The 4th Annual GTP Formula 1 Awards! - *Nominees*

[Lee]

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Yep, it's back again, four years already? Blimey, at this rate, the series is going to fall pregenant and get married! And that's all by the time Nelson Piquet jr finishes off scrubbing Flav's yacht! (How else do you think he got an extension?) So, some of the awards have been carried over from last year, and then there's some new ones for extra kicks. Same proceedure as last year, simply give me your TWO NOMINEES for each award via PM and I'll tally them up in my dungeon filled with posters of Nick Heidfeld.

Deadline is the 20th of November at 11pm GMT so get 'em in fast!

Golden Oldies:

Best Start To A Race - This is to the driver who produced a faultless start off the line and capitalised into Turn 1.
'07 Winner - Marcus Winklehock (European GP)

Best Overtaking Manoeuver - The one moment that caused you to fall off your seat in pure amazement of an overtaking god.
'07 Winner - Sato's Pass On Alonso (Canadian GP)

Most Improved Driver - Who has upped their game this season to a new level?
'07 Winner - Nico Rosberg

Best Rookie Performance - We had a couple of new faces this season, but who was the best?
'07 Winner - Lewis Hamilton

Best Single Race Performance - Sometimes a driver is on the ball for a race and outperforms even themselves, this rewards just that.
'07 Winners - Heikki Kovalainen (Japanese GP), Sebastian Vettel (Chinese GP)

Team To Watch in 2009 - Which team takes your fancy after this season's performance?
'07 Winner - BMW Sauber

Most Promising New Driver - And of the rookies, who will you be keeping your eye on over the next few years?
'07 Winners - Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel

Most Improved Team - And which team has really shook up the order of F1?
'07 Winner - BMW Sauber

Biggest Dissapointment Of 2008 - What caused a downer in the Formula 1 paddock this season?
'07 Winner - The Spy Scandal

Best Race Of 2008 - Which race had it all? Overtaking, drama, accidents and giving us a truly memorable spectacle.
'07 Winner - Brazilian GP

Best Team Of 2008 - 2008 will always be remembered for some right ol'mess ups by the top two teams, so who gets your vote for the team of the year?
'07 Winner - BMW Sauber

Best Driver Of 2008 - The one all the drivers want, to be number one, you must have exceptional talent behind the wheel of a racecar, and not just outright speed. Overtaking, defending and knowing your limits all amount to becoming the best..
'07 Winner - Kimi Raikkonen

'The Max Attack' Villian Of 2008 - Named after the reigning 3 time winner of this award, Villian of the Year goes to the one individual who really deserves to be shown a lap of Silverstone wet by Felipe Massa..
'07 Winner - Max Mosely

Hero Of 2008 - Out of all the chaos of Formula 1, who has stood up to it all the finest, this can be anyone connected with the sport.
'07 Winner - Kimi Raikkonen


The Newbies:

Unluckiest Driver Of 2008 - For the driver who fealt the pain of walking under a ladder whilst watching a black cat cross paths..
'07 Winner - N/A

Biggest 'ROFLMAO' Of 2008 (Sponsored By Appie)https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=45821https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/member.php?u=45821 - This goes to the one moment of 2008 that caused you to break out the ROLFCOPTER before dieing from a sharp flaming on the forum..
'07 Winner - N/A


Done. See you at the awards ceremony!

Nominations Recieved From:

Bee
nitro_2005
Do you race?
GilesGuthrie
mipuumal
PeterJB
Ardius
Alex.
daan
Only_in_f1
Muzaffar Musa
Metar
Nasadus
GM

 

[GT4 genius]

Its going to be difficult to choose some of them. Kovalinen for unluckiest driver, well definitely before DC parked it at the first corner of Brazil, which was just lousy.

Can you explain the last award, please. And great work putting the thread together and giving your time to this. 👍

 

[Lee]

Can you explain the last award, please.

Sure, pretty much it goes to the moment that caused you to laugh at the TV as you watched on. There have been a few this season.

Thanks for the compliment too, I beat the young wipper-schnappers for another year! (Well, only just..)

 

[Roo]

Are Vettel and Glock classed as rookies (particularly as Vettel won 'Most Promising New Driver' last year)?

 

[Appie]

Can i ask why there is a award about me? I just hope i didn't something bad

 

[Robin]

With the unluckiest driver award does it have to be someone who has been consistanly unluckly throughout the season, or someone who may have just had one major unlucky event?

I would also like to know what classes a driver as a rookie...

Thanks

Robin

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'd say that the unluckiest driver of the year was Adrian Sutil in Monaco and the 'ROFLMAO' has to be Massa's Dad.

 

[PeterJB]

*Ahem* I've sent you nominations aswell!

 

[nissan tuner]

Are Vettel and Glock classed as rookies (particularly as Vettel won 'Most Promising New Driver' last year)?

This is Vettel's second year so rookie of the year automatically goes to Glock

I'd say that the unluckiest driver of the year was Adrian Sutil in Monaco

Him and Takuma Sato

 

[daan]

This is Vettel's second year so rookie of the year automatically goes to Glock

Glock's 4 races in 2004 say he's not a rookie either.

You've got to draw a line somewhere. Rookie = guy in first season of F1. 2004 was Glock's first season, therefore he's not a rookie.

 

[Ardius]

I've given Bourdais best rookie of the year, because I've not been impressed by Piquet at all.
If Vettel doesn't count, Nakajima doesn't either.

