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What is your definition of a supercar:

A very fast, comfortable car with lots of BHP, unique, very expensive like the Mercedes McLaren???

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a very fast, simple, basic car with lots of BHP, unique, very expensive?? Maybe the DBRS9
 
I think the single easiest criteria to list is that the car has to be built for speed above all else. For me, the most perfect supercar is the Ferrari F40. It's very light, very powerful and there are no "creature comforts" for the driver. Something like the Mercedes SLR or Bugatti Veyron would be at the other end of the scale (within what are usually called supercars anyway). Yes, they're quick, but they're not really built in the spirit of a supercar. They're built to be comfortable and heavy, sacrificing speed for "pose ability".
 
No I reckon Supercars are master peices.

Also a supercar has to have a top speed of 160MPH before its a supercar.
 
I'd like a fast, comfortable car like a DB9, not a really expensive car like a Merc SLR, othersise I'd be scared to even drive it (well I'd be really rich if I bought it so it would'nt matter).

I've never really been in a expensive, basic, almost track day car before so I can't say if I'll like one over the other.
 
I think a supercar is a really simple, rough, powerful and ridiculously fast car. I think a Porsche Carrera GT is more of a supercar than a McMerc SLR.

I think SLR is just a really fast grand tourer. It's loaded with safety and comfort-equipment and that makes it heavy but comfortable and easier to live with. Yeah I know, it can out-perform the Carrera GT, but still I don't think it's a proper supercar.

Or if we say the SLR is a supercar, then the Porsche has to be.. a hypercar.
 
Me personally don't like comfortable, super fast, cars. A real supercar is, in my opinion, a road legal race car!!! Or like the DBRS9, a copy of the race version, the DBR9.
 
I think the definition of 'Supercar' is not quite as clear cut as say 15 years ago. These days many cars, on paper at least, have the kind of performance that traditionally was only reserved for supercars. So i suppose you can only define a car as a supercar if it ticks the other boxes in the supercar definition call-sheet ie is its sporting pretenses in any way compromised (unessasary weight or additions)? is it exclusive? is it out of reach of the majority of the population?
 
Another good supercar coming out will be the TVR Typhon top speed 215MPH under 4 secs to 0-60MPH.

With a supercharged Straight Six and all under £100,000 bargin.
 
If it can do 200mph, it's a supercar, regardless of other issues. That's NOT to say that if it CAN'T do 200mph it isn't...
 
I found out 160MPH is the lowest that a supercar has to be knowen as a supercar read it in one of the old Top Gear mags.
 
And a 0-60 in less than 6 seconds, maybe?
 
The worlds first supercar was the Mercedes 300SL it came out in 1955 and because it was so fast compared to everything alse at the time it became the worlds first supercar. It topped out at 146Mph. A supercar is a car that pushes the limits of whats possible at the time it's built performance wise, what was a supercar yesterday wouldn't be if it came out today, and what comes out today might not be if it came out in the future.
 
live4speed
The worlds first supercar was the Mercedes 300SL it came out in 1955 and because it was so fast compared to everything alse at the time it became the worlds first supercar. It topped out at 156Mph. A supercar is a car that pushes the limits of whats possible at the time it's built performance wise, what was a supercar yesterday wouldn't be if it came out today, and what comes out today might not be if it came out in the future.
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It was shame it had drum breaks.
 
G.T
A Nissan 350Z is a Supercar then?
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No, the Nissan 350Z is not a supercar, compared to other cars of it's time, ie today, theres nothing super about it. If it came out 30 years ago with that performance then yes it might have been.
 
live4speed
No, the Nissan 350Z is not a supercar, compared to other cars of it's time, ie today, theres nothing super about it. If it came out 30 years ago with that performance then yes it might have been.
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I know, I was just saying to ultrabeat that if he think's a car that goes 0-60mph in under 6 seconds is a supercar, it could be a 350Z, which it's not. I was giving him an example.
 
I know, I was just giving my opinion on why it's not.
 
Most (if not all) production cars that'll crack 160mph will be able to accelerate from 0-60mph in less than 6 seconds anyway, so having a secondary condition like that is like saying "It's only a supercar if it can do 160mph and has at least one wheel"

edit: Unit correction
 
I know it's more of a sports car than a supercar. I just set 6 seconds as a loose base.
 
Theres no way to set a speed or acceleration figure as a definition of a supercar, not every supercar car can crack 60 in less than 4 seconds, not every supercar can go 160Mph or more, not every supercar is in production today.
 
That would banish most Ferraris, bar the Enzo.
 
What would the Porsche Carrera, where would that fit? It can compete with the likes of Lamborghini and Ferrari, but its still pretty cheap compared to them, what about their top speed, anybody have any info on that?
 
Elegy
What about 0-60 in 4 seconds or less?
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Caterhams? I don't think so.

They have to blend good acceleration with top speed IMO. Caterhams have the acceleration, but not the top speed.
 
Well, we could always do what GT4 does...set an HP figure as the dividing limit and be done with it. :)

EDIT: And, so sorry, but...I've not heard of Caterham before. :dunce:
 

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