The March 2010 Release date may be the best thing that has happened to GT

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You may be thinking that I have lost my marbles by saying this, but I think that this is the best thing that GT can have. This way, they will have a better chance of making GT as good as it can be (WITHOUT GTPSP!!!). They will likely have a better damage engine, and even better sounds (GASP!!!).

Also.... I have been thinking long and hard about the interiors issue. I also tried the Forza Motorsport 3 demo, and I have come to a pretty decent theory... In Forza 3's demo, the cars have the interior, but it is NOT fully modelled. The front view is all that there is in the interior. You can't look around with the R stick You dont even look up/down! To press up, NOTHING will happen, Press down, you look backwards. Left and right goes to a left and right view similar to the bumper cam's left and right. I would say that the interior camera is about 25% modeled. I bet the 830 "Standard" cars in GT5 are similar to that. The 170 Premium cars I bet are fully modelled with damage viewable in the interior camera. That is one of my guesses.

About the Forza 3 demo: I have tried it and It is ok... just feels like a touched up Forza 2, which is ok, but NOT the definitive racing game of this generation. The cars feel like they have a little more weight, but not too much. The cars feel like forza, which is good, but not GREAT... The damage is OK, but barely an improvement on F2. I may get F3, but im not certain. At least it has my car (1970 Datsun 510)...
 
Two things can be guaranteed about a post-March release:

1. Angry fans.

2. One hell of a ****ing game once it's released.
 
If we're to follow your thinking, it'd be better for GT to be released in 2042.

There has to be a balance between quality and development time.
Of course we all want a better game, but c'mon, it's been almost half a decade.

Maybe they should save some of the improvements for GT6 and let us play a little with the game.

GT5P is nice, but far too limited to keep most of player going for months like GT would be able to.
 
IMO this game was set for 2009, Sony were bracing for it, and then something happened.

It could have been FFXIII getting announced for Dec, something in FM3 they saw and wanted to add, something they missed during testing, programming issues, who knows, but something definitely happened, as all the signs were pointing to a 2009 release....Sony were talking about in their E3 press release as hitting this year.

But agreed with SrRd, it's gonna be a hell of a game when it's released.
 
If Kaz comes out and says they pushed the release to 2010 because of technical issues I'd be fine with it, but for now it looks like GT PSP was the culprit which is infuriating

But in the end I have to wonder, how much of these past 5-6 years since GT4's release have actually been spent on GT5? Throw in work on GT5P, GT PSP, and Tourist and suddenly 5 years of development time for GT5 is shrunken quite a bit...
 
Yeah. Just a sec. FFXIII is coming out this year for america??? Dang. Gotta finish FFVII and FFX!!! dang... Well... Im hoping it will be really good. I am actually taking a 3d design course and that gives me a WHOLE new appreciation for what Kaz has made. You just have to consider what they do. They make everything themselves and they make it pretty much the closest to real as possible. In my class we watched a "Making of God Of War (1) DVD" and they made the graphics in it seem like people saying "Oh 🤬 that is what gaming is gonna hit... and about 5 years later, GOW seems completely obsolete...
 
Was this really something about GT or just a thinly veiled way to pick apart the F3 demo on a GT forum?

BTW I think your first line was supposed to read "as good as it could have been without GTPSP". It's possible, but far from a garaunteed thing and not something we will ever be able to know by the simple nature of the statement.

Either way, I really don't see how you could honestly think this is the best thing to happen to GT5, at best it's the lesser of two evils... reaslistically, it just begs where the last 5 years went and why 3 months makes such a big difference considering how long they have been working on it.

While no exact date was ever given, I believe q4 2009 was the closest statement we have to an exact date and makes so much sense on so many fronts (along side F3, same time as PS3 slim, xmas rush) so if you have been going at it for 5 years, how can it be that 3 months worth of work is what makes the difference from hitting an awesome release date and just a "meh" release date...

Honestly it sounds to me more like they are pushing it as hard as they can and just to get it decent they are going to need at LEAST 3 more months.

If the game was 5 years in the works and the final 3 months of polish had to be left out to hit an awesome sales date, I would think Sony would say DO IT NOW!

If the game still had room for a LOT of work and Kaz really wanted perfection I think he would have said late 2010.

But 3 months? That just screams "Shortest time we can conceive getting the game decent for release before Sony has ****s bricks".

Basiclly, if you are going to miss xmas/slim/biggest competition by only 3 months, that's not something you would choose to do for optional perfection, that's something you do because you just can't get it done 3 months sooner.
 
I agree. And anyways I will have the whole summer to play GT5 and not fail my classes because I was time trialing the Nurburgring in the Audi R10.
 
March 2010 for the west and PAL will never happen because of GOW 3 and japanese developers are not good in doing worldwide launch unlike western developers. I just hope it will not be that late like December 2010. Worse case scenario we might still see this in E3 2010 being demoed. That will really suck by that time there might be forza 4 already or next gen console being teases already.
 
vannardini
If we're to follow your thinking, it'd be better for GT to be released in 2042.
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Nice! Just in time for my retirement!

Seriously though, how can you possibly spin this delay into a positive? All delays allow devs to work more on the game; that's what they're for by definition. The problem is, it wasn't necessary. If they would've done the right thing, they could've had that game close to finished. But since they decided to focus on other stuff, now they have no choice but to delay it.
 
