The Second Bite

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After completing all of the GT5P events, naturally I had a mixture of all three medals, but I decided to go and try the dealer races before revisting the races to start the gold-conversion process. Cleared all the dealer challenges, and then returned to all the events in which I hadn't achieved a gold medal.

What a difference a few weeks made.

Race B9 is an example. First time through I used an Evo 2005, and did I ever struggle. I just could not see how on earth anyone could come third, let alone win it. But I persisted, and somehow managed a bronze to my huge relief. Still, that was nothing compared to the mental anguish inflicted by A8, although again I eventually managed it.

After completing S Class and the dealers back I came to B9, this time in my Audi R8. I started the race and was in the lead by the time the first lap was complete and cruised to a win. Such a difference, but of course the R8 is a quicker car so I dusted off the Evo. This time it took nearly two laps to get the lead, but no problem at all, and on the second attempt. I couldn't imagine why I'd found this so terribly difficult in the first place. It gave me little more trouble than completing C1.

I could write a similar story about all the other events I easily knocked off and collected gold, or silver, like my old nemesis A8 -- going back to it bronze was easy, and a little work netted me a silver.

Anyway there is a point to all this.

If you're having difficulty clearing an event -- all you need is speed.

This sound obvious, but there's a lot of posts asking about how to clear this or that event, and for what it's worth my experience is that you just need to learn how to drive faster, rather than worry about which car to overtake, when or how. There's lots of good information here about going faster, or any racing manual will tell you know, and there's lots of talented ghosts to follow. I found spending a lot of time in Arcade helped. If you put the time into your speed that pays off over every event, as opposed to working out specific strategies for specific events.

The recent time trial also improved my skills. After leaving GT5P and focusing purely on TT, then coming back to GT5P I found myself going a lot quicker. Took 0.8 off my best time at Suzuka with the SL55, 0.3 at HSR with the Z06, and the dealer race for the Z06 where I had bronze and just saw cars 1 and 2 disappear into the distance I'm now keeping up with them. Silver so far, but I can see gold not far away.

Something else I've done is started drifting, or 'drifting' because I'm hopeless, only scored 5000 at Eiger with the M3 when the top is 25,000. But it has taught me a lot about how to control a powerful RWD car, and to correct mistakes that otherwise would see me spinning backwards off the track. Simply, I'm less scared off the likes of the TVRs, they're not quite cuddly, but no longer fire-breathing dragons. I see some racers aren't very interested in drifting, and that's fine, but don't ignore its capability for improving your skills even at my rather low level of sideways competence.

So, if you're where I was not so long ago and wondering how the hell to complete these events, take heart, it is possible.
 
If you're having difficulty clearing an event -- all you need is speed.

Really? :lol: Kidding mate, basically you're spot on! But.... I do disagree a bit with the following, in my case at least that is.... :

This sound obvious, but there's a lot of posts asking about how to clear this or that event, and for what it's worth my experience is that you just need to learn how to drive faster, rather than worry about which car to overtake, when or how.

I found it of highest importance to develop timing of when to overtake what car and with which line! As a matter of fact that is what killed the career mode for me, especially after I got onto online racing! The big difference for me: the career and dealer races a a repetition of a certain race happening (though this mainly applies to the "overtake all in one lap" thingies). Kind of like an old-school jump and run that you play a million times until you finally get it all right.... Your above comment stays valid, though, no doubt: no speed, no podiums!


BTW: you are talking professional physics, right?
 
Really? :lol: Kidding mate, basically you're spot on! But.... I do disagree a bit with the following, in my case at least that is.... :



I found it of highest importance to develop timing of when to overtake what car and with which line! As a matter of fact that is what killed the career mode for me, especially after I got onto online racing! The big difference for me: the career and dealer races a a repetition of a certain race happening (though this mainly applies to the "overtake all in one lap" thingies). Kind of like an old-school jump and run that you play a million times until you finally get it all right.... Your above comment stays valid, though, no doubt: no speed, no podiums!


BTW: you are talking professional physics, right?

Yes, pro. Is there any other ;-)


And you're right, the when-to-over-take-and-how is important. For exampleon the Corvette dealer race I worked out to late-apex T1 at the HSR and come steaming down the inside which gets me to third by T2, if I do it right. Right now I'm trying to get gold on the dealer TVR race and that looks difficult, but I've been in that situation before and as soon as I stop forgetting the thing turns in like a bus on an icerink the sooner I'll top that one too!
 
Can you please tell me - what are the dealer races, and how do you compete in them.
I'm learning the game - never played GT before GT5P.
I've cleared all the career events - albeit with std physics - and I too have a mixture of bronzes, silvers, and golds. I'd like to upgrade all the silvers and bronzes to golds, but some of the events require specific (and expensive) cars that I already sold back and don't want to buy again, so screw it.

Now, it seems to me (I could be wrong) that in the career races, you don't get the exact same grid every time - and therefore the exact same race - unless you quit during the race and restart. If you complete a race - or else you quit and then exit from the event and then return - the starting grid may have the exact same cars but in different positions so the race can't be identical. Not to mention that you yourself have an effect on the cars you are passing so that mixes things up a little as well - although if they are behind you they have no effect on you - unless you get slow for some reason and have to overtake again.
 
If you go into the dealerships next to the show room button there are even buttons. Some are dimmed out as nothing is happening (and no, they dont become available later or anything) some are highlighted and you can enter.

To the same race issue. Agreed Libre... with the classical but: Try to get gold (or any pot to start with :lol:) with professional physics in the nemesis S7, S10 etc. and you will soon discover what I'm talking about. It goes like this: 1 lap or 5 lap race doesnt even make a difference: one small mistake => restart => same grid, same crap / one small mistake => restart => need I continue? Sure, you can finish the races and enjoy a fresh grid the next race around. But I'd bet you a couple of cases of beer you're going to be wearing your pause/start buttons down sooner or later!

On a side note: with my skill level I could not afford a single tiny mistake (some Gents in here could probably win easily, but the gold pots I've got in my shelf from these hard-core events where partially scored by half-vehicle lengths having me moon-walking and head-banging around my playseat for the rest of the evening
 
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