The Junker Files

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I found myself sitting in front of my TV today, staring aimlessly at GT5, pondering which of my over 1000 cars I should drive. I realized I can't be alone in growing tired of the Lamborghinis, Ferraris, LMP cars, Chaparral 2Js, and other such cars that people drive endlessly. So I decided to start a sort of column to bring an otherwise obscure or under-appreciated car into the spotlight. I decided I must start The Junker Files!

'03 Peugeot 106 Rallye
Power: 106hp/101ft-lbs
Weight: 890kg (1962lbs)
0-60mph: 10.333
0-100mph: 30.336
1/4-mile: 17.771
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:27.299
Nurburgring lap- 9:47.392
Out of the box it doesn't appear impressive and I picked the Rallye because even in the small circle of people that bother to drive a Peugeot 106 in GT5, it's often overshadowed by the 106 S16 GTI. The S16 has a 16V 1.6L good for more power than the mere 8V 1.6L in the Rallye, but the Rallye is the lightweight homologation model and its motor is said to be more responsive. The lightweight diet of the Rallye went to such extremes that power steering and an airbag were optional. Now that's my kind of car!:sly:
First lap around the track and I instantly notice just how much grip this car has. I'm banging gears, railing the corners, and the motor is screaming up past 7000rpm. During all of this, I realized that while the cornering is excellent, this car doesn't actually move forward very rapidly. Or really much at all.
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I like realism with my cars, I don't just fully modify something unless it's for racing. I like to find what people who actually own these cars do to them and strike a balance of improving the car while retaining its original character. The car is already light and agile, it just loses speed up even rather small inclines. On a small track the car is fun until you hit a straight section, then it will about put you to sleep. I dropped in the stage 2 engine, ECU tuning, sports intake manifold, sports air filter, sports exhaust manifold, sports catalytic converter, semi-racing exhaust, single-plate clutch, and height-adjustable suspension. It's a good track day build without going too far and I found the turbo kits kill the free-revving nature of the motor. The extra power and tighter suspension bring a sleepy economy car with good potential into the the realm of a finely tuned track car that is great fun to drive. With the upgrades I landed a 1:22.126 on Eiger Short Track, which is getting into unmodified Lancia Stratos and Jaguar E-Type lap times. Pretty good for a little French hot hatch!
Modified specs:
Power 167hp/143ft-lbs
Weight: 890kg
0-60mph: 7.726
0-100mph: 19.334
1/4-mile: 16.179
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Now that's all well and good, but what about the dirt? That's where this little econobox really comes alive! Stock I hit a Toscana lap of 2:10.881 and the mods shaved it down to 2:04.250. If you're like me and you participate in sub-2000cc street car rally events then this should be on your short list as it's a formidable weapon in the dirt and a cute little ball of fun to drive.
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Hurray! Finally, someone else who pays attention to underrated cars...

I have never been a fan of Lamborghinis or Ferraris or other high performance supercars. I've always had a soft spot for underrated cars. It is very rare that you'll see me driving a supercar online.

I'm loving the idea of this thread, and I'll certainly keep checking back on it! :D
 
A bit of an odd name considering the cars don't you think?
 
Hurray! Finally, someone else who pays attention to underrated cars...

I have never been a fan of Lamborghinis or Ferraris or other high performance supercars. I've always had a soft spot for underrated cars. It is very rare that you'll see me driving a supercar online.

I'm loving the idea of this thread, and I'll certainly keep checking back on it! :D

Don't get me wrong, I do like to bring out my Lamborghini Miura on occasion (I'm more of a classic kinda guy), but I still have a soft spot for my fully tuned Nissan Cube with over 40 wins!:sly:

A bit of an odd name considering the cars don't you think?

It was actually the original name of a column I wrote for the first edition of the GTP magazine in which I talked about a rally-tuned Honda Odyssey I had. I just rekindled the old moniker.
 
Oh I just thought it was a bit odd as Junkers are the aircraft company or a Junker is a German aristocrat.
 
Oh I just thought it was a bit odd as Junkers are either the aircraft company or a Junker is a German aristocrat.

Haha, different lingo on this side of the water (although I'll admit to owning a joystick and enjoying piloting a Stuka on an old WW2 combat flight simulator game:tup:). A junker over here is usually referring to a car that has probably been mistreated, is rusting, or is otherwise either in disrepair or is sitting in some corner of a scrapyard. Pretty much an underrated and forgotten car.
 
Is it spoken junker over there rather than the German way of yunker?

Anyway on topic great cars I do actually love a good drive in a slower car now and again.
 
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Hurray! Finally, someone else who pays attention to underrated cars...

I'm loving the idea of this thread, and I'll certainly keep checking back on it! :D

You should also look at the 'Car of the week' thread in GT5 Q&A section. There has been some very interesting cars there.

Good job Op. Keep up the good work. I will also be paying attention to this thread. :tup/
 
Is it spoken junker over there rather than the German way of yunker?

