The DSM thread (Eclipse, Talon, Laser, GVR-4)

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Alright, lets see some DSMs folks. I know there has to be quite a few owners on here. If you got one, post it up!


Here is mine.. a pristine '97 Eclipse GST. I've owned it for a little over three years now and have taken it from bone stock to what you see.

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It looks V nice, i've always liked the 1g/2g talon/eclipses I would have totally bought one if they sold any here.

So whats been done to it then?
 
whats done? geesh.. there is hardly a part of the car I haven't touched, but here are some of the performance mods...

-Forced Performance BIG T-28 turbo
-Apexi N1 cat-back exhaust
-Road/Race downpipe (cat-delete)
-Injen IS intake pipe
-K&N FIPK air filter
-GReddy intercooler piping
-GReddy Type-S BOV
-Autometer C2 gauges (Boost, EGT, & Oil Press.)
-Digital Tuning's PocketLOGGER (OBDII data logger)
-Hallman Evolution MBC
-Apexi turbo timer
 
My turn.

1992 Eagle Talon TSi

Mine's still at the "Stock" stage, although I'll have an ACT 2100 w/ full disc in inside of two weeks. If I'm going to replace, I might as well upgrade, right?
I've only had my mitts on it for just over a year, though.

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That said, I've done alot of maintence items, including the timing belt, a full brake job, a wheel bearing (shop), both front CV shafts, changed all the fluids, and I've installed a Symborski Bushing Kit for the shifter - It makes a world of difference.
I'll be farming out the clutch to a shop, it's a little bit too big of a job for me to try right now.
 
That eclipse is nice, very nice color, very nice engine bay. I love nice engine bays. Take care of that bodyroll though.
 
Hmm... DSMs aren't bad, but I'd rather an MR'd Probe.

And YES, fix the bodyroll, Slicks. Oof.

Zmann: I think that some 245-255s on 17s would look (Not to mention corner) better, and I don't like the unpainted CF hood. But that's just me, and I doubt that 245s would clear.
 
Unfortunately, it's not just "Fix the bodyroll". It's get wheels and tires, get adjustable dampers and lowering springs, get a camber correction kit, get a strut tower brace, and then I'll be making progress.

Unfortunately, should I go that far, it'll be more than a year away. Except the camber correction kit... Dial in some negative camber in the hopes that I'll stop chewing away the edges of my tires at autocrosses.
 
Heh.

No, use POSITIVE camber!! :p

+ is more than - so positive camber makes your car handle better!





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Slicks, beautiful DSM you have. Awesome car. 👍

And to the half dozen people who posted "look at that body-roll" comments in this thread: you people obviously aren't very familiar with DSMs. These cars aren't loved because they handle well around an autocross course. No, they're famous because they can go damn fast in a straight line for dirt cheap. Not saying a DSM can't be made to handle.. just that it isn't its forte.
 
Sick 2G. Rarely ever see one that clean. Shame it's not a GSX though :p
 
Yeah, very nice 2g, but I see a lot of stock ones around here with the HUGE rice exhaust.
But Here you go 1.8L 197k 1g talon! whoo.

 
:lol: Crankwalk FTL. Those are nice cars, I'd never own one because around here, it comes with a ricer stigmata.
 
I was on the floor.

Anyway, I do like DSM that are tuned "properly". You know, big power, big wheels, etc. I've never been under the impression that they were great circuit or track cars, but that might be because the vast majority of DSMers around here are all about the engine. Nothing wrong with that. One of my car buddies has a 300+whp Talon TSi, and man, that thing is a rocket. He wanted to race a Viper on the highway but the old man wouldn't play, so Alex just shot 2 foot flames at him instead. :lol:

Slicks, I'm not sure how much negative camber gain is typical in lowered McPherson strut setups. There's very little gain, if any, at stock height under load, so I don't figure you'd gain hardly any. If I remember right, my old Cavalier gained under .5 degrees lowered 2 inches. I'm cruising with about -2.5 on the front and -1.5 on the rear of my Sol, and the extra grip from that was stupendous, especially at low speeds. I don't recommend that much on the heavier 1G because my relatively hard all-seasons might make it more than 2 years. I had them off last weekend for my clutch job and decided they'll need to be replaced after another year and a half or so.

