Supra RZ

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Ok.. I'm having the biggest trouble tuning this car to the way I like it.. Even looking over the guides. It seems to me , to be one of the hardest cars to tune. No matter what I do, the rear just wants to spin, I've played with the Diff, the traction everything to get the rear to grip but nothing seems to help. So far on my fav test track the midway. I pull 1:10 as the best lap time with this car. I currently own three Supras, Black,Red, and blue. All of which do not grip well.:scared: And if they start to grip they don't turn. So where is a Solid tuning for this car. Any help.?
 
How much power, which tyres, downforce yes/no?

Looks like a good place to do some marketing... visit Mad FinnTuners Co., test one or more of the cars, write a short review and we'll tune you a car of your liking, like that Supra. Instructions in Post #11. :)
 
If not, seeing how cheap Supras are, maybe the juggernaut needs to start moving.

That means Mallender Racing will begin taking requests.

The thread is up, I'm doing the Supra the way it'd be the most tailhappy: R2's (I could run S2's, but that's idiotic at full power), full power/drivetrain/suspension, full weight reduc, and no refresher. Should be a fun car to tune. Give me a little while, and I'll have it done.
 
Hmm... 'ya think????

Since I've had that tune done since JULY, I think I'd know...

I should redo it, but nah.
 
Hey Rotary Junkie, just remeber you were a new member once and didnt know much as well....just go easy them....
 
im on the way home, i don't mess with supra's but i'll take a crack at one for street tires, what's this idiotic business at full power? i'm running 1032 on s3's and i runs fine, how much worse can this be?
 
I guess that it's bit annoying to know that Supra can not handle big power as well as GT-R..:sly:
 
dimplz
Hey Rotary Junkie, just remeber you were a new member once and didnt know much as well....just go easy them....
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Ahahah@Rockit, turn off the aids and drive it.

And dimplz: You got the same ish from me. All are guilty until proven innocent. :lol:

Yes, I was a new member here once. But I've been around forums so long that I know not to ressurect for a pointless post. :p

Rockit: Give me a lap of the 'Nurb in your 1032hp car, and I bet I did better with my Integra with a mere 260hp.

Or even better, my 210hp Elan. (Careful, that thing's quicker than the Integra. Weighs 600lbs less.)
 
Neither can I.

But I can get the same or better straight line performance out of a Skyline VspecII Nur and better cornering from an RX-7.

So I don't drive them.
 
i find the supra to have better acceleration then my skyline, even with less hp.. i'm hitting the same top speed at the captain in the supra as i am in the skyline, difference being im entering that strait at 110 mph in the skyline, and 95~ in the supra, while burning tires!! that means the supra is overcoming poor entry velocity and a waste of its power to match my 911 hp Nur in the straight. however for the whole of the track im a dissapointing 5 seconds slower. the trade off in times is due to the angle i'm ripping in the turns vs pure grip.

i've gone waay away from the stock tune, and will finalize the tune tonight, and post it in the grand opening of phoenix speed delivery tommorow. With a steady right thumb, this car is a deadly drifter!
 
Steady right thumb? I run a wheel and the Supra feels like a pile. Next to GT Legends cars (1960s race cars.), no less.

Something MUST be funny with your Skyline. Or else it would KILL the Supra.

Get a nice FD. Spirit R preferably.

200+mph top speed (I gear it for 175 or so), GREAT cornering... Lightweight and 600+hp does that, eh?
 
have a spirit r, love it. if you can find it under the pile of bs in my garage, i posted a tune of the supra rz. i should be more specific about that acceleration, at the straight on el capitan, i can hit a slightly higher top speed then in the skyline before braking, despite slower entry speed.

what would be wrong? do the math, fr vs awd= less drivetrain loss, lighter car vs heavier, less total downforce, nearly equal power, BUT the supra's power curve is superior, i see the makings for it to win in the long ball.
 
Actually, the power curve on the Supra SUCKS.

Lots of torque once the turbo hits, but nothing a little further up.

Anyways, look at the 300mph club. I see not a 330 mph Supra.
 
do you know what you're talking about? the torque curve falls off? not unlike a skyline's torque curve then. maybe thats why i use the peakier stage 4 turbo listed in my tune, huh, go figure. why is it everywhere i go you're trying to burn me? I also posted the slightly narrow criteria for that statement, with a hypothesis. Other then bashing supra's, what have you done that was usefull in here?

i haven't done crap to you, i'm helping the people that originaly asked for it. i've posted a tested tune with instructions. What have you done? Bug off, i have yet to see you do anything usefull here.
 
If anyone should bug off, it would be your sorry disrespectful self.

You're right, you've done nothing to me. But you have to others. And I have a big problem with that.

The stage 4 falls off at the same point as stock, but takes longer to hit the power. Makes it even worse.

The Skyline's curve is wide and flat, but falls off early compared to redline. Well, at least at sane power levels. (4-600hp)

Oh, and, if I remember correctly, I HANDLED THIS TUNE!.

Heck, it was the first publicized Mallender Racing tune!

I build my cars for control over a race. 800hp, 1000ft/lb, 1300kg cars don't fit that criteria. Hence mine having a mere 460. But no lag. So no sudden jump in power.
 
i agree on the less power=faster. I was under the impression that the tuning request was for a full power supra, the stage 4's hp doesn't drop off before redline, and the torque peak comes in very fast on the original's kit, wheelspin ensues. i went with loooong gears with the stage 4 and it burns tires mightly anyways, the rear is veeery light on the car. I'd say my suspension with 600ish hp and re geared would be a relatively fast car. I look at torque not hp for takeoff, that lag you speak of ought to be giving the car a rolling start making it easier to get out of the hole. we're still talkin several hundred ft/lbs in the midrange even with stage 4, so it's my personal choice to use the high end power to reach great speed, and the turbo lag helps to ease it out of the hole. Sadly, at this power level the sport tires just don't do it, the car is a beast from 100 mph and up, but till then it's a tire spinning monster..
 
Actually, the weight balance of the Supra si no worse than, likely better than the Mustang, and about the same weight.

The problem with the turbo lag is that you'll have it FLOORED, and it won't be spinning the tires, possibly misleading you, then the power/torque hits and the tires will get blown away. Then the tail rotates and you get screwed over.
 
bit of toe in and d*mn good throttle control can just barely cope with this. as i have done 99% sport tire cars, even at full power my throttle control is pretty good, i have the rpm almost down to cut out the throttle (bout 3000r's) to try and save on the spin but, alas, still a PITA. BUT for drifting, my setup kicks some butt, pulls out some mad angle but then hangs on the edge of balance, then whips back around controllably. if i actually aimed the tuning more towards drift controll it could be formidable.
 
Leonidae
I guess that it's bit annoying to know that Supra can not handle big power as well as GT-R..:sly:
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all the skill is in the driver. if you have a heavy finger, its not the cars fault, i have about 10 fully modded supras with full power and i run all the tracks fine, its all in the thumb. be gentle, just cuz theres a monster under the hood doesnt mean it likes to be treated like one. all my supras top speeds are 290+ mph
 

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