The credits cost of all 454 cars in Gran Turismo 7 [489 Million total]

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Touring Mars
Gutted to see that the McLaren MP4/4 has gone up by 2 million Cr. to 10 million, as per @Eggstor's info...


Yeh... £16 to pay for the extra 2 million Cr. required, or £80 to buy enough Cr. to buy the car using only PSN credits?

**** that.

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I've played this game for over a year and do you know how many cars I've been able to buy that are worth 10 million Cr. or more so far?

None.

And yet, I've clocked up over 576 hours of play time - that's well over an hour a day on average - and I'd argue a fairly decent commitment to a game for a gainfully employed person who has a family and other interests other than GT7 - certainly it's more than I've spent on any other game in my life.

I've earned 134 million Cr. in total thus far, 117 million of which has been spent on cars... but I'm near my limit in terms of what I can do.

At this rate, it will take 4 YEARS of playing over an hour EVERY DAY to afford the cars in the game, or to pay £3200 to buy them using MTX...

I love playing all aspects of GT7, but I also find the in-game economy astonishingly mean.
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Just about sums up the greed and complete disregard of fans of the game. I'm in a similar position and can't devote an hour sometimes due to work and real life. Have psvr2 and would love to just be able to pick a car and drive it. Not saying everything should be given to you from the off but to have to race the same races over and over to scrape enough to buy a car is beyond a joke. Never had 10,000,000 credits and not sure I ever will. It is pure greed as they must have made enough money on the initial game sales.
Not sure but since the last update the roulette seems to always pay the least amount. If it wasn't for psvr2 this game would be on the shelf gathering dust. Kaz said months ago he didn't want people having to grind the same races over and over what has he done about it? Absolutely nothing.
 
Touring Mars
Gutted to see that the McLaren MP4/4 has gone up by 2 million Cr. to 10 million, as per @Eggstor's info...


Yeh... £16 to pay for the extra 2 million Cr. required, or £80 to buy enough Cr. to buy the car using only PSN credits?

**** that.

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I've played this game for over a year and do you know how many cars I've been able to buy that are worth 10 million Cr. or more so far?

None.

And yet, I've clocked up over 576 hours of play time - that's well over an hour a day on average - and I'd argue a fairly decent commitment to a game for a gainfully employed person who has a family and other interests other than GT7 - certainly it's more than I've spent on any other game in my life.

I've earned 134 million Cr. in total thus far, 117 million of which has been spent on cars... but I'm near my limit in terms of what I can do.

At this rate, it will take 4 YEARS of playing over an hour EVERY DAY to afford the cars in the game, or to pay £3200 to buy them using MTX...

I love playing all aspects of GT7, but I also find the in-game economy astonishingly mean.
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Although I agree about the stupid in-game economy. I found it very easy to earn 1 million credits on average with just a mild grind. Why are you earning just a quarter of that?
 
lancashire lad
Not sure but since the last update the roulette seems to always pay the least amount.
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It has always been this way.

Explaining the way the roulette works, and why it always appears to give you the lowest prize is tiring, so here's a shortened version.

Everything other than your prize is fake. It's set up to make you feel like you can get lucky if you just keep trying. 1M appears on a 4 star ticket all the time but you'll only actually win it 1% of the time.

 
I purchased the silly Suzuki VGT car last night to complete my car collection. Every car is in my garage, with multiple copies of a few of them (several BMWs, Mustangs, and Pontiac Trans Ams in varying colors.) No longer going to run the farming races, unless something new comes along that is really costly.
 
Touring Mars
Gutted to see that the McLaren MP4/4 has gone up by 2 million Cr. to 10 million, as per @Eggstor's info...


Yeh... £16 to pay for the extra 2 million Cr. required, or £80 to buy enough Cr. to buy the car using only PSN credits?

**** that.

-

I've played this game for over a year and do you know how many cars I've been able to buy that are worth 10 million Cr. or more so far?

None.

And yet, I've clocked up over 576 hours of play time - that's well over an hour a day on average - and I'd argue a fairly decent commitment to a game for a gainfully employed person who has a family and other interests other than GT7 - certainly it's more than I've spent on any other game in my life.