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If Kaz comes out and says they pushed the release to 2010 because of technical issues I'd be fine with it, but for now it looks like GT PSP was the culprit which is infuriating

But in the end I have to wonder, how much of these past 5-6 years since GT4's release have actually been spent on GT5? Throw in work on GT5P, GT PSP, and Tourist and suddenly 5 years of development time for GT5 is shrunken quite a bit...
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Thats a very good point,and if Kaz and the rest of the boy`s over at PD could just concentrate on one 🤬 thing at a time then we would have GT5 already.
 
I dont mind waiting because i know it will be worth it.

But we need something to keep us going till then!
 
vannardini
If we're to follow your thinking, it'd be better for GT to be released in 2042.

There has to be a balance between quality and development time.
Of course we all want a better game, but c'mon, it's been almost half a decade.

Maybe they should save some of the improvements for GT6 and let us play a little with the game.

GT5P is nice, but far too limited to keep most of player going for months like GT would be able to.
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Comparing to some big titles, GT5 isn't that slow of a development (also considering the fact that they've been tinkering with so many projects)... like the likes of the Final Fantasy series, God of War, or Team Ico, which have all yet to arrive in this generation of console. These are very high quality titles so for GT5 to take as long is to me something that's not too surprising.

It just seem shocking to many of us because of so many stuff going on about a 2009/holiday release. If none of those rumor/hopes (even from GTP) were to happen, I doubt many would be this dissapointed. So yes, releasing in March 2010 is still very reasonable. Unlike some of the titles I mentioned, we at least have Prologue for taste, and that's something I appreciate coming from PD, no matter how limited it is.

If you look at their release dates for their previous games, PD is nowhere near the slowest developer in the world. For some reason, people just think that, especially FM fans. Just REMEMBER, GT5 is not the only thing they worked on for the last 5 years.
 
Best thing??? Yeah sure! My ps3 died waiting for gt5. Now my Sony warranty is gone so if something else happens I'd have to pay 299€ for a brand new slim....and this time I'd get a freaking 4-6 years warranty from my retailer! It's only 40€ or something.
 
i played the forza demo & was very dissapointed. the cockpit view is a joke, and the graphics are like Gears of War..impressive, but not realistic. After watching the AMG vid GT5 will go down as the best game ever. oh well....more GTR evo until march
 
hardvibes
Best thing??? Yeah sure! My ps3 died waiting for gt5. Now my Sony warranty is gone so if something else happens I'd have to pay 299€ for a brand new slim....and this time I'd get a freaking 4 years warranty!
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Yikes, sorry to hear that. How did it die? Please don't say YLOD lol.

Anyhow, it may not be the best for your system, but for GT5, what you think though? Best is what I wouldn't use, but for the better, I think it is.
 
I personally think there are a number of things that may have caused them to delay.

1. ps3 costs will reduce by march 2010 and improve sony's profits - because if they have another x million ps3 sales for gt5, they will probably also have a shortage for christmas, for people who want to play other AAA titles.
2. GT PSP - the negative feedback around what was misisng from the game over shadowed what they achieved. This could be the same with GT5 - so the extra time will give them the opportunity to add the extra features we are all expecting.
3. Forza 3 - I reckon that it may only take 2-3 months to add the extra 35% - however, the extra time is probably to find out what forza has done and to add it to gt5 and make it better.
4. Too many side projects keeping the car manufacturers happy.

They obviously won't tell us what they have done yet, because forza could copy and add as a patch - even though it would be inferior.
 
I think it´s because of FF releasing in japan in Dec. So MAYBE we will get GT5 sooner and FF later than japan
 
Rash-182
I think it´s because of FF releasing in japan in Dec. So MAYBE we will get GT5 sooner and FF later than japan
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That might be countered because of the fact that the Xbox 360 is less of a target in Japan as oppose to the U.S.
 
paskowitz
I agree. And anyways I will have the whole summer to play GT5 and not fail my classes because I was time trialing the Nurburgring in the Audi R10.
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lol i agree, i would of had exams in january, so would of probably got distracted from revising around xmas time.
 
We all presumed gt5 was 80-90% done and would be out in December. We found out the game (or the build) is in fact only 65% done. It doesn't mean they've more time to make it even better, it means it's just gonna taken them till march to get to where we thought they'd be at Christmas.
 
I feel that if PD gives us a game that can keep us entertained for 6 years then take 6 years to develop the next one. There are many people playing GT4 and I loved it until my PS2 broke and I got a PS3. I have played GTP to death and need something new. I was hoping for emulation software so I could play GT4 again.
 
I still play GT4 on my PS3 from time to time just to drive around the Ring. Seems like the graphics are worse when played on a PS3 even with the smoothing on but it could just be all in my head.
 
Quiet_Storm
I still play GT4 on my PS3 from time to time just to drive around the Ring. Seems like the graphics are worse when played on a PS3 even with the smoothing on but it could just be all in my head.
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I connected PS2 with GT4 to my HDTV once after GT5p and got feeling that picture is projected in resolution 30 x 20 pixels :crazy: :sly:
 
Well, they say patience is a virtue...
 

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