The fastest lotus on GT5?
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- Nor*Cal
- PutItInH
I'm inclined to say that the MSE is better than an RMed 111R, therefor I'm inclined to say that the MSE is better than the non-RM 111R as well.
Mind you the MSE is more difficult to obtain, as it's standard. But this hasn't prevented me from getting 6, all in different original colors.
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- Nor*Cal
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Nothing bad about the 111R at all, RM or otherwise. It's a matter of which is better and, frankly, there's a great deal of opinion involved as well.
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- ReTyger
Some time ago, I tested many stock cars at Trial Mountain. The criteria was that Standards had an engine and body rebuilds (if they'd clocked over 3,000 miles, when the engine degradation and power loss starts to kick in) and premiums had an oil change out of the showroom, but were obviously not broken in. Aside from that, stock settings and assists off apart from Sports Soft tyres, and ABS at 1. I ran about 10 laps in each.
Here were the results for some Lotuses:
1:32:831 Lotus Esprit Sport 350 @ 370hp
1:34:567 Lotus Evora @ 283hp
1:35:910 Lotus Elise 111R @ 198hp
1:36:246 Lotus Motorsport Elise @ 211hp
Since then i've become a better driver, so please if you want to beat these times knock yourself out, I would go faster too nowadays (plus spec 2.0 physics would have an effect), but the point is these were all set close to each other at the time, under the same conditions.
Just a few observations:
- The 111R is 5 years younger than the Motorsports Elise, and not much less powerful. I found the 111R to be quicker.
- Seriously try the Esprit against the Elise on any track and the Esprit will win hands down. Be realistic, the Elise is a quick car with awesome handling but it's not a supercar like the later Esprits were.
- Oh and for the usual Veyron haters, out of 150 cars I tested, the Veyron was easily the fastest non-concept production car around the track, at 1:26:907. To claim a Punto or even an Elise is quicker around the TGTT is ridiculous. Just check your speed on the follow through, and compare. And no i'm not a Veyron fanboy but use that facile response if you wish
- Final point, I didn't try any other 90s Esprits but some if not all of these also develop 350hp+ so may actually be quicker than the 350 Sport.
Here were the results for some Lotuses:
1:32:831 Lotus Esprit Sport 350 @ 370hp
1:34:567 Lotus Evora @ 283hp
1:35:910 Lotus Elise 111R @ 198hp
1:36:246 Lotus Motorsport Elise @ 211hp
Since then i've become a better driver, so please if you want to beat these times knock yourself out, I would go faster too nowadays (plus spec 2.0 physics would have an effect), but the point is these were all set close to each other at the time, under the same conditions.
Just a few observations:
- The 111R is 5 years younger than the Motorsports Elise, and not much less powerful. I found the 111R to be quicker.
- Seriously try the Esprit against the Elise on any track and the Esprit will win hands down. Be realistic, the Elise is a quick car with awesome handling but it's not a supercar like the later Esprits were.
- Oh and for the usual Veyron haters, out of 150 cars I tested, the Veyron was easily the fastest non-concept production car around the track, at 1:26:907. To claim a Punto or even an Elise is quicker around the TGTT is ridiculous. Just check your speed on the follow through, and compare. And no i'm not a Veyron fanboy but use that facile response if you wish
- Final point, I didn't try any other 90s Esprits but some if not all of these also develop 350hp+ so may actually be quicker than the 350 Sport.
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The "Veyron-hating" was meant in jest more than anything else. The Veyron is actually a monster when tuned but not upgraded (save for Sport Soft tires).
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Yeah sorry I can see how my post may have seemed a little humourless itself 
I just find it funny how the Veyron gets such a bad time in these forums, when it's still an awesomely fast car, and I would argue the quickest road car in GT5 on the majority of tracks, if not all. It's still 3rd or 4th (I forget which offhand) on the Top Gear power lap leaderboard for a reason, and none of the cars that beat it are in GT5.
Anyway I started a mini-rant about people's unreasonable expectations of the Veyron in GT5, but this isn't the place for that
I just find it funny how the Veyron gets such a bad time in these forums, when it's still an awesomely fast car, and I would argue the quickest road car in GT5 on the majority of tracks, if not all. It's still 3rd or 4th (I forget which offhand) on the Top Gear power lap leaderboard for a reason, and none of the cars that beat it are in GT5.Anyway I started a mini-rant about people's unreasonable expectations of the Veyron in GT5, but this isn't the place for that
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Hi, I'm not on-line so I can "ram" all the A1 drivers I want, Have fun.
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It's hard to answer, really. They're all quite characteristically different. The Elise is a little go kart on NOS, and the Esprit is a proper supercar with a huge engine and huge pointy body, weighing much more than an Elise and showing it in the corners.
The Evora is an interesting inbetween, weighing more than an Elise but still on the lightweight side. I actually don't think the Evora is that fast comparatively, as pretty and fun as it is. In Le Mans it seems to struggle. Even in our ALMS GTP series we cut it because it just couldn't make up lost time on the 458, Ford GT and Corvette, even at full power and lowest weight.
Oh, I forgot there were a few others out there. The Carlton is fun for the memories but at least how I've got it tuned not great to drive. The Europa is a bit uglier but more fun to drive IMO. Not sure which is faster or better of the two, though.
The Evora is an interesting inbetween, weighing more than an Elise but still on the lightweight side. I actually don't think the Evora is that fast comparatively, as pretty and fun as it is. In Le Mans it seems to struggle. Even in our ALMS GTP series we cut it because it just couldn't make up lost time on the 458, Ford GT and Corvette, even at full power and lowest weight.
Oh, I forgot there were a few others out there. The Carlton is fun for the memories but at least how I've got it tuned not great to drive. The Europa is a bit uglier but more fun to drive IMO. Not sure which is faster or better of the two, though.
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