Suspension Help

  • Thread starter Thread starter Living_Vipe
  • 5 comments
  • 751 views
Messages
2
Could someone please explain suspension stiffness to me please.

Is heigher or lower suspension is stiffer?
Does stiffer suspension speed your car up in corners?

I've read ///M Spec's and Greyout's guides and still dont know these 2 questions
 
For spring rate(springs), 9.0 is stiffer than 8.0. 8.0 is softer than 9.0.
Other members' insight would help too.

Duck7892
 
Springs are designed to absorb and store energy imparted to the vehicle by irregularities or "bumps" in the road. A very slow moving vehicle would need little more spring than what is required to balance the pull of gravity (the spring just holds the car up off bottoming), while a high speed vehicle needs enough spring (stiffness) to absorb the amount of energy it is likely to have thrust into it. You want your springs to be as soft as possible, which may be very hard in a race car, because if the spring is too stiff it would be as if the car were solid with no suspension. Too soft a spring is also bad, however, because it will simply collapse under load, again making the car behave as if it has no suspension. In between too stiff and too soft are the nuances that control stability and turning characteristics. softer front ends are grippier (often) and tend to understeer, stiffer front ends are more stable and tend oversteer. The reason people tend to overstiffen their cars is the stability that results; they usually soften the suspension when they realize they are sliding sideways too much and going forward too little.
I can explain this in simpler terms if necessary.
 
Living_Vipe
Could someone please explain suspension stiffness to me please.

Is heigher or lower suspension is stiffer?
Does stiffer suspension speed your car up in corners?

I've read ///M Spec's and Greyout's guides and still dont know these 2 questions

Ride height does not affect the stiffness of the suspension. It affects the center of gravity of the car. A lower center of gravity will have less tendency to body roll (shift weight to the outside) when cornering. It may also have some aerodynamic effects, but I'm less clear on that.

A stiffer suspension (higher spring rates and damper settings) can improve your maximum cornering speed by altering the general handling dynamics of the car. A car with a soft suspension will have a lot of body roll in corners. The shifting weight of the car will reduce the grip of the inside tires and make it more likely to understeer. A stiffer suspension will reduce this tendency in general. But keep in mind that the suspension's main job is to absorb imperfections in the road surface. If you make it too stiff, your car will have a tendency to lose contact with the road over small bumps. Adjusting suspension stiffness in the real world is a fine art. Doing it in GT4 involves some trial and error. Another thing to look into is adjusting the anti-roll bars in the front and rear. Higher settings will reduce body-roll without affecting the overall suspension stiffness. Again, though, too much can actually cause sliding in corners.

Hope this answers your questions.
 
Poseidon88
Another thing to look into is adjusting the anti-roll bars in the front and rear. Higher settings will reduce body-roll without affecting the overall suspension stiffness. Again, though, too much can actually cause sliding in corners.

Hope this answers your questions.
Excellent description but not entirely true. The anti-roll bar reduces vehicular instability and roll, which happens when a suspension unit upper rocks or flexes laterally in relation to the lower portion; by leveraging the loaded outside unit against the unloaded unit on the opposite side. Although it reduces the roll or jitter, it invariably binds the suspension to a degree, causing an increase in friction (as if you bent your shock pushrod) and a corresponding increase in apparent stiffness.
 
Back