The Designers/Engineers I hate thread...

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The Designers/Engineers I hate thread...

For example, I have the guy that put the engine in the 84 Covette so low between the framerails and wheel tubs that you have to take out the engine mounts and jake the engine up to change the plugs.

I also hate the guy that desined the intake manifold on the 96 chrysler town and country. I rolls over the rear cylender head so close that you have to remove it to change the plugs and coil.

I also hate the person the made the emmisions control system under the hood of the 86 Buick regal so complicated that you have to disconnect 25+ wires, hoses, and vacuum lines just to replace the intake manifold gaskets.

Finally I hate the person the that designed the transmition and bellhousing on the 90 Geo tracker making the tranny and bellhousing one piece.

So post the Engineers you you hate and the stupid things they have done....
 
How about the frontal design of the Volkswagen Eurovan, in which you had to remove the front passenger seat to change the oil?
 
How about the design in Oldsmobiles where they put the fuel pump in the gas tank? Do most car companies do this?

I wonder how much money it saved GM by putting it in the gas tank as opposed to placing it somewhere you could easily access it if it stopped functioning.
 
Well, I'm sure they designed it in a way so that it would break the instant the warranty expired.

If you buy an Oldsmobile, you deserve to be ****ed over anyway.
 
the dude that designed the pontiac aztek and the new pontiac sunfire. most stupid designs ever.

Cano
 
I hate Bangle too. His name came to mind as soon as I saw this thread.

Not totally on topic, but I have the guys who decided to kill the Supra, the 3000GTO, and the RX-7.

I hate whoever designed the transmission on the Acura SLX. What a POS. We just got rid of our '96 because the transmission was trashed. My '85 190E's tranny, OTOH, is fine....

Whoever designed the 190E shifter, because, as one of the rare examples of an auto where there is no release button (the lever stays in place due to the shape of the shifter plate), it would be great for adding an aftermarket know, except they used a nonstandard knob attachment and glued the knob on.
 
Bangle must be a proud man... BMW USED to make nice cars... but now he is making the UGLIEST and there not even THAT good
 
i hate where the toyota mr2 turbos alternator is located. theres very little room to work on your alternator, and you have to disconnect the exhaust system to get the althernator out, and its still not much room, you have to wiggle it out, its all a pain in the ass just for that one alternator. i also hate how theres very little room to change the belts. working on the power window.....again a pain in the ass, cause of very little room.

also i hate whoever designed the 91 92 mr2 turbo shifter, those damn things dont have enough syncros for smoother shifting.
 
Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I hate the persons who designed all of the Mercury cars.
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Why? Besides the fact it takes 3 hours to remove the power stearing pump and another 2 to put it all back together :D
 
The guy who designed the body for the Toyota Scion bB. That guy should be forced to watch Richard Simmons dance in his underwear for a week for creating something uglier than an Aztek (A feat I used to think was impossible) .
 
Renault designers.

Hmm. Well, I've got a small comparison to give you.

I have changed a rear bulb on a Ford Granada in under a minute. You just open the boot, open a plastic protective hatch, pinch and pull, and the whole light cluster comes out smoothly. Like it was... erm... designed to!

The same operation on a Renault 19 took 40 minutes, three skinned knuckles and at least three different screwdrivers. Grr!
 
The moron that designed the interior of the PT Cruiser. It looks decent on the outside but the seats are so frickin uncomfortable that I'd rather die than spend another hour sitting in them. (I spent 6 hours in the back seat on the drive to montreal. My mom didn't know what she was getting into when they gave us this else we would have asked another car)
 
Originally posted by Ev0
The guy who designed the body for the Toyota Scion bB. That guy should be forced to watch Richard Simmons dance in his underwear for a week for creating something uglier than an Aztek (A feat I used to think was impossible) .
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Hey, the xB (bB) is actually a pretty cool car. It's ugly at first, but it grows on you. And the interior is really well designed, too, really comfortable. And the cars are ddesigned to be almost infinetly customizable. And, despite the shape, it's light, and has a well designed suspension, so it actually performs quite well.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
Renault designers.

Hmm. Well, I've got a small comparison to give you.

I have changed a rear bulb on a Ford Granada in under a minute. You just open the boot, open a plastic protective hatch, pinch and pull, and the whole light cluster comes out smoothly. Like it was... erm... designed to!

The same operation on a Renault 19 took 40 minutes, three skinned knuckles and at least three different screwdrivers. Grr!
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I've had cars that are the same way. I believe the miata's lights are pretty hard to change.

My 190E, on the other hand, now that's actually a good design feature. Just turn two knobs 90* each, and pull the cluster out.
 
I hate the guy that designed the Honda Element. Worse then the Aztek if you ask me.

The guy who put the I-5 in the Colorado. Why not go with a 6?

The guy who runs APC for making the crappiest stuff...sorry its not a car company nor a car but still.
 
WTF? Why would they put an I-5 in a car? Is there any particular reason?
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Yeah, I gather it's cheaper than the I-6, and is more fuel efficient.
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It's not a car, it is a truck.

It also makes more horsepower than any other V6 in its class I think.
 
Huh? I-5 is an Inline 5 engine with 5 cylinders.

Much like a V8 is an engine 8 cylinders.

Edit: Nevermind, Rumple. I understand what you're saying.
 
I hate whoever took over Iacocca's job at Ford, and ended up designing the Mustang II. That bastard should be shot.
 
Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Huh? I-5 is an Inline 5 engine with 5 cylinders.

Much like a V8 is an engine 8 cylinders.

Edit: Nevermind, Rumple. I understand what you're saying.
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I guess I wasn't too clear with that.

I think I heard that the Chev: Colorado with its I-5 makes more horsepower than any other truck in its class with a V-6.

I am not too sure on that though.
 
Originally posted by BlazinXtreme

The guy who put the I-5 in the Colorado. Why not go with a 6?
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WTF? Why would they put an I-5 in a car? Is there any particular reason?
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Christ, we've been over this.

The I-6 from the Trailblazer did not fit in the Colorado, so they adapted a five-cylinder to fit instead.

I think I heard that the Chev: Colorado with its I-5 makes more horsepower than any other truck in its class with a V-6.
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It's an accurate statement, Rumple - it makes 220bhp - but there are people in this world who need the sixth cylinder to feel like they have a larger penis. They're complete idiots, and their opinion is disregarded by anybody with a brain.
 
Originally posted by Integra Type R
WTF? Why would they put an I-5 in a car? Is there any particular reason?
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Is there any reason why not?

VW Group did it very successfully in the 1980s, and Volvo's entire 850/S70/V70 petrol range had an I5 (albeit designed by Porsche). Also, later incarnations of the Fiat Coupe had I5s, making the engine clearly the best feature of the otherwise merit-free car.

I5s are some of the best sounding engines on earth. Remember kiddies, it's half a V10.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
Is there any reason why not?
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one reason why not is in theory IL5's are harder to make them run as smoothly as IL6's, due to having uneven amount of cylinders
 
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-More horsepower than any V6 engine in its class.

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-Premium aircraft-grade A356 aluminum and an advanced heat treatment process give the engine block and cylinder heads light weight with exceptional strength.

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-Platinum-tip spark plugs help this engine travel up to 100,000 miles before the plugs need to be replaced. The recommended engine coolant change interval is up to five years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first. And the accessory drive belt is designed to operate up to 150,000 miles before requiring replacement.
 

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