Anyway on topic great cars I do actually love a good drive in a slower car now and again.

Yeah, we pronounce the j in junker instead of making the j into a y sound like in German.
 
Don't get me wrong, I do like to bring out my Lamborghini Miura on occasion (I'm more of a classic kinda guy), but I still have a soft spot for my fully tuned Nissan Cube with over 40 wins!:sly:

That's quite ironic. The Miura is the only Lambo I like!

You should also look at the 'Car of the week' thread in GT5 Q&A section. There has been some very interesting cars there.

Oh? I'll check that out at some point then.
 
'98 Mercedes SL500
I'm bored tonight, why not do another one? So next up is the '98 SL500. It's an older car with a lot of big brothers like the newer SL500, the V12 SL600s, and the AMG models, so it definitely falls into the forgotten category. It's basically a big black box with a big torquey V8, it actually screams muscle car in a very American sense.
Power: 315hp/354ft-lbs
Weight: 1800kg (3968lbs)
0-60mph: 6.244
0-100mph: 14.907
1/4-mile: 14.778
Top speed: Originally limited to 155mph, unlimited I got 175mph!
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:22.455
This car has a 4V DOHC all-alloy 5.0L V8 with variable valve timing, which means it has the torque curve of a diesel truck. It pulls hard throughout the rev range! As it sits this thing is a competent drift machine, the massive low-end grunt just cooks the rear tires pretty much on demand and you won’t even need any e-brake nonsense.
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Due to my love of keeping things realistic I turned on ABS and TCS both to 1 and used an automatic transmission. Around Eiger this car is nothing short of a handful with its tail-out tomfoolery that makes the TCS seem nonexistent. However, once you get on High Speed Ring it becomes obvious that this car was designed for the autobahn-style highways where it easily cruises over 120mph.

For the upgrades I didn’t find much in the way of people dropping weight (especially not the 400lbs the stage 1 reduction gives) so we’ll have to leave that alone. For the suspension I dropped the car with the height-adjustable kit. The good news is that there are loads of performance parts for these cars so I saw fit to give it the stage 2 engine, ECU tuning, and sports air filter for 400hp/420ft-lbs. There are also supercharger kits available that produce 500 hp, so using the aforementioned upgrades with the supercharger, sports exhaust manifold, and sports catalytic converter will net 501hp/568ft-lbs (warning: all of the exhausts sound terrible, stock still has the meaty grunt I like).
Modified Specs:
Power: 501hp/568ft-lbs
Weight: 1800kg
0-60mph: 5.489
0-100mph: 10.743
1/4-mile: 13.576
Top speed: 204mph
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:19.211
The numbers tell the story, this is a full weight car that isn’t even fully upgraded and it’s still putting up those kinds of numbers. This “baby Benz” is capable of hitting 200mph in under 4400 meters! The power is nothing short of animalistic and the onslaught is just pure savagery. If you want to look like a Russian mobster at over 200mph then this car is for you!
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As a side note, the front and rear of that car were both lowered 5mm. It pulls that hard! I threw racing softs on it for that picture (cut the 0-60mph time to 3.701 seconds) just to illustrate how hard that car is yanking that front end into the air.
 
Nice. I love that car. Funny that I have an almost identical pic of my 106 at Toscana. Good to see that someone drives other things other than Aventadors, GTR's and extremely tuned sports cars.
 
Don't get me wrong, I do like to bring out my Lamborghini Miura on occasion (I'm more of a classic kinda guy), but I still have a soft spot for my fully tuned Nissan Cube with over 40 wins!:sly:.


I really hate losing to your "toaster" collection... :banghead: Your PT Cruiser is another one of your cars that I hate to see in a starting grid.

Speaking of classics- which 60s sub 2L car would you say is underrated?
 
I really hate losing to your "toaster" collection... :banghead: Your PT Cruiser is another one of your cars that I hate to see in a starting grid.

Speaking of classics- which 60s sub 2L car would you say is underrated?

'63 Skyline S50

And yeah, the toaster collection if rather funny. The PT Cruiser, Minica Dangan, Nissan Cube, Fiat Punto, Honda Odyssey, and of course the Demon Show Honda Z Act; they're all hilarious, I love winning with them just because everyone always ends up laughing to the point of tears.
 
Nice feature of the Merc. I've never really liked them - but now I'm somewhat hoping one will pop up into my UCD so I can drive it for myself!
 
Nice reviews Enzo.👍👍

You might check out my tuning garage (see link below) and the Clueless Tunes garage for tunes of offbeat/neglected cars.:D

Also as someone already mentioned check out the "Car of the Week" threads in the Q&A forum.
 
Nice feature of the Merc. I've never really liked them - but now I'm somewhat hoping one will pop up into my UCD so I can drive it for myself!

Sent you a FR, don't ask but I have 5 of them so I'd be happy to send you one.