I've earned 134 million Cr. in total thus far, 117 million of which has been spent on cars... but I'm near my limit in terms of what I can do.

At this rate, it will take 4 YEARS of playing over an hour EVERY DAY to afford the cars in the game, or to pay £3200 to buy them using MTX...

I love playing all aspects of GT7, but I also find the in-game economy astonishingly mean.
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I've got similar play time, 115 million credits earned total but I've collected 48% of the cars in game and that is only from buying cars I want and completing Extra Menu books. I haven't spent any time actually buying cars just because I don't own them yet so I could probably get that percentage much higher just by buying all the normal cars.

I could agree that there should be better balancing but I do like that there is some bit of manufactured scarcity to cars.
 
Adding the two cars that can actually be purchased at the 1.36 launch:
  • 1958 Chevrolet Corvette (C1) - Legend Dealership - 126,000 Cr.
  • 2020 Maserati MC20 - Brand Central - 300,000 Cr.
 
I'm pretty out of the loop, what is the recommended race to grind? I usually go with the Daytona truck race, which I know on paper sounds like a pretty bad grind, but hear me out; $45,000 credits for a clean race and less than 4 1/2 minutes of racing, and it's brain dead easy, you're literally just turning left, and passing all of the AI drivers by the time you're done with the first lap.

But am open for better options.
 
omgitsbees
I'm pretty out of the loop, what is the recommended race to grind? I usually go with the Daytona truck race, which I know on paper sounds like a pretty bad grind, but hear me out; $45,000 credits for a clean race and less than 4 1/2 minutes of racing, and it's brain dead easy, you're literally just turning left, and passing all of the AI drivers by the time you're done with the first lap.

But am open for better options.
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If you have about a half-hour, there's the Grindy Three:
  • The 12-lap (wet) version of WTC 600 at Tokyo Expressway for 825,000 Cr. in about 26 minutes (though this one comes with a warning - if you so much as breathe hard on the AI, you'll lose the Clean Race Bonus and not get the full 825,000 Cr. for a win)
  • The WTC 800 at Sardegna for 727,500 Cr. in a bit under 27 minutes (you'll need one of the higher-PP Gr.3 or, for a guaranteed win even if Fraga goes superhuman, one of the 2008 GT500 cars, which will knock the time down to a bit over 25 minutes)
  • The WTC 700 at Sarthe for 825,000 Cr. in a bit over 30 minutes depending on weather (just stay away from the BMW M4 Gr.4 and Audi TT Cup)
There are threads on all 3 of the races.
 
omgitsbees
I'm pretty out of the loop, what is the recommended race to grind? I usually go with the Daytona truck race, which I know on paper sounds like a pretty bad grind, but hear me out; $45,000 credits for a clean race and less than 4 1/2 minutes of racing, and it's brain dead easy, you're literally just turning left, and passing all of the AI drivers by the time you're done with the first lap.

But am open for better options.
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@Eggstor said it right.
Except Tokyo in the other two races ,CRB is guarantee .
If you looking for smaller races ,GTR at blue moon bay gives 105 k with CRB in about 7 minutes if i remember well.
With the same GTR you can run the first 4 lap race at grand valley also.
Other than that also Barcelona give good amount of credits ( with CRB ) with top of them the Ferrari challenge.
You will spend about 10 minutes each depending on car you use but need to take care ,a small of the track and you loose the CRB .

Best races for me are La Sarthe and Sartegna and i use the smaller ones to test various cars usually in stock form except the tyres .

PS
If you're not at a level that the 4 griding races are open ( menu 37 i think) the blue moon bay is the way to go .
 
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Eggstor
27 minutes (you'll need one of the higher-PP Gr.3 or, for a guaranteed win even if Fraga goes superhuman, one of the 2008 GT500 cars, which will knock the time down to a bit over 25 minutes)
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Sardegna Leaderboard: Grind Times for 45 Cars, Strategies, Tunes & FAQ's (post 1.31)

Welcome to Sardegna’s Leaderboards Whether you’re a beginner level or expert, we welcome submissions of all race times with any car (although most people skip Gr.3 cars as the AI uses them in the race). Older race times are good to post as well, so long as they are from after March 30th 2023...
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Check out that thread for Sardenga tunes. We'll get you under 24, and hopefully 23 minutes easy.
 
