The SR-aw that broke the camel's back. I quit.

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Really started enjoying the Supra in Daily Race A after some practice, fun to control the rear...
Then this happened:



before: getting hit in T1 and falling back to P8 - standard.
0:00 Encountering a total **** driving all over the place.
0:24 He swerves into me but ghosts out - well done PD!
0:30 I defend the inside and he bumps me => 1.000sec penalty and SR- for me
1:10 He dives, ghosts out but somehow still hits me and gives me 2.0sec penalty and SR-

Bottom line: Got another DR reset because of total noobs bumping me around.
Just can't take it anymore.
I quit this frustrating **** of a game.
Please email me if the Penalty/SR system has been fixed.
 
Why even bother about SR/DR? Unless you’re a ‘Pro’ who’s challenging for the big prizes in FIA.

These days I just race online for fun. Strange concept I know. I’m more interested in improving my speed and racecraft than SR/DR.
Unless they're an elitist, almost nobody really notices the DR.

SR on the other hand, because it linked to players behavior, other people would prejudge if one has relatively low SR, no matter how flawed the system are.

In other words it's because of other people/friend perception and impression even before the race. Nobody wants a bad impression.
 
The incident at around 1:05, yeah it is the other drivers fault but it was incredibly telegraphed, you could easily see it in the rear view mirror, and it would be very very easy to avoid that incident had you used the radar, or looked more in your mirror. You could have swept back on the inside after the other driver goes wide because they broke too late, and then kept the position and avoided the incident.

As you are turning towards the apex, as no point do you reduce your steering input. If you had, you could have avoided the other driver outbraking themselves.

SR isn't just about not being at fault for incidents, it is also about awareness and accident avoidance.
 
Why even bother about SR/DR? Unless you’re a ‘Pro’ who’s challenging for the big prizes in FIA.

These days I just race online for fun. Strange concept I know. I’m more interested in improving my speed and racecraft than SR/DR.

Yeah, I kinda realized that you just have to not notice what DR you are and just try to have fun. It's not a "Just ignore and it's the same thing" because if you are on a higher DR you get matched with better drivers and your races become a lot more fun/challenging, but it is what it is. Whenever you get a DR reset the first week is basically winning every race you play with like 10s from second place, which although it sounds like a lot of fun is not that much...
 
The incident at around 1:05, yeah it is the other drivers fault but it was incredibly telegraphed, you could easily see it in the rear view mirror, and it would be very very easy to avoid that incident had you used the radar, or looked more in your mirror. You could have swept back on the inside after the other driver goes wide because they broke too late, and then kept the position and avoided the incident.
Next time, I just press "X" to jump
 
Next time, I just press "X" to jump

The other driver wasn't going to make the corner. You could 'jump' out of the way and the other driver would still go wide and be behind you by the exit of the turn.

All you needed to do was reduce your steering for a split second, and watch the other driver go off the track and then turn back in.

You didn't change your steering input at all even with a lot of time to see the car around, and using the radar would have also helped the accident avoidance.
 
If a game gives you this much stress, you are better off doing something else. Judging by the threads you create you really don't seem to enjoy GT Sport.

Good luck and take care of yourself.
Finally I am understood... The point is, however, that I LOVE THIS GAME.
 
Finally I am understood... The point is, however, that I LOVE THIS GAME.

I'm glad, because it's awesome :) But you are full of frustration. As FoRiZon said a break may be in order. Take some time away and then come back to enjoy the process of rebuilding your DR, or to not worry about DR at all. Think of all the wins you'll get in the lower ranked races 👍
 
Unless they're an elitist, almost nobody really notices the DR.

SR on the other hand, because it linked to players behavior, other people would prejudge if one has relatively low SR, no matter how flawed the system are.

In other words it's because of other people/friend perception and impression even before the race. Nobody wants a bad impression.

Elitism?

Um...The DR and SR is what the matchmaking is based on. If someone is an amazing driver, but a DR E, they'll not be paired with players of the same quality (maybe that's the intent?). Same goes for SR. As you go down the SR scale, the races are less tolerable.

It's far from an elitism issue. Having one's SR and DR drop results in a much less enjoyable experience.

Finally I am understood... The point is, however, that I LOVE THIS GAME.

Playing devil's advocate, you could see that guy coming and you still decided that you were entitled to the corners where you should have expected full well that contact would have occurred. It wasn't very defensive on your part.

That said, I do believe that this is another case in regards to the max penalties that I have been lobbying for. Since the max penalties are so minor, people are making lunge moves without fear. Whether or not you should have moved out of the way is a side issue compared to whether or not the other guy should have felt confident in making those moves.
 
**** this game. **** this site. **** this double post.
finally getting banned so I waste no more time on this!

Maybe it was your limited FOV! :lol:

raw
 
Elitism?

Um...The DR and SR is what the matchmaking is based on. If someone is an amazing driver, but a DR E, they'll not be paired with players of the same quality (maybe that's the intent?). Same goes for SR. As you go down the SR scale, the races are less tolerable.
DR mostly referred to skill, thus how quick you could handle the car. SR referred to how you behave, atleast what the game wants to be.

I agree that the races are also less tolerable. Undeserved low DR could be recovered by just blast off the low DR opponents. Undeserved SR though it's a little difficult. You have to battle those imbeciles and you pray that the SR will count towards you.

I meant is that the bragging rights comes into play with these DR/SR as well. If anyone see someone with low DR, people either wants to see them grow better or just treated them as a traffic or nuisance (the latter I called elitist).

If anyone sees someone with low SR though, most people would assume it'll be a bad news for them to play with such score, even without the clear explanation on why exactly.

