The Fastest Production Car?

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Easy.... its the Veyron.
Or is it?
Apparently, the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo reaches 256mph in 6th gear, 3 more then the Veyron. However the Veyron gets to 60 1.3 seconds quicker (2.5 seconds--100kmh/62mph) because of its traction control and 4 wheel drive.
But the Saleen weighs 1000 lbs less and costs about half as much. Which would you prefer?
 
That has to be bull, plain and simple, the S7 TT's (750bhp tune and 1000bhp tune) are options for the S7, the S7 is geared to go 220 odd Mph, it cannot go any faster no matter how much power you give it, it will meerely get there faster. It might theoretically reach that speed with it's frontal area, power and Cd should you fit tyre's that can handle it and a different gearbox, but the S7 TT certainly can't go that fast and I think tyre's and space are two things that would prevent it form actually hitting a speed like that.
 
Hmm then I guess I should close this thread... but how?
Anyway Automobile magazine said 256 mph, in the issue where they had a road trip with the Veyron.
 
They're probably working on a theoretical speed figure should the gearing, tyre's and spece be found to handle that car reaching that speed. Theoretically though, the Veyron can go faster than it does, well not even theoretically, it CAN go faster, it's limited to 252mph, but they don't want you going faster because the tyre's are unsafe over 252mph.
 
plus bugatti had a 1000hp TT saleen with them to show how much faster the veyron was to potential customers.
 
Yeah but they maybe only showed acceleration, it beats it a lot in acceleration, until around 150 mph the Saleen whizz past it.
 
lol the VAG would have been showed up and not done the comparison at all. Trsut me right now nothings faster than the veyron untill the sport versions out.
 
Well what about the Z-Tune? I thought that was the fastest.

But really if you want the fastest thing you can buy, buy the Venom 1000TT.
 
Except a Venom is actually an affordable fast car...or you could just buy Hyabusa and be set.
 
The S7TT can not hit 200mph in under 20 seconds, it will never gain on the Veyron, unless and only unless, someone finds a way to make one actually go faster than the Veyron in top speed, which will probably never happen and even if it does, it'd only be subject to the fact that the Veyron is technically acpable of going faster still.

The Venom 1000TT is certainly fast, powerful and cheap for the performance, but I wouldn't want a modified Viper, I'm simply not a big fan of them. I'd rather something not as quick but nicer to look at and drive, though some people may argue, that'd be the Venom then :lol:.

Oh the wonderfull wheel of personal opinion, it just keeps on turning.
 
In terms of straight-line speed, the Veyron is the fastest-accelerating and fastest-top-speed production car ever made, and it can still go faster. Period. :p

BlazinXtreme
Well what about the Z-Tune? I thought that was the fastest.
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Everyone always quotes that the Z-tune Skyline GT-R did the quarter-mile in 10.xx seconds, blah blah blah...but the reality is that was just a Z-tune prototype for testing purposes. The "production" Z-tune is just a GT-R with 500hp, suspension mods, and a bit less weight. The C6 Z06 is likely faster.
 
Wolfe2x7
Everyone always quotes that the Z-tune Skyline GT-R did the quarter-mile in 10.xx seconds, blah blah blah...but the reality is that was just a Z-tune prototype for testing purposes. The "production" Z-tune is just a GT-R with 500hp, suspension mods, and a bit less weight. The C6 Z06 is likely faster.
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Is it true that the Z-tunes came with track tires instead of normal street tires? I heard this from the grapevine too, same as the S7TT gearing thing.
 
The Z-tunes came with either Bridgestone POTENZA REO1R's, or POTENZA RE55S's. Both tires are street-legal, yet very performance-orientated. The RE55S is the grippier of the two.
 
Saleen's offical claim for the top speed of the S7TT is rated at 248MPH according to Car and Driver, as well as Motor Trend. She is fast, but the extra downforce created by the car is something that does slow it down... Unlike the Veyron, the S7 does not have the "Aero Mode" which baisicly eliminates all forms of drag on the car to take it to the 253MPH mark...
 
Elegy
Well, that was a bad source, then. :dunce:
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Well, as I said, those Potenzas are very performance-orientated, and are intended for track-use. They just happen to be street-legal. :)
 
But remember, Saleen's 7.0L V8 only has 3-somewhat-psi of boost. They can easily dial it up and make more power. The engine was designed with turbocharging in mind, so I'm sure Saleen can crank out more than 900hp if they tried.

Oh and for the Veyron......yes, it can go faster, but in reality, they didnt make it go faster because of tires, etc. So 253mph is the top. Saying "It can go faster though" wont really help, since VAG is not willing to make it go faster for now....
 
If by 'fastest' we are talking 'highest top speed' then these days its totally irrelevant - its a pointless pissing contest.

Veyrons and the like will never be able to reach these speeds on the open road and certainly not on any track. When the manufacturers get these figures, the cars are tested at high-speed bowls like Nardo in Italy, a totally unreal enviroment.
 
The Venom 1000TT is certainly fast, powerful and cheap for the performance, but I wouldn't want a modified Viper, I'm simply not a big fan of them. I'd rather something not as quick but nicer to look at and drive, though some people may argue, that'd be the Venom then .
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It still has a higher top speed then the Veyron.
 
Never tested though is it? And if it was, I doubt it was on road tyre's. I don't know much about American tuner car's like Hennessey's and Lingenfelter's etc.
 
I'm looking for info on their testing, can't find any. It doesn't accelerate as fast as the Veyron, slower all the way upto 200mph and no figures for after that.
 
BlazinXtreme
It still has a higher top speed then the Veyron.
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In theory but in theory the veyron can still go alot faster aswell so we shall not know. All that we do know is that the saleen has never gone that fast in real life.

Saleen's offical claim for the top speed of the S7TT is rated at 248MPH according to Car and Driver, as well as Motor Trend. She is fast, but the extra downforce created by the car is something that does slow it down... Unlike the Veyron, the S7 does not have the "Aero Mode" which baisicly eliminates all forms of drag on the car to take it to the 253MPH mark...
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I thought the saleen was famous for having the least amount of drag of all the hyper cars due to its coefficient shape.

Also in the vvmax mode the veyrons downforce is lowered but its still alot. Dont know the exact amount but its more than many supercars.
 
and don't forget the fact that hennessey/lingenfelter are still tuner cars. bugatti and saleen come with that power from factory. and i thought that Saleen uses new Z06's block in S7?:confused:
 
The Saleen uses a FORD engine.

Yep.

It's been modified, and they basically blueprinted it themselves, but last I checked, it started life, much like the 'Egg's engines as lowly Ford's.

I'm also just going off common sense here, but it seems to me that a car that weighs a thousand or more pounds LESS than the Veyron with the same HP should match it in top speed, given gearing and room, and only loses on Accel due to the huge traction advantage of the AWD system.

The Veyron really shouldn't count in stuff like this, Volkswagon hacked the gamefiles and used the "Infinite Funds" code. Let's see what would happen if Bill Gates backed Saleen or Koenigsegg, and even better, didn't say "it has to look like that, have this much power, and go this fast."

It's an awesome triumph of money over physics, but that's all. It takes the idea of the unattainable supercar, and throws a brick at it...a 253 mph brick, to be exact.
 

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