TUSMBOX
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Sardegna Leaderboard: Grind Times for 45 Cars, Strategies, Tunes & FAQ's (post 1.31)

Welcome to Sardegna’s Leaderboards Whether you’re a beginner level or expert, we welcome submissions of all race times with any car (although most people skip Gr.3 cars as the AI uses them in the race). Older race times are good to post as well, so long as they are from after March 30th 2023...
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net

Check out that thread for Sardenga tunes. We'll get you under 24, and hopefully 23 minutes easy.
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I'm familiar with that thread. I just don't like having to tune.
KAlex122
Did anyone track how much money (approximately) is needed to fill all the extra menu books?
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If you had to buy all the cars at the current prices (getting the 2001-2010 cars in Brand Central instead of at the UCD for a minor discount, buying the 1992 Honda NSX Type R twice, and buying the GReddy Fugu Z you get from one of the extra menus), it would be 56,561,960 Cr. If you saved all the guaranteed prize cars and the GReddy Fugu Z you get from an earlier extra menu, and buy only one 1992 Honda NSX Type R, it would be 53,281,112 Cr. (give or take the 2001-2010 cars you can buy at a discount at the UCD and any prize cars you were lucky enough to win in championships while working through the menu book).
 
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omgitsbees
I'm pretty out of the loop, what is the recommended race to grind? I usually go with the Daytona truck race, which I know on paper sounds like a pretty bad grind, but hear me out; $45,000 credits for a clean race and less than 4 1/2 minutes of racing, and it's brain dead easy, you're literally just turning left, and passing all of the AI drivers by the time you're done with the first lap.

But am open for better options.
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From my perspective, not doing the “traditional” grind races most people seem to do because I don’t like them, I have two very short ones I alternate between every now and then. I play online and the waiting time in between races if you do for example daily A or B the whole week could sometimes be about 8-10 min. In that span if I’m in the mood to bring in a little extra credits I do either:
  • American Sunday Cup 600 (Daytona Tri-Oval, 3 laps, limited to US road cars) 22,500 in ~1m 55s (CRB)
  • European Sunday Cup 500 (Catalunya, 2 laps, limited to UK/GER/FR/IT/AUT road cars) — 37,500 in 2 min (CRB)
Daytona with Corvette C8 ’20 or similar. Lots of options for Catalunya but remember that the Ferrari VGT is classified as a road car and can fly through this combo in no time.
 
Based on the cost to buy a new engine/new body, the 2022 Toyota GR Corolla MORIZO Edition will be 71,500 Cr. when it becomes available for purchase next month. As the new engine/new body cost on the 2021 Toyota Himedic is currently (presumably temporarily) 0 Cr., there is no estimate for its cost when it becomes available for purchase next month.
 
Almost there... 17.5 million credits, just waiting for the McLaren road car, the two crazy expensive cars after it, the GR prize car, and the GR Corolla to show up. I have a few left to pick up from Brand Central to replace ones I swapped engines in also.
I decided to start saving up credits when the Shelby Daytona Coupe showed back up. Well it's been there a week now.
Red 917k? Check. Pink 911 RSR? Check. 959 with commemorative livery? Check. Purchased versions of all those? Check, with two extra RSR's. HiMedic? Check. Van Uber? Rest in piEces.
 
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shadow0460
Almost there... 17.5 million credits, just waiting for the McLaren road car, the two crazy expensive cars after it, the GR prize car, and the GR Corolla to show up. I have a few left to pick up from Brand Central to replace ones I swapped engines in also.
I decided to start saving up credits when the Shelby Daytona Coupe showed back up. Well it's been there a week now.
Red 917k? Check. Pink 911 RSR? Check. 959 with commemorative livery? Check. Purchased versions of all those? Check, with two extra RSR's. HiMedic? Check. Van Uber? Rest in piEces.
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Do you mean the Road F1? Cause it wont show up till October.
 
