The great powerband debate. high torque vs high rpm

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Which type of engine characteristic do you lot prefer when racing on GT5?

Generally, there are two types of racing engines.

1. Low revving and high torque. Whether it be turbocharged small displacement or large capacity normally aspirated, or even diesel, these engines tend to develop the brunt of their power below 7,000rpm and have massive torque down low. Examples of these would be cars such as the Audi R8 (LMP) and Peugeot 908 HDI

2. High revving and low torque. Generally small displacement naturally aspirated engines that rev well past 9,000rpm, and in some cases higher than 12, 15, or 20,000rpm. These engines often make twice the power as they do torque. Examples would be the Mazda 787B, Peugeot 905, and Ferrari F1 cars.

Street cars don't typically have as big a difference, mainly do the fact that a street car revving over 10,000rpm isn't very practical nor suited to a car with a warranty, but it is there. Compare the LF-A to the GT-R or the Mazda RX-8 to the 350z.

I find that the high power, low torque cars are much easier to drive fast. The 905 is, to me, easily the best LMP type car and it is incredibly fast. But because it only has a smidge over 400lbs*ft of torque, wheel spin really isn't an issue. Just wind it up past 11,000rpm and listen to it scream as it rockets down the straights.

Some of the other turbo LMP cars (like the 908 for example) produce so much low end torque that exiting corners is sometimes pretty tricky. Same goes for the likes of the Minolta, and the Nissan Group C machines.

What do you guys think?
 
For my daily driver I like having something that'll pull cleanly from about 2000 RPMs to redline so I can be lazy if I want.

For going fast I've developed an appreciation for cars with a healthy mid range, but bottom of the range performance isn't really something I care about. I also don't mind if it's a high reving car, like any good Honda.
 
Well I'm mainly talking about within the context of GT5. I hope you aren't simulating daily driving on GT5...:lol:

ITS SO MUCH FUN!!! :D

But yeah... second comment applies to that. The tighter the course I find that having some mid range punch is nice, but otherwise I can keep an engine boiling just fine.
 
The problem with low torque is an absolutely horrific if not laughable power band. Although very high torque can be a problem (i.e the group C's, the upgraded Mercs) it makes up for it with a proper power band that is more progressive and generally smoother.

I prefer N/A engines with a smooth powerband, turbocharged engines to me are not very good at all and supercharged engines I'll entertain just because it does well in most situations.

And if you want a low torque high power car that is horredously difficult to drive, try the FGT. Incredibly small torque, absolute monster to work around at low speeds.

I find that high powered cars are generally easy to drive fast, but low torque cars usually require quite a bit of gearbox work. Whereas high torque cars can carry themselves and cancel wheelspin with a gear up.

Or just use the Sauber C9 and have the turbos spool up in 2-4th gear. Epic boost and an absolute dream to drive.
 
The FGT has problems with it's chassis I think. The Ferrari F1 cars have a similar powerband but are much easier to drive.
 
This is true, the FGT has an absolutely torrid chassis, coupled with next to no downforce in comparison.

Honestly though, my personal preference is just based on my own experiences with powerbands. I am used to dealing with wheelspin (using a sixaxis mind you) and if anything I'd prefer a good chassis, while engines do make a difference (rally cars for example having boatloads of torque v HP) I am in the camp that mechanical and areodyanmic grip really make the car. Yes the powerplant can affect it (the F40 for example) but the chassis is equally important and hence I really don't have a specific preference despite my former post.
 
Well I'm mainly talking about within the context of GT5. I hope you aren't simulating daily driving on GT5...:lol:

Actually, I simulate GT5 driving on my daily commute - ease up on this guy, draft him a bit, slip inside him on the turn, then protect my position and line... :D [Kidding, by the way. Mostly, anyway.]
 
I will always prefer a engine with a overall higher powerband in the rpms I will use 90% of the time. Power is the deciding factor. If im going to use 7000-9000rpm all the time, I will prefer a car which goes from 400hp to 550hp in that rpm range to a car which goes from 300hp to 600hp.
 
I tend to prefer cars that will pull hard from low & mid RPMs... lengthening the gears will blunt wheelspin some, and a longer top gear will allow a higher top speed
 
It depends on whether you are using assists or not. If your not using assists you definitely don't want all your power down low. If you are using assists then you want the faster car outright regardless. This settles it.
 
The choice mostly boils down to the the type of track your driving at.

A car that produces high torque at low rpms is a good choice for a track with lots of corners and vice versa.

Whether it's tough to handle coming out of corners etc should be blamed on driver skill, unless you have a car thats fundamentally flawed like the yellowbird.
 
In racing higher rpm cars usually have smoother power delivery which makes them easier to push to the limit. But in rallying and drifting high mid range torques is the best combination.
 
I suppose in the end it's all about driving style.

I just prefer to be at maximum attack all of the time. Much more exciting. Anyone driven the S2000 LM car? That thing if phenomenal. All my favorite cars are standard :(
 
I personally like high torque because I usually just roam around city tracks and low down power.. feels better? I can't explain it that well :lol:
 
Depends on the driving im doinG, if im just pushing a car on a track within an inch of its life i prefer a high revving motor that makes you work to be quick, the greatest cars i find for this is the Z4M, NSX MX-5,458, and LFA, not much torque, but drive this set the right way at 10/10ths and these are more thrilling than most race cars! But for drifting/hooliganing give me a big torque motor any day
 
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