The TVR Speed 12... taming the beast?

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After finally getting my Rosso TVR Speed 12, I have decided that I need to be able to get the most out of it, yet have drawn a blank so far...:banghead:

I can get a decent top speed out of it, but as for using it in any semi-decent race series, it is a bit of a pig to handle, and wondered if there was any magic formulas around for taming the beast...

Any help would be most appreciated...

Thanks,

TM
 

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The Speed 12 is all about throttle control. Use the right analog stick, and use it gently... very gently.

That being said, I haven't tamed it either.
 
Hmm, i've never really driven the Speed 12 in GT3, i used to love it in GT2. Maybe I should give it a go.

I bet it tears up tyres though.
 
In any configuration, the Speed 12 demands proper throttle control. However with that garnered and under control, this car is like bringing a bazooka to knife fight.

Often called "point and squirt" method of driving, it's speed deceives you as you are usually travelling much faster than you realize. Therefore, early braking and moderate throttle control is necesary to really take adavantage of this car on any track that invovles corners.

Good luck,

AO
 
It would be nice to have some aero parts to increase the amount of downforce. I mean come on an 800bhp V12 Rwd car, without a rear spoiler?

Maybe TCS would help a bit?
 
Actually, the Speed 12 is a delight to drive.

If you're thinking of putting it into the PD Cup - i.e. as stock - then set ASM to 0 and TCS to 2. Best advice is to go through corners one gear higher than you normally would. Cutting the revs cuts the power, meaning that when you press the loud pedal/button there's less chance of the rear braking away.

IRL the SPeed 12 doesn't have TCS.
 
Well, I would suggest using a large scoop of TCS.

That really would help.

Its sad to some who have egos too big for that, but if tcs is in the car with you, although it might be crowded, it will make you much faster.

Other than tcs there is only one thing to do, throttle control.

Major control with even more tcs.

The tcs is the key for those of use who dont have wheels and pedals or those of use who use the old school buttons and not the new age joy sticks.
 
Would you car to back that up? There is more than one team using it in competition!
 
Okay, the first rule is:
NEVER FLOOR IT coming out of any sort of corner, always let off the gas, and accelerate controllably, so as not to induce more wheelspin.
 
68Cuda - as neon_duke said, not only are there 2 of them in the British GT Series, I've also seen 6 separate road cars.

They are a "production" car, but AFAIK available only on request, at which point Peter Wheeler, head of TVR, attempts to talk you out of it. They are "impossible" to drive on the road, and Wheeler himself said that the car "scares me"...
 
do corners in 1 gear higher than the norm to cut revs, floor it only once thru the corner.....
its basic, general knowledge really that can be applied to any high powered car :)
 
Originally posted by Famine
They are a "production" car, but AFAIK available only on request, at which point Peter Wheeler, head of TVR, attempts to talk you out of it. They are "impossible" to drive on the road, and Wheeler himself said that the car "scares me"...

If I had the money NOBODY could talk me out of buying one.
 
I just started thinking about another element of the speed 12.

The idea of where you apply the accelerator.

I think it was ving, but the post made me think about more hints and ideas about control...

I remember starting with the speed 12 in I think gt2...

Basically just use the accelerator only on straights and slight turns.

Then oversteer is almost a moot point.

Of course if you still get oversteer problems from the plain turning of the car you can put down hard front springs and soft rear springs.

good luck with the car.
 
I heard that you could only buy a TVR Cerbera Speed 12 if you were going to race it.
 
That would be a contravention of the EU directive on human rights. You can't say "I'll only sell this to you if you use it this way afterwards" - once the person has given the money and taken the goods, the goods are theirs to do with what they will.

However, the first ones DID go into racing, but there are at least 6 of the road cars out there.
 
I thought that the main guy at TVR said that, "It's not a car for rich kids, it's a car for people that will take it to the track, and still be able to drive it home..." or something like that.
 
That sounds about right. It's also why he'll try to talk people out of buying one - if you've just got money and want a flash car, a car as violently aggressive and brutal as the 12 is NOT for you. As Wheeler said, driving it on the public roads is "Impossible" and "Scares me".

If you're NOT a racing driver, you can forget it.
 
I can't imagine someone not using that car to it's full potential if you buy it...It is basically a racing car with license plates...
 
That's the thing - the TVR Speed 12 at 100% will kill you.

I drive my car occasionally at what I believe to be it's and my limit. I'm sure if Damon Hill jumped in it I'd be taken to a different level.

You or I, or some rich kid with a full wallet burning holes in his pockets just simply wouldn't be able to drive the 12 at even half it's limit. Think about it... 800hp NA, 950kg, FR NO Traction Control. We'd be sideways every other corner...

And racing cars have wings...
 
Thanks everyone for those helpful suggestions... I used to love the Speed 12 in GT2 aswell, but it was much easier to drive! I am dying to be able to race the Cerbera Speed 12 and win!

Cheers

TM
 
Yes, I wonder if the Speed 12 has enough downforce to keep it down if someone just floors it...:\
 
As far as I can remember two members of 'Prodigy' have Speed 12s, vaguely remember watching some documentary a couple of years back. As regards settings... haven't found anything to even remotely tame it so far. It demands 100% concentration.
 
My only claim to fame in real life Cars is taking an uprated TVR Griffith for a test drive. I consider myself... fairly good at controlling RL driving - but as Famine said, I´m no race driver. Anyway, I nearly had that thing sideways on the straight in 3rd gear. Storytime:

I went to a garage near Yeovil (UK) to help with computer network problems. This car was seperate on it´s own, in the corner. Turns out the engine is uprated for the race track, though not really used, and the clutch was a triple plate job - unassisted I might add. nice - I said. Once work was finished, I had to see that car once more, then I had to hear it. I had the money, if I sold my car, but there´s no way I was about to buy a TVR of this nature. So took it for a test drive didn´t I...! :O :D :eek: :mad: :irked: <<<< all those faces must´ve been seen on my face. the clutch is soooo heavy. (Afterwards I got back into that Honda Civic Coupe to go home and nearly stamped the clutch through the floor! bang):( The car was really awsome. I want I want I want was the music playing in my head all the way home. But the car was too damn unpractical. The salesman who came with me on the test drive, shat himself. Whilst pulling away from the forecourt, the driven wheels span. Did a nice osrt of "Magnum" style pull away - purely by fluke I reckon. Second gear, the car shoots forward and he says to me, "Ohh, you´ra a bit of a speed demon then aren´t you". Yup. I back off the traffic to make a bit of space for me to floor it in third. Backend of the Griffith twitching until the revs just got too high and all hell broke loose. Big smile for me, BIG. Like a cheshire cat. gimme gimme gimme. gets my addrenaline going again just explaining it. controlled the back sliding out a little to the right with a slightly less throttle, and to avoid the back end biting up sudden grip. After a pulling away antic at a small roundabout with clutch control (there is none - it´s too heavy) i looked to my left with my gazed eyes and biten lip to try not to show how much I was enjoying this car (I´d fallen head over heals for a godamn car would you believe) and this salesman was as far up the seat as his brake pedal foot could push him whilst pushing that invisible brake pedal in the passenger foot well. His fingers and thumbs were pushed out like he was measuring something with a span of the hand! :D Turns out the car was owned by the garage owner. He was selling it because he didn´t race it!
 
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