today, I was running the 'Ring for some cash to buy some of the cars on the OCD, and I ran the Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98 for the first time.

This thing sounds like an old prop driven airplane getting ready to take off! At least at low speeds, just for the sound, not one of my favorites.

I then changed to the McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 (one of my favorites), and I had turned down the music level to 10% or so, to hear the tire sounds a little better, to work on my racing lines.

I started to hear a metallic banging sound, like the sound my real-life car makes before something falls off!

After some experimentation, it turns out it was the music track, sounding like someone playing the snare drum or cymbals! If I catch that music track again, I may be forced to turn the music off, or use my own playlist! :sly:


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Do this, RACE MUSIC OFF, Small Theatre, all Effects at 120. If i really wanna hear music ill listen to ipod thru separate speakers, but In game music just ruins the dynamics and experience.
 
Actually 2 days ago i drove the Audi TT touring car and i noticed strange un-car like sounds also.
When you go high in the refs it sounds like theres this electrical current cracking, and also like there's a african tribe playing the drums in the distance (this jungle-like sound).

I don't race with music and i race with the small theatre config.
Everyone has those same strange noises when driving that car i wonder?

(i'm not jerking around here, just tried again and it comes with the car each time).
 
Jungle Drums? I'll give the Audi a spin later and see if I hear them too.

Before I turn off the in-game music that is...
 
Actually 2 days ago i drove the Audi TT touring car and i noticed strange un-car like sounds also.
When you go high in the refs it sounds like theres this electrical current cracking, and also like there's a african tribe playing the drums in the distance (this jungle-like sound).

I don't race with music and i race with the small theatre config.
Everyone has those same strange noises when driving that car i wonder?

(i'm not jerking around here, just tried again and it comes with the car each time).

Jungle Drums? I'll give the Audi a spin later and see if I hear them too.

Before I turn off the in-game music that is...

Jungle drums? What on earth do PD use to record their car sounds?
 
Drive the stock Lotus Esprite 350.
The exhaust is not a V8. I tried the sport exhaust => get´s even worse. After I installed the semi-Racing exhaust I liked the sound.

Same for the Standard Jaguar XKR´s (both) -_-
But PD did great with the Jaguar S-Type R 👍 Nice note and the Superchargerwhine is hearable.

Actually, the Esprit in GT5 sounds just like it should. A flat-plane V8 kind of sounds like a huge pissed off 4 cylinder.


Not exactly how it sounds in the game, but it has the same type of 4 cylinderish note. And this IS a V8 Esprit.

However, I think that with the correct modification of the exhaust manifold you could make it sound more like a regular crossplane V8

Oh god, I think I need to change my underwear...
 
The Esperante GTR-1 uses a big Ford V8 with straight exhaust pipes so it sounds just like the absurdly-priced 1969 GT40 Race Car, which is to say, it sounds like crap. It's just what those huge 2-valve pushrod Ford V8s sound like with a straight racing exhaust.

Does anyone remember the Shelby Daytona Coupe from GT2? That thing sounds seriously just dam awful... but I still wish it were in GT5. :)
 
Actually, the Esprit in GT5 sounds just like it should. A flat-plane V8 kind of sounds like a huge pissed off 4 cylinder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOI1WYnuo9Y
Not exactly how it sounds in the game, but it has the same type of 4 cylinderish note. And this IS a V8 Esprit.

However, I think that with the correct modification of the exhaust manifold you could make it sound more like a regular crossplane V8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsafnGRY06I
Oh god, I think I need to change my underwear...

Indeed, the log-type manifolds used (it is a twin turbo, why bother with individual, equal length runners, unless you're Ferrari...) give an old-school lumpiness to the exhaust sounds.

Merge the outputs from the two banks together, like in the second vid, and that lumpiness combines in a way that does have some of the same qualities as a cross-plane V8 (with shorty headers and equal length secondaries feeding an X-pipe, like this), although not exactly.

Note that the MP4-12C exploits this exact setup (log manifolds + merging) to get its exhaust sound.
 
Indeed, the log-type manifolds used (it is a twin turbo, why bother with individual, equal length runners, unless you're Ferrari...) give an old-school lumpiness to the exhaust sounds.