If you get high performance summer tires you won't need as much camber because the tires won't roll over as much. My front camber along with 40psi in the tires makes for a perfect cornering contact patch. With summer tires I could probably make do with the recommended 32psi and less camber.

Oh, and if you want to properly iron out your handling, Slicks, you should throw on some big antiroll bars and a new set of tires first. You wouldn't believe the difference a stock-sized hi-po tire, a set of sway bars, and a new alignment would make. You might lose the desire to lower it at all!
 
It wouldn't be anything outrageous - Perhaps an inch.
What I'd be looking for is a complete package in the end that'll get me a firmer ride, less body roll, and better cornering abilities.

Unfortunately, I've got to keep the all seasons that are on it for now - They're perfectly serviceable, with about 70% treadwear left on them. I also want to keep them because I do go up into the mountains for skiing in the winter, and performance tires just wouldn't do. The next big sum I spend on my car will probably be 17" wheels and tires (as opposed to the 16"s on it now) with nice big tread blocks and low treadwear.
 
Ah yes, I forgot you live in Canadia. Keeping the stock tires for winter is a good idea then. I agree. A second set of rims and tires it is then!
 
Bump.

Mine Talon was in the shop Tuesday overnight into Wednesday. They got it done, "No Problems", but I think it's chattering a lil' bit. Something isn't right. I'm awaiting confirmation on DSMTuners right now, but I'm not expecting good things.
 
Sorry to revive this:guilty:, but, 2 things...anyone know how to just get the plastic cover off of the lights on the 1Gs? And is a 4g63 exhaust system compatible with a my 4g37? I just found out today I have another hole in the piping.
 
Plastic cover off which lights?
If it's the headlights, there's just a cap behind each bulb. It's about a half turn and they pop out. They're probably quite stiff.

As for the exhaust, It might fit from the cat-back as long as you've sourced a FWD car to take it from, but if it's from a turbo car it obviously won't fit in the front half (Downpipe), and I'd give it a mabye at best for anything from the cat-back.
 
Wow, very nice ride Zmann. Looks charp. glad you didn't rice it up. All I see around here are riced up eclipses, civics, etc....


Noob question tho. What does DSM stand for?
 
DSM stands for Diamond-Star Motors, the joint venture between Mitsubishi [Eclipse] and Chrysler [Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser. Never heard of GVR-4...] :)

And very nice car.
 
Sweet cars you guys. I wouldn't mind one for a first car. How is insurance on you cars if you don't mind me asking, gas mileage?

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Yo Zmann42087, Is your car a stick?
 
My insurance is $150/month, but that's comprehensive.

Mileage is somewhere in the area of 20-23, no matter how I drive the car. I've tracked it for the past eight months, and it's never strayed from those numbers.

Edit - Oh, and GVR-4 is Galant VR-4. Also has the 4G63T under the hood.
 
Slicks
My insurance is $150/month, but that's comprehensive.

Mileage is somewhere in the area of 20-23, no matter how I drive the car. I've tracked it for the past eight months, and it's never strayed from those numbers.
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Doesn't seem to bad at all. I'm sure the insurance for me will be worse though. I'll be 17 in a few weeks and I live in NJ.
 
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Sweet cars you guys. I wouldn't mind one for a first car. How is insurance on you cars if you don't mind me asking, gas mileage?
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Also Slicks gas mileage is for the 4G63, the 4G37 gets 26-30 mpg. As for insurance its very cheap for me and I'm 18.

And I didn't mean the Bulbs, I've changed those I'm talking about what actually covers the bulbs. You know, the "cover".

And thanks for the heads up on the exhaust, I figured all the piping would be the same, after all its just the Esi. BUT Slicks, does your exhaust (bear with me when i try to explain here) right off the engine have a little sensor that plugs right into it?
 
An O2 sensor? Yeah, it's down there somewhere. I'm not about to go look right now though.
Go ask on DSMTuners (or some dedicated board) whether any bits from the 4G37 exhaust are interchangeable with that of the 4G63.
 

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