Suspension bounce

[thelvynau]

Hi guys I was sitting racing on eiger norwand and had a thought about the jump after the start finish line.

I notice there isn't much bounce when you land from your suspension like when you see muscle cars in movies jump so my question is I was wondering if there is a way to simulate that in gt5?

And before I get pounced on by the usual thread police I did try searching twice.

Thanks

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

I don't know exactly what suspension settings will cause you to bounce, but some of my old tunes used to give me great handling on flat circuits, but caused a few of my cars to bounce horridly on jumps and curbs. Since softening the suspension a bit and reducing the extension considerably, I no longer suffer with that problem anymore, so my very uneducated guess would be that it's mostly related to the extension settings.

 

[McClarenDesign]

I don't know exactly what suspension settings will cause you to bounce, but some of my old tunes used to give me great handling on flat circuits, but caused a few of my cars to bounce horridly on jumps and curbs. Since softening the suspension a bit and reducing the extension considerably, I no longer suffer with that problem anymore, so my very uneducated guess would be that it's mostly related to the extension settings.

The Tuning section should be able to help with this.

 

[seanneedscar]

If you set up your car to do this, it would handle like crap

But right off the top of my head, max ride height and soft springs

 

[JBanton]

If you set up your car to do this, it would handle like crap

But right off the top of my head, max ride height and soft springs

Nothing more I really need to add, this pretty much sums it up simply

 

[crcn11]

I imagine you see them bouncing more in movies and stuff because they have suspension set up to absorb and dissipate the impact of the car hitting the ground.

 

[Scaff]

Its actually an issue with GT5 suspension, stock setting should see suspension go through a few bound and rebound oscillation over a jump the size of the one at Eiger (well actually it should on more that a few sent the suspension strut straight through the top of the mounting).

The level of controlled rebound you see on even stock cars over this jump is pretty much the same as a well set-up WRC car would have.

 

[thelvynau]

Its actually an issue with GT5 suspension, stock setting should see suspension go through a few bound and rebound oscillation over a jump the size of the one at Eiger (well actually it should on more that a few sent the suspension strut straight through the top of the mounting).

The level of controlled rebound you see on even stock cars over this jump is pretty much the same as a well set-up WRC car would have.

Thanks scaff I thought it didnt look right.

 

[fbccars924]

Also, turn your dampers down to nada on both settings.

 

[Scaff]

I imagine you see them bouncing more in movies and stuff because they have suspension set up to absorb and dissipate the impact of the car hitting the ground.

Bouncing more would imply softer suspension which is exactly the opposite of what you would need to do in order to absorb the energy of impact. Firmer springs would be needed to handle the increased load from the impact of hitting the ground and very well manufactured and set-up (stiff high speed damping) would be required to control it.

Softer suspension resulting in less control and more 'bounce' have a significantly great change of hitting the limit of compression, running into the bump stops and transferring all that uncontrolled energy to the car, hence why road cars (which do not have suspension designed for this) run a significant risk of punching the strut though the top mount.

 

[crcn11]

Bouncing more would imply softer suspension which is exactly the opposite of what you would need to do in order to absorb the energy of impact. Firmer springs would be needed to handle the increased load from the impact of hitting the ground and very well manufactured and set-up (stiff high speed damping) would be required to control it.

Softer suspension resulting in less control and more 'bounce' have a significantly great change of hitting the limit of compression, running into the bump stops and transferring all that uncontrolled energy to the car, hence why road cars (which do not have suspension designed for this) run a significant risk of punching the strut though the top mount.

Ah, that's what I was trying to get at, I've seen an Impreza rally car on the Mineshaft (I think it's called) jump in the old Aussie rally losing a strut through the bonnet / hood.

 

[fbccars924]

stock spring rates with your damper set to their lowest setting with ~100kg of ballast in the center(or where ever it doesnt affect your weight distribution).

 

[thelvynau]

Well this is just on gt5 I notice the bounce isnt on the stock cars.

Ill see what forza 4 does tonight.