The Blue Logitech Wheel

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Last Friday, I picked up my expense check (rather large, considering I was on the road all week), cashed it in and headed for Circuit City (well known electronics reseller).

I have the intentions of picking up a Wheel for GT3. Low and behold there was a Blue Logitch Force feedback wheel. $90 +tax later, I was racing home, to set it up. The coffee table was too thick to lock it onto, so I had to improvise. The cheesy little adapter which allows you to hold it between your lags it built for pre-teen children. I used to squat over 400lbs, so my thighs aren't small. An end table, and a dining room chair worked, and was an easy set-up, take down.

The first test out was quite a few runs around super speedway in the stock miata. The first time I hit the rumble strip, it made me jump. Hitting a wall, was a new experience. To say it enhanced your racing experience, was an under-statement. I felt like I was driving. I swooped around the track many times, improving my times, and becoming more familiar with the attitude of the wheel. Also I had to re-learn the track. Which was nice, as I found a better line to take. I switched back to the DS2, and compared times.

Slightly faster with the DS2, but given experience, I figured I'd eventually be faster with the wheel. I have months of time on the DS2, but after 30minutes on the wheel, I was only off pace by 0.1XX seconds. not bad, considering I was turning fairly slow laps in the stock miata. Feeling like I was getting better, I jumped into my New Calsonic Skyline and headed for the Grand Valley 300km enduro.

To familiarize myself with the track, I decided to run a number of qualifying laps. Figuring I had to re-learn the track, I settled in for 30 or so laps. Nearly half of the enduro, but I needed to learn the track. I was able to trim my qualifying time down to match the First place AI. so I went for it.

It's amazing how much changes when you go from running alone to running in the pack. In the first 2 laps I was spun 3 times, settling me about 35 seconds out of first place. Too many to make up. It was about now, that the Shift paddles started to malfunction. It would randomly not let me down shift. I began loosing time in the corners. Restarted. Skipped qualifying, and started racing. Got spun by the AI once each in the first two laps. Restarted. Still off pace, and couldn't gain time. Frustration set in. After 2 more restarts, and 5 more spins, I lost my cool and now need to replace an end table ($15 at K-Mart). I calmly packed up the blue wheel and returned it to Circuit city. In all honesty, I feel that I could definately get better times with it, just that at 78% I didn't want to waste all that time relearning each track.

On a good note, My wife tried it out, and she thought it was fun. So inorder to continue my GT3 playing, I'll be picking one up after I hit 100% (and restart for a fourth trip through the game).

All things considered, I would recommend getting a wheel, and giving yourself about a month to relearn all the tracks.

My 2 cents, and hopefully an unbiased appraisal of the Blue Logitech wheel.

AO
 
OK, now, I have to know: was it the Driving Force, or the GT Force? Did it have D-pads and buttons on the rim?

Because Logitech's website and Pricewatch BOTH indicate that the plain blue GT-3 wheel has been discontinued...

Is that why you had the shifting problem?
 
I think his shifting problem refers to the Driving Force wheel. My advice, next time, get the Formula Force GP for the PC. Although it is intentionally designed for the PC, it turns out that the Formula Force is the same as GT Force, with the exception of colors. That should fix the shifting problem.
 
Knowing Circuit city, It's likely the discontinued model.

I don't recall if it was the Driving force, or the GT Force. It did have the buttons on the wheel. Which was ackward as I tended to hit buttons that I didn't want to.

I'm certain the shifting problem was due to a malfunction. Being a bit of a tinkerer, I figure when I get a new wheel, I'll open it up and put in switched with a higher sensitivity. Something that enables me to shift with less of a pull.

The feedback from the wheel was great. I wish I had tried the Trial Mtn/Miata TT before I returned it. Frustration level was quite high.

Hope this helps.

AO
 
If it had controller buttons on the rim, then that was the Driving Force, which supercedes the blue GT Force. People here have indicated that there is a congenital problem with the Driving Force that interferes with shifting while turning near full lock.

The blue GT Force seems to have a few buttons near the center, which the red one lacks. If you're using the red one, how do you access some of the different controls, like reverse, and the emergency brake? How do you navigate the menus etc.?

I'm debating buying the red one new, or a blue GT Force off of eBay.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
If it had controller buttons on the rim, then that was the Driving Force, which supercedes the blue GT Force. People here have indicated that there is a congenital problem with the Driving Force that interferes with shifting while turning near full lock.

The blue GT Force seems to have a few buttons near the center, which the red one lacks. If you're using the red one, how do you access some of the different controls, like reverse, and the emergency brake? How do you navigate the menus etc.?

I'm debating buying the red one new, or a blue GT Force off of eBay.

It is possible to navigate the menus. For ease, just plug your wheel and DualShock2 at the same time. To navigate in the menu, just use your DS2. If you are racing, just use the wheel (and vice-versa). Remember that the button configurations menu for the wheel is designed for GT Force. Default configurations will work for the red one (Formula Force) as well.
 
Originally posted by quattro_bro
anyone know anything about the :ferrari: -branded force feedback gt wheel by thrustmaster?

I think it is only a rumble wheel.

If you want the true force feedback, get a Logitech - But obvously not the driving force.

Aaand you can use the Logitech on your PC too - nice ;)
 
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