The only stupid question is the one you never ask

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Okay, like nearly all of you, I fancy myself something of a race fan, but I confess, it has been years since I got up at the crack of dawn to watch an F1 race live. And it has been even more years since I paid the big bucks to be trackside (it was probably the 12-hour endurance race at Daytona in November and the series was called IMSA not ALS the last time I was there).

And they say the only stupid question is the one you never ask, so...

What do the following signify: GTR, LM, FTO? :dopey:
 
I'm not sure about the others, I never paid much attention, but my guess is that LM means Le Mans. GTR might be Gran(d) Touring R(acing)? No clue about FTO But I'm gunna guess that the T stands for Touring again...
 
FTO=Fresh Touring Organization
GTR=Grand Tourismo Racing or Grand Touring Rally
LM=Limited Manufactured?
 
LM=Le Mans. Used to signify a car of the type that would be raced in the Le Mans 24H race. Most of these type of cars in the GT Series (I.e. those with the LM designation, not the R8, etc.) are fictional.
 
If the FTO you are referring to is the Mitsubishi FTO, I believe it doesn't really stand for anything. When the car was concieved it was to be a little brother to the Mitsubishi GTO, F comes before G. Or at least that's the story I have heard...
 
240Z
LM=Le Mans. Used to signify a car of the type that would be raced in the Le Mans 24H race. Most of these type of cars in the GT Series (I.e. those with the LM designation, not the R8, etc.) are fictional.

That's right. You get a prize. Good job on your no prize win!
 
Fantasy meanings:

FTO: Faster Than Others
LM: Last Man
GTR: Gran Turismo Retro (for Atari 2600)
 
Im sure FTO must stand for something... at first i thought NSX didnt mean anything... but it does ( New Supercar -X, were X signifies that they had no idea wtf it would turn outlike..lol... God i love them... *hugs NSX*)
 
FTO stands for "Fresh Touring Origination"
a friend of mine owns one of these, nice car. the mitsubishi sales propaganda had the usual "this will massive improve quality of your life" feel to it that japlish soft drink labels have, quite amusing to read
 
thats rather amusing... those crazy japanese, theyll do anything for a sale..lol
 
240Z
Most of these type of cars in the GT Series (I.e. those with the LM designation, not the R8, etc.) are fictional.
Um, what? Which ones are fictional? I can't be sure of course, but I'm reasonably sure that they were all either raced, or at least actual cars designed to race at Le Mans or in a similar series. I doubt that any of them are truly "fictional", although I'm no expert.
 
JTSnooks
Um, what? Which ones are fictional? I can't be sure of course, but I'm reasonably sure that they were all either raced, or at least actual cars designed to race at Le Mans or in a similar series. I doubt that any of them are truly "fictional", although I'm no expert.


no, he's right, many of the LM cars in gran turismo are fictional cars. In gt1 and 2, almost ALL the LM cars were fictional. If I recall, the only non-fictional one was the Subaru Impreza LM, which was really just a WRC Impreza (note I said WRC, not WRX)
 
Definiative answers:

GTR = "Grand Touring Racing" (turismo is Japanese for touring)
FTO = "Fresh Touring Origination" (note that it's not organisation as many people think)
LM = "LeMans" (a place in France)

:) :) :)

Check this for any more acronym needs... :)
 
Hmmm...so like the Camaro LM and Ford GT LM and such? I think I was just confused about which cars were denoted as "LM" in the game. For instance, the Viper Team Oreca and the Corvette C5R were definitely real and raced at LeMans. I should go through and see how many "LM" cars there are, because the GT and Camaro are the only ones I can think of right now.
 
Mitsubishi's official line for "FTO" is that "F is one less than G".
 
ferrari_chris
Definiative answers:

GTR = "Grand Touring Racing" (turismo is Japanese for touring)

It is acually Italian for Touring... and they coined the term 'Grand Turismo'

During the 50's, a lot of manufactuers would design a car specifically for the Le Mans 24 hour event, these cars were given the specification 'Le Mans', one famouse and wonderful example being the Ferrari GTO 250 'Le Mans'...

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... all you have with 'LM' is a lazy way of typing 'Le Mans'... hence LM means Le Mans.

GTO means Grand Turismo Omogulated, which means 500 of the cars had to be available for sale to the public (not that this ever happened much!). But GTO races were originally for high end production cars, so the munufacters bent the rules a bit. In the 60's adding GTO at the end of a model was found to be a money spinner... so it became a fashion, you had a car that was going to be raced by someone... somewhere. FTO was only ever used by Mitzubishi, it sounded good!

A GT car (or Grad Turismo) was any car made for long distance driving with lots of power, it was first coined in the 1920's when the 'Grand Tour' was a way of life for some people with money. It was considered to be fashionable to tour Europe and other places... even then, the car manufacturers catered to a buying public. GT cars were normally small two seaters, with space for luggage.. either as a large boot or with a rack, and a very light chasis and good power to weight ratio, and an engine that could climb the hills and passes of Europe. Pretty soon, as in the case of all types of car, some decided to race them, and a GT series spang from that. Again, the munufacturers realized putting the 'GT' designation on a car made it sound sporty, and thus was a selling point. In their defence, most of them were damned sporty and fast anyway!

The Ford GT40, (40 because it stood 40 inches high) is a classic example. Ford produced 500 of them, and then crated most them up and left them. They could be purchased for the price of a small moon, but they were for sale! Hence it was eligable to enter GTO spec races. That car has now become a legend... and a it did the job it was intended to do, it gave Ferrari a good hiding on the track. It was never intended to be a production car.
 
Cadfael
It is acually Italian for Touring... and they coined the term 'Grand Turismo'


GTO means Grand Turismo Omogulated...

You're right about the Italian bit, I got my wires crossed there. I thought GTO was Gran Turismo Omologato... :)
 
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