Merge the outputs from the two banks together, like in the second vid, and that lumpiness combines in a way that does have some of the same qualities as a cross-plane V8 (with shorty headers and equal length secondaries feeding an X-pipe, like this), although not exactly.

Note that the MP4-12C exploits this exact setup (log manifolds + merging) to get its exhaust sound.

Interesting explanation. Thanks for that. I know why a flat-plane V8 sounds like a 4 cylinder, but I didn't have it clear on how was it possible to make it sound more like a regular cross-plane V8. I've heard a bunch of Lotus Esprits sounding like big American V8's and now I know why 👍
 
Interesting explanation. Thanks for that. I know why a flat-plane V8 sounds like a 4 cylinder, but I didn't have it clear on how was it possible to make it sound more like a regular cross-plane V8. I've heard a bunch of Lotus Esprits sounding like big American V8's and now I know why 👍

I think it was your mentioning it in a previous thread that led me to investigate it. 👍

As a complete aside, there's a company called Ricardo which were contracted in to "do the sound" (well, the whole engine, in partnership) for the MP4-12C; interestingly, they have a suite of software tools that can simulate the gas exchange in engines, and the acoustic effects of any plumbing attached to it. They even have audio examples, although they're obviously massively band-limited (acoustic effects above a certain frequency have no discernible effect on engine performance, so they only simulate up to that point, but at normal engine speeds, these higher frequencies are still audible, and so they are conspicuous by their absence.)

What's impressive is they even offer a real-time version, after a pre-compute step. Looks like my dream of good quality, infinitely variable engine sounds in a game isn't too far off.
 
Actually 2 days ago i drove the Audi TT touring car and i noticed strange un-car like sounds also.
When you go high in the refs it sounds like theres this electrical current cracking, and also like there's a african tribe playing the drums in the distance (this jungle-like sound).

I don't race with music and i race with the small theatre config.
Everyone has those same strange noises when driving that car i wonder?

(i'm not jerking around here, just tried again and it comes with the car each time).

I know the noise you mean, its like a weird popping burbling noise! I thought it sounded really odd too, but have started to really like it haha
 
haha i remember i built up a EK9 Civic Type R in GT4 and all it did was whine.

This isn't strange, but i think the GDB RM has a more obvious turbo blow off. I can hear the flutter on some cars, but in the Impreza, it's just so loud.
 
Actually, the Esprit in GT5 sounds just like it should. A flat-plane V8 kind of sounds like a huge pissed off 4 cylinder.


Not exactly how it sounds in the game, but it has the same type of 4 cylinderish note. And this IS a V8 Esprit.

However, I think that with the correct modification of the exhaust manifold you could make it sound more like a regular crossplane V8

Oh god, I think I need to change my underwear...


I'd rather have the rumble and load ass roar from a muscle car.
 
Well at least none of cars make Dubstep music from their exhausts :p

Even though it was rumoured (in the GT5 meme thread) that Hoover and Dyson were in collaboration with PD for sound sampling :sly:
 
I'd rather have the rumble and load ass roar from a muscle car.

I'd have both.

Although "muscle car" is a touch vague, and leads me to suspect this is really just your way of saying you don't like anything that's not a US-made cross-plane V8.

That's fair enough, I love the rich and varied sounds that such engines produce, but I don't think I can say I'd rather have one over anything else; that applies in the other direction, too.
 
The Esperante GTR-1 uses a big Ford V8 with straight exhaust pipes so it sounds just like the absurdly-priced 1969 GT40 Race Car, which is to say, it sounds like crap. It's just what those huge 2-valve pushrod Ford V8s sound like with a straight racing exhaust.

The Esperante raced at the Minneapolis Grand Prix (late 90's) thru a street course in downtown. When I was along the main straight, you could hear it coming and it rattled every bone in my body as it raced past. Incredible.

The Daihatsu OFC-1 Concept '07 with a racing exhaust (yea, I know, I know) has got to be the worst sounding car in the game. Doesn't even sound like a car.
 
Drive the Chapparral 2D. It sounds like the apocalypse, and then you reach 3rd (top) gear at over 170 mph. It scares people online. It scares ME.
 
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