lancashire lad
Just about sums up the greed and complete disregard of fans of the game. I'm in a similar position and can't devote an hour sometimes due to work and real life. Have psvr2 and would love to just be able to pick a car and drive it. Not saying everything should be given to you from the off but to have to race the same races over and over to scrape enough to buy a car is beyond a joke. Never had 10,000,000 credits and not sure I ever will. It is pure greed as they must have made enough money on the initial game sales.
Not sure but since the last update the roulette seems to always pay the least amount. If it wasn't for psvr2 this game would be on the shelf gathering dust. Kaz said months ago he didn't want people having to grind the same races over and over what has he done about it? Absolutely nothing.
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lol sounds like your expecting 30 million credits for less than 1 hour of game play or something.

the economy is much better when the first came out. lol you don't even need to spend a cent on the game.

Eggstor
If you have about a half-hour, there's the Grindy Three:
  • The 12-lap (wet) version of WTC 600 at Tokyo Expressway for 825,000 Cr. in about 26 minutes (though this one comes with a warning - if you so much as breathe hard on the AI, you'll lose the Clean Race Bonus and not get the full 825,000 Cr. for a win)
  • The WTC 800 at Sardegna for 727,500 Cr. in a bit under 27 minutes (you'll need one of the higher-PP Gr.3 or, for a guaranteed win even if Fraga goes superhuman, one of the 2008 GT500 cars, which will knock the time down to a bit over 25 minutes)
  • The WTC 700 at Sarthe for 825,000 Cr. in a bit over 30 minutes depending on weather (just stay away from the BMW M4 Gr.4 and Audi TT Cup)
There are threads on all 3 of the races.
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i find Tokyo isn't the best for grinding because its too easy to lose your clean racing bonus and its one of the harder one to dominate like Sardegna or Lemans
 
han1234
lol sounds like your expecting 30 million credits for less than 1 hour of game play or something.

the economy is much better when the first came out. lol you don't even need to spend a cent on the game.
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Which part of my post do I expect 30 million credits for less than an hours play? I'm aware you don't need to spend real money and have no intention of doing so. The point I was making is 99% of the races give very little reward so to gain any meaningful currency you have to race the same few races over and over again. This is mind numbingly boring and purposely designed to try and get players to spend real money.
 
Finally bought the last car to own them all this week. Now I'm finishing up getting first place on every race on the game on hard. That darn Fuji Super Formula race is killing me.

Anyway, I think I only made... 450M credits in the game despite all the cars costing more than this, but you do win a lot of them for free or get gifted some. I did use the Hagerty trick to get the 917, so that saved a lot of time/credits. Otherwise it was a lot of grinding out at Tokyo. Probably ran 60 or more different cars out there. 3 or 4 were exemplary, 30 or 40 were good but not very memorable, 20 kind of sucked but still won. At least there are a lot of cars that can win that race so you can get a lot of variety to it.
 
The new (and new-to-Brand Central) cars, all found in Brand Central:
  • Garage RCR Garage RCR Civic - 300,000 Cr.
  • 2022 Honda Civic Type R (FL5) - 50,000 Cr.
  • Mazda MAZDA3 Gr.4 - 350,000 Cr.
  • 2021 Toyota Himedic - 0 Cr. (that is not a misprint - it's free)
  • 2022 Toyota GR Corolla MORIZO Edition - 71,500 Cr. (confirming the estimate based on the cost of a new engine/new body)
Some of the cars available in the Legend dealership will change in price on their next appearances.
 
Chikane_GTR
Do you mean the Road F1? Cause it wont show up till October.
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Yep, and I snagged both it and the W134. That leaves me with the update cars and the Ferrari 250 GTO to get, plus several Porsches after some more engine swaps.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'll be able to afford the HiMedic. 🤥
 
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The post-1.38 update Hagerty's price changes thus far (with 12 cars left to price, one of which is guaranteed to go up):