I've also given Bourdais or Sutil unluckiest driver of the year.

 

[Roo]

If Vettel, Glock and Nakajima don't count and we only class drivers who haven't raced an F1 car prior to this season as rookies, then that leaves us with Piquet and Bourdais. As Bee has requested two nominees for each catagory, then 'Most Promising New Driver' won't require too much thinking about. It also means that they'll both win.

 

[Ardius]

If Vettel, Glock and Nakajima don't count and we only class drivers who haven't raced an F1 car prior to this season as rookies, then that leaves us with Piquet and Bourdais. As Bee has requested two nominees for each catagory, then 'Most Promising New Driver' won't require too much thinking about. It also means that they'll both win.

As such, I only nominated one person, because I don't think Piquet was very promising at all.

 

[nissan tuner]

Glock's 4 races in 2004 say he's not a rookie either.

You've got to draw a line somewhere. Rookie = guy in first season of F1. 2004 was Glock's first season, therefore he's not a rookie.

hmm, I didn't know this. Sebastien Bourdais for me then.

 

[daan]

As Bee has requested two nominees for each catagory, then 'Most Promising New Driver' won't require too much thinking about. It also means that they'll both win.

But these are just nominations. We'll then get to pick one from the nominees to see who wins.

 

[Lee]

I think it's fair to say that Glock, Vettel and Nakajima are all in their first full Formula One seasons and thus would be 'rookie' still at over half the tracks. So I'd consider them rookies.

However, when the results come in overall, I'll give both the overall winner and the 'realists' winner for those who firmly believe they shouldn't count. (There was also a comment about how Toro Rosso shouldn't compete for Most Improved Team due to using customer cars, I'll do the same for this award as well.)

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Ooh, I missed out on the two nominations stipulation, but I did nominate a few people for some things.

Squabbling over who the best rookie is in 2008 is a bit like squabbling over which sexually transmitted infection you want.

Ooh ooh ooh, no I've got a better one:

Squabbling over who the best rookie is in 2008 is a bit like squabbling over which is best: runs, pellets, logs or cables.

 

[Muzaffar]

Nomination sent.

 

[Ardius]

(There was also a comment about how Toro Rosso shouldn't compete for Most Improved Team due to using customer cars, I'll do the same for this award as well.)

Who said this? It doesn't matter that they used customer cars, as a team they have improved, the fact they used the same car as their sister team and beat them consistently and also beat them to the drinks company's first win is enough to give them that award.
If customer cars means a team can't be considered, surely that would mean Red Bull doesn't count either, eh? Or Force India? Seeing as they didn't design their core chassis.

Chassis design is only one thing a team can improve, they can improve in other areas. Just because the team didn't design their chassis, doesn't mean they are any less of a team.

 

[Metar]

With "most improved", do you mean compared to last season, or during the season? Big differences for me..


Also, I think "Most Interesting Race" is too tough - so many options, so that'll come down to random selections.. I think "Most Boring" will be easier.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Who said this? It doesn't matter that they used customer cars, as a team they have improved, the fact they used the same car as their sister team and beat them consistently and also beat them to the drinks company's first win is enough to give them that award.
If customer cars means a team can't be considered, surely that would mean Red Bull doesn't count either, eh? Or Force India? Seeing as they didn't design their core chassis.

Chassis design is only one thing a team can improve, they can improve in other areas. Just because the team didn't design their chassis, doesn't mean they are any less of a team.

I said it. And I said it for precisely the reasons you articulate! Toro Rosso was a great team before this season, but their step-change in performance is down to getting a much better car from their parent company, not because of their own internal processes.

Like it or not, a customer team is merely the team running the car at the races, and where F1 performance is derived more from the car itself than the running of the car (including drivers), this means that a team that does not build its car cannot be credited with improvements to that car.

I pretty much know I'm fighting a losing battle on this point. I know that people will see that Toro Rosso, derived from Minardi, won a race this year, and that means they must be the most improved team, and will vote based on that assumption. But since it takes 500 people to design & build a car, and 150 people to race a car, why should Toro Rosso receive a whole award for only completing 23% of the work?

 

[Metar]

RBR got the same car from the parent-company - should they be excluded on the same grounds? It's a process that goes both ways, and Red Bull Technologies supplies essentially-identical cars to both teams, excluding differences in packaging of the engines and some delay in parts for the STR team, so it's not a "last season's RBR" anymore, nor getting what RBR already used and developed. Plus, as a team, they've managed to improve the chassis more than the RBR duo could - and that's not just an engine-related issue, or a driver-skill issue. The whole Red Bull squad got a better car - but STR got the most out of it..

On the other hand, I agree with your point - but it should exclude RBR just as much.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

On the basis that the chassis is designed & built in Milton Keynes, and not Faenza, it's a Red Bull chassis, not Toro Rosso. You said

it's not a "last season's RBR" anymore

And therein lies the cause of Toro Rosso's jump in performance. And hence why I think they should be excluded from the award.

I think it's fairly clear that "Red Bull Technologies" is merely an administrative exercise to get around the rule that one competitor cannot license technology to another, and that there has to be an intermediary which owns the intellectual property rights to the chassis design.

Honda did the exact same thing with Honda and Super Aguri, and I don't see anyone claiming that the Super Aguri chassis was anything other than a Honda.

 

[Metar]

Though in both cases, the customers were faster.

 

[Lee]

The nominations have now been closed,thank you to everyone who has voted. Keep an eye out for the finalists very soon!