Nice reviews Enzo.👍👍

You might check out my tuning garage (see link below) and the Clueless Tunes garage for tunes of offbeat/neglected cars.:D

Thanks! I'm loving that tuning garage of yours! If you ever need some suspension work done let me know, I went to school for racecars and suspension/alignment was my specialty.
 
Sent you a FR, don't ask but I have 5 of them so I'd be happy to send you one.

Haha, only just seen your post now - I was surprised when I got the car! lol. Thanks! Just took it a few times around Eiger. Got 1:21.472, but GT5 disqualified it... the fasest lap it recorded was 1:22.577.
 
Haha, only just seen your post now - I was surprised when I got the car! lol. Thanks! Just took it a few times around Eiger. Got 1:21.472, but GT5 disqualified it... the fasest lap it recorded was 1:22.577.

Literally right after I sent the FR I did a race and another one popped up in my UCD!
 
'54 Chevrolet Corvette
It’s heavy, it’s slow, and it’s got leaf springs, a 2-speed automatic, and drum brakes. Perfect! I love this car because I can play with it quite a bit and still stay within the bounds of historical accuracy. If you’re one of those tuners that will lick your lips at the thought of tuning cars in GT5 to replicate their bigger brothers then the ’54 Corvette is a dream come true (my family has been heavily involved in Corvette restoration for many years so I have all kinds of info on the C1).
PD pulled a facepalm with this car’s ratios. The original Powerglide was 1st 1.82 and 2nd 1.00 with all ’54 Corvettes using a 3.55 rear axle. With the fully customizable transmission you’ll have to set the trans gears first then do the axle afterwards, and then just remember not to shift out of 2nd gear.
Power: 154hp/229ft-lbs
Weight: 1309kg (2885lbs)
0-60mph: 10.229
0-100mph: 27.420
1/4-mile: 18.312
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:30.083
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Now, let’s have some fun! The old Blue Flame 6-cylinder had an optional Paxton supercharger in ’54 (ironically the supercharger kit fits the specs almost to the letter) and let’s say we wanted that Saginaw close-ratio 3-speed out of the later Corvette. That’s a fairly simple thing to duplicate with 1st 2.20, 2nd 1.68, and 3rd 1.00 while retaining the 3.55 rears. Adding the blower and the extra gear don’t look like much at first, but the numbers tell the story of the huge difference they make.
Power: 189hp/310ft-lbs
Weight: 1309kg
0-60mph: 7.675
0-100mph: 20.457
1/4-mile: 16.206
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:26.386
Well that’s all fine and dandy, but since the ’55 was virtually identical how about that 265 V8? First we need to account for the much better weight distribution by doing the stage 2 weight reduction then adding 169kg to the very rear of the car to replicate the 52/48 split. For the increased power install the ECU tuning, sports air filter, sports catalytic converter, and semi-racing exhaust which will put both the power and torque almost dead on.
Power 195hp/257ft-lbs
Weight: 1320kg (2910lbs)
0-60mph: 7.951
0-100mph: 20.855
1/4-mile: 16.428
Surprise! The supercharger gives it more low-end grunt than replicating the V8 and is slightly better for performance given the same transmission. Well, as any Chevy gearhead knows, those small block V8 engines and 3-speed transmissions are directly replaceable with, say, a 4-speed and 283 out of a later Corvette. For the transmission you’ll want ratios of 1st 2.20, 2nd 1.66, 3rd 1.31, and 4th 1.00. For the power upgrades install the stage 2 engine, ECU tuning, racing air filter, sports exhaust manifold, sports catalytic converter, and semi-racing exhaust.
Power: 282hp/354ft-lbs
Weight: 1320kg
0-60mph: 6.170
0-100mph: 15.762
1/4-mile: 14.787
Eiger Nordwand lap- 1:23.201
Well with all that power we’re still riding on a prehistoric chassis. No problem, aftermarket companies offer everything all the way up to bolt-in full chassis replacements which can be built-to-spec per customer, so that gives us a lot of room to play with a fully customizable suspension system to make a neat pro-touring restomod car! To duplicate the Jim Meyer Racing system I used the settings of -20mm front, 4.0 front spring rate, 3/3 dampers front, 2 anti-roll bars front and rear, -10mm rear, 3.0 rear spring rate, 3/3 dampers rear, 1.6 camber front, 1.0 camber rear, and 0/0 toe. For the LSD I used 10/25/10 to simulate a posi-traction unit.
 
Love the '54! Again, never got round the buying one of these, but I'm still on the lookout and have been for a while. Great info you had with the Vette, you know your stuff! 👍
 
Love the '54! Again, never got round the buying one of these, but I'm still on the lookout and have been for a while. Great info you had with the Vette, you know your stuff! 👍

The stack of old Corvette restoration manuals really helps.:sly:

I don't know all of that malarkey off the top of my head...
 
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