  • 1965 Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGTO - 3,750,000 Cr. (+300,000 Cr./+8.70%)
  • 1964 Aston Martin DB5 - 929,000 Cr. (-29,000 Cr./-3.03%)
  • 1987 Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak - 2,100,000 Cr. (-200,000 Cr./-8.70%)
  • 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car - 14,000,000 Cr. (+2,600,000 Cr./+22.81%)
  • 1958 Chevrolet Corvette (C1) - 123,000 Cr. (-3,000 Cr./-2.38%)
  • 1963 Chevrolet Corvette (C2) - 249,000 Cr. (+12,000 Cr./+5.06%)
  • 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 116,000 Cr. (+11,000 Cr./+10.48%)
  • 1967 De Tomaso Mangusta - 333,000 Cr. (+88,000 Cr./+35.92%)
  • 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T - 238,000 Cr. (-68,000 Cr./-22.22%)
  • 1961 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto - 8,400,000 Cr. (+100,000 Cr./+1.20%)
  • 1967 Ferrari 330 P4 - 20,000,000 Cr. (+10,500,000 Cr./+110.53%)
  • 1971 Ferrari 365 GTB4 - 640,000 Cr. (-50,000 Cr./-7.25%) This price decrease will take effect on its next appearance, not its current (as of 9/28) one.
  • 1992 Ferrari F40 - 3,300,000 Cr (+300,000 Cr./+10.00%)
  • 1996 Ferrari F50 - 4,750,000 Cr. (+450,000 Cr./+10.47%)
  • 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 - 337,000 Cr. (+14,000 Cr./+4.33%)
  • 1954 Maserati A6GCS/53 Spyder - 2,500,000 Cr. (-400,000 Cr./-13.79%)
  • 1991 Mazda 787B - 3,300,000 Cr. (+1,100,000 Cr./+50.00%)
  • 1970 Nissan Skyline Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) - 167,000 Cr. (-3000 Cr./-1.76%)
  • 1992 Nissan R92CP - 2,000,000 Cr. (-1,000,000 Cr./-33.33%)
  • 1970 Plymouth Superbird - 529,000 Cr. (+19,000 Cr./+3.73%)
  • 1969 Pontiac GTO 'The Judge' - 279,000 Cr. (+78,000 Cr./+38.81%)
  • 1997 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion - 10,000,000 Cr. (+1,000,000 Cr./+11.11%)
  • 1965 Shelby G.T.350 - 500,000 Cr. (-11,000 Cr./-2.15%)
 
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These are logical prices.... not the Hagerty price frenzy!!!!!

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nickf1gr
I post it like an example of price logic between GT and Forza. I don't really care from where i am buying a car... Ferrari FXX in GT7 costs 3.7 mil....
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We don't really know how races in Forza Motorsport will pay either, so these numbers aren't very relevant. From what they've said, race rewards and car prices are both lowered. GT7 could pay 10M/hr and it would make 3.7M effortless. Just like the real world, prices need the context of wages/salary (or in this case, race rewards) to mean anything. Currency isn't 1:1. Otherwise everything would just look really expensive in Japan.

Edit to add: This isn't to say I think the Hagerty nonsense is good, just that your post doesn't really say anything about it.
 
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nickf1gr
These are logical prices.... not the Hagerty price frenzy!!!!!

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AutumnalGlow
None of these cars would be in the LCD either.
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And not logical either. In fact only the Huracan and X-Bow are rationally priced.

A BRZ is £33k (and $33k); that one is close to double. The current GT3 RS is £100k less than that one (and one of my clients just sold a 991 GT3 for £140k).

On the other side of the coin, that Ginetta LMP1 car is $1.67m apiece for customer teams and each FXX K is at least $2.6m.

Seems like cheap cars are way too expensive and expensive cars are way too cheap.
 
I was going to answer, but @Famine pretty much nailed it. I'll expand a bit on that BRZ - it will be a "spotlight" car in early October, which means it's 30% off. That's still 39,900 Cr. Also, that Huracan price is a VIP-only price (fast-forward to 1:17 of the Forza overview video), so outside that program, it's overpriced if $/£ is supposed to equate to Forza credits.

I will give Turn 10 props for giving us a roadmap though (and there is a reason I used "us" - I pre-ordered the premium edition).

@AutumnalGlow - If memory serves, the lower payout in FM8 is partially a result of credits being only for car purchases, with upgrades using a separate economy. Of course, for the most part, GT7 doesn't exactly require cars to be upgraded.
 
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