Remember that this scores are visible on each profile with no way of hiding it. Thus it'll carry on the lobbies if people cared enough to view each profiles.

Best solution I proposed is to implement a leveling cap. Example if one people does a very screwed behavior, instead of dropping the SR straight from A to D for one race, it'll instead drop to B, then C for next race with same behavior, then D, etc. 2-3 times with same bad behavior at certain time frame will net you a temporary ban from sport mode. Same for increasing levels and also for DR (albeit not the ban part).
 
Best solution I proposed is to implement a leveling cap. Example if one people does a very screwed behavior, instead of dropping the SR straight from A to D for one race, it'll instead drop to B, then C for next race with same behavior, then D, etc. 2-3 times with same bad behavior at certain time frame will net you a temporary ban from sport mode. Same for increasing levels and also for DR (albeit not the ban part).

That's what happens now (with the exception of the ban). It's almost like you haven't played Sport Mode.

If you do 2 things that garner 4-5 second penalties, you'll go to A. Do that again, you'll go to B, etc, etc. Most people simply drop to the cusp of A and S, stay out of trouble for one race, and replenish the S.

I would prefer to see the opposite. Big impacts get major penalties (10+ seconds) and at least 2 tiers of SR drop if not a complete reset.
 
Really started enjoying the Supra in Daily Race A after some practice, fun to control the rear...
Then this happened:



before: getting hit in T1 and falling back to P8 - standard.
0:00 Encountering a total **** driving all over the place.
0:24 He swerves into me but ghosts out - well done PD!
0:30 I defend the inside and he bumps me => 1.000sec penalty and SR- for me
1:10 He dives, ghosts out but somehow still hits me and gives me 2.0sec penalty and SR-

Bottom line: Got another DR reset because of total noobs bumping me around.
Just can't take it anymore.
I quit this frustrating **** of a game.
Please email me if the Penalty/SR system has been fixed.

My suggestion for you would be to be far more defensive than you currently are.

No offense, but from what I've seen from a few of your videos in these circumstances is you taking your regular racing line, turning in to the apex, and crossing fingers.

When you have a car that you suspect will be looking for an overtake, really telegraph your intentions by taking the inside line early and staying there.
And that means not leaving a cars width between your car and the inside kerb.
The car behind then has no choice but to stay there, or try to overtake around the outside.

The incident at the end of that video is a prime example.
You were already naturally on the left hand side of the track.
All you needed to do was stay there and run the kerb.

All this leaves the guy behind is to punt you square on your rear bumper, and sure, sometimes that may happen.
But he certainly can't dive bomb up the inside, and therefore you can't be caught turning into him and scoring an SR down.

Food for thought anyway. 👍
 
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Really started enjoying the Supra in Daily Race A after some practice, fun to control the rear...
Then this happened:
Bottom line: Got another DR reset because of total noobs bumping me around.
Just can't take it anymore.
I quit this frustrating **** of a game.
Please email me if the Penalty/SR system has been fixed.

I actually agree with you and have felt this way quite often.

The way I have made it bearable/enjoyable is only race online in Sport mode on my other account where I do not care what my DR SR is and if (when!) I get pushed I push back and damn the consequences. Also there is a certain satisfaction in educating these people on how to drive when I "return serve" ;-)

So when I race in lobbies or with my friends I still have my pristine AS ranking. Best of both worlds really ;-)

I should also say that I have given up on posting here about the flawed penalty system as it just will not change and so it saves my even more heartache.

As a side note: now when my SR DR gets reset I end up having more poles, wins and fastest laps so there is even a bonus to be had ;-)
 
It sounds like the SR system needs more "points" between levels to truly reflect the driver, similar to the DR system. That way if something like this happens to you occasionally it won't cause your rating to drop drastically, but for a driver who initiates these scenarios they can't just run a clean race or two from the back of the pack to fix their SR like they can now.
 
SR is way too easy to get in the S IMO. In the daily a or b with the gr4 scirocco, I was in the mid pack that turned in to bumbercar race. Lost my cool, yes sorry about that. Dropped from SR:S 99 to SR:B 61. It took 3 races to get back to SR:S 99. Just to show, that you can be a dick, and recover fast back to gentleman. Just plain stupid. High SR:S should be 999, and fast down, slow up. Yes, innocent players will get wrongly dropped at the beginning,
but it will level at given time to better racing.

And for OP, just take time off. And then practice the race craft. Youll soon discover 6th sense with the radar. :cheers:
 
**** this game. **** this site. **** this double post.
finally getting banned so I waste no more time on this!
Why get banned though. Just dont come here and dont play the game for now. You dont have to get yourself banned. Have some will power and do something you enjoy. This is the endless thread that keeps coming up. The penelty system. I dont know, I just play and deal with it. I race sailboats and we have a penalty system. At the end of the race(usually back at the clubhouse) you can protest the penalty. You get a penalty flag and if you want you can raise a protest flag. Highly time consuming though for this game. Maybe they even do it in fia, I have no idea. Just a thought.
 
Why get banned though. Just dont come here and dont play the game for now. You dont have to get yourself banned. Have some will power and do something you enjoy. This is the endless thread that keeps coming up. The penelty system. I dont know, I just play and deal with it. I race sailboats and we have a penalty system. At the end of the race(usually back at the clubhouse) you can protest the penalty. You get a penalty flag and if you want you can raise a protest flag. Highly time consuming though for this game. Maybe they even do it in fia, I have no idea. Just a thought.

What in the world would you get a sailing penalty for? I’m genuinely curious, I would have never thought a penalty could be had in sailing. :)
 
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