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We are the good year of our lord 2014, so Imola '94 has been 20 years this year...
I'd like to start this thread, for a) news or articles about events where they are going to remember this occasion (doesn't matter where or when), and b) For the older members I'd like to know where you were that fateful day, or other memories of Senna?

Also PD will probably have it's own remembrance of this occasion with Senna DLC, and i'm sure that the F1 circus will also stop and think about this in 2014.

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It hasn't quite been 20 years yet.
 
I have something prepared when the time comes, just not now.
 
Well I was alive back then, however I was 2. So I can't quite remember. Probably at home playing with toys and being absolutley oblivious to it.
 
I was at the Imola circuit that day(me and my dad went to almost all european races between 1992 and 1997),luckaly i was sitting at the start/finish stands so i didnt see the accident of my all time hero...

I can write a very long story about the atmosphere on the stand,but as you can imagine there were no smiles and most people cried,as did i...

The weekend had a very strange feeling from day 1...and the rest is unfortunally history... :(

Dont know what i will do this May when its excactly 20 years ago...maybe just go to the pup and have a beer...think about it for a minute,and then move on.

There were and will be many times i remember what happened back then,i will never ever forget it,but time moves on and life does too...


New season starts next week,cant wait.. :)




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I was at the Imola circuit that day(me and my dad went to almost all european races between 1992 and 1997),luckaly i was sitting at the start/finish stands so i didnt see the accident of my all time hero...

I can write a very long story about the atmosphere on the stand,but as you can imagine there were no smiles and most people cried,as did i...

The weekend had a very strange feeling from day 1...and the rest is unfortunally history... :(

Dont know what i will do this May when its excactly 20 years ago...maybe just go to the pup and have a beer...think about it for a minute,and then move on.

There were and will be many times i remember what happened back then,i will never ever forget it,but time moves on and life does too...


New season starts next week,cant wait.. :)
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Where you sitting near where the wheel of Pedro Lamy's car went flying into the stands at the start?
 
I had no idea Williams idea of honoring somebody is to put their face on a penis, but I digress
 
They've featured the Senna "S" on every Williams nose since 1994, though it's usually on the wing upright or on the wing itself.

That said, I'll reserve my memories for the actual date of the event.
 
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I had no idea Williams idea of honoring somebody is to put their face on a penis, but I digress
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Well, Senna was the man, so it makes sense to honor him with one of the most manly things in the universe, a manly schlong. Think about it.
 
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Well, Senna was the man, so it makes sense to honor him with one of the most manly things in the universe, a manly schlong. Think about it.
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There's probably one of those deep meaning Senna quotes out there about a schlong that somebody has used in a Facebook status.
 
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Senna did a lot for us in the world of racing. When that piece of GT6 DLC comes out, it's time to try out for the gold medal at money throwing at inanimate TV screens.

I 'tried' to make my tribute to him in the form of a Japanese narcissist of my fiction, but i don't think it worked out. due to his... narcissism. It was a good try, if i said so myself.

And I think i'd wait for May 1st before I'll share what i think about him.
 
i just had an interesting question: would people still look at Senna the same if he actually survived the crash or he was born and started racing at the same time as Vettel?
 
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i just had an interesting question: would people still look at Senna the same if he actually survived the crash or he was born and started racing at the same time as Vettel?
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No they wouldn't, just like how people looked at Earnhardt differently after he died in similar fashion.
Before Earnhardt died a lot of fans didn't like him because he dumped a lot of people. Now he was just "rattling their cages".
Senna would be regarded as one of the greats and a lot of people (Mostly those in Brazil) would argue he's the greatest regardless of if he were alive or not, but the discussion would be a lot more open for guys like Prost, Schumi, Piquet, etc.
 
sorry if it would seem stretching it too far, but i think "dying a hero or live long enough to see yourself a villain" very much applies here. i'm not saying Senna would become a villain, but i think a part of the reason why he's highly regarded is because since he's dead, he can never be involved anymore at more controversies, feuds, etc. that could possibly affect his popularity. we will never see his driving skills wither away as he ages so in our eyes he's still that driver with perfect skills.

i also assume that Senna also has his share of haters during his time. they're just not much pronounced since internet is still very young that time. he would probably experience Vettel-levels of hate from fans if he raced at this time, or maybe not because i know Senna is a very cool guy.

don't get me wrong though. i idolize Senna too. i've been reading articles about him before i got into F1. whenever i play his Super Monaco GP game at Genesis, everytime i crash the car on an obstacle, it depresses me because the crash animation looks almost exactly like Senna's crash at the Tamburello curve (even with the wheel flying off). fortunately i haven't crashed my car on that certain part of San Marino course yet...

RIP Senna.
 
Isnt it weird how the 3 biggest all time F1 greats all fell victims to tragedy. First Clark, then Senna, and now Schumacher.
 
@Earth, that's a silly thing to say for a number of reasons... firstly you've missed out more greats (not sure you have the right top three, if one must limit oneself) and Michael Schumacher's outcomes are known, I'd stop short of announcing 'tragedy' just yet.
 
There's one question I've been pondering over.

Ever since Senna's death, huge steps had been taken to improve the overall safety in F1 and motorsport in general. When you look at F1 now a lot of people wouldn't think the cars are as dangerous as they were in Senna's era and a lot would agree motorsport is much safer these days.

So my question is. IF Senna had unstrapped his seatbelts and climbed out of his car and walked back to the Imola pits. What would the safety of motorsport be like now?

Yes I know that weekend itself was massively horrible with Ratzenberger, Barichello and the loose wheel etc. But I'm not so sure as much would have been done if Senna survived. To me it seems like it had to take the death of someone like Senna for the FIA to wake up and smell the coffee.

Think about all the other massive crashes since. Schumacher at Silverstone in '99. Kubica, Canada '07. Webber, Valencia '10. If Senna survived would crashes like those have claimed the lives of those 3? We'll never know but I've always pondered it.
 
According to Wikipedia, the drivers decided to revive the Grand_Prix_Drivers'_Association on the morning of 1 May 1994 after Ratzenberger's death. If Senna had survived, I think he would have pushed for increased safety in F1.
 
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So my question is. IF Senna had unstrapped his seatbelts and climbed out of his car and walked back to the Imola pits. What would the safety of motorsport be like now?
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Then I guess Senna wouldn't have been the last F1 driver to die racing in the sport, I think we'd still have got to where we are now, just at an even higher cost.
 

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