the worlds stupidest online racer?

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hi all :) not sure if this is worth a new thread but maybe you have similar tales to tell, so here goes...

i think i may have just encountered the most stupid online racer i've ever come across

i found him waiting alone in his lobby. the car was the f430 gt2, track was mugello

he's set up a 5 lapper and away we go. i got off the line a bit better and he immediately moves over to block me

aggressive but ok, i evaded his move and led into turn 1. im braking nice and steady, getting my exit ready

bang! he's full bore into the back of me and im punted into the sand. still, it could have been incompetence so i'm
still wanting in the race

so i recover and expect to see him waiting for me, but no

he's scurrying away into the distance, no doubt feeling very clever and looking forward to the win

could he really have been expecting me to stick around for another 4 and 9/10ths laps?

loony. i'm out and gone, goodbye :yuck:

i could have no doubt made this post shorter, but the epic proportions of his stupidity made me shake my head to
such an extent that its almost poetic :lol:
 
Paul, you act as if this kind of behavior is unusual. :) Why do you think we race in private lobbies? Granted, I feel that SCC has a good share of 'fair' racers and don't take to this kind of, let's call it 'obvious' abuse. And I don't expect most people in public lobbies to adhere to the same strict standards of conduct we expect of each other in our organized events. But having people who turn on-line races into a free for all crash fest is one of the reasons I gave up on NFS:Shift and Prologue. It goes on ALL the time.
 
I hate when that happens. I spent yesterday on line in the [HSR] and none of that was going on what a great way to spend a saterday
 
It sounds like inexperience to me, i know there are some prats out there but to be honest i've met some good racers on SCC more so than bad ones, but i think its because its such a small community that people who want good racing tend to stick with this game.

Being a small community its easier to make a note of who the crap people are too, so with a bit of naming and shaming we can all avoid them.
 
i know 90% of people think this is bumper cars, plz the races i have are great most of the time because i know who to race with i think,, just a thing that makes me pee in my paints when people think they can win a race at the frist corner,, myself,kev,and hailwood were racing 10 min ago the frist race me and kev were in the lobby alone he mad a mistake i got 6 seconds on him for the rest of the race we were swoping fasts laps like mad, no bumping at all, the next race more of my friends joined and other people, we started revenna i was in 4th starting we all when, turn 3 frist lap 7 cars smashed,, then myself and hailwood were last but we when through the feild he won i came second just a tenth behind him,, so we go to mugello sports things were ok,, then came infieon sprint,, hailwood and i started 2 and 3rd with guys not so fast but just to find,, them smashing us both of like we were toys,, why should we have to close lobbys just for PRATS,, races are not won at turn one but more like lost,
 
Continued: why should we have go private lobbys,, donlimpo13 also left but he has such raw speed, him, hailwood, kev are clean racers but we suffer.. this morning,, also in the C6, donlimpo13, Henry and i, were racing we had very little problems only one at spa were donlimpo13 out braked him self at the last turn and us 3 had bumps,, but at the end of 7 laps we were under 3 seconds apart to close,, every race after that there were 10ths of a second between us so close,, great because we can race,,the other day kev and i were racing monza 360gt i think dave was in the lobby kev and i had a cracker we pasted each other about 4 times per lap without touching it was a perfect race for both of us, photo finnish 2 one hunderds of a second at the end of lap 7, it can be done,, all you need is sum brains and respect for the fellow racer.. not the attuitted of lets see how many people we can crash into like sum have,, happy racing guys..
 
I know its frustrating Chillie. And there are various arguments for private lobbies, not all of them negative.

Keep in mind that there are infinite levels of both driver skill and intent from the people you meet online. And racing competitively at the level of guys such as yourself or Kevhead or Sarrinnen takes many, many hours to perfect. Even somebody who's played the game a few times or is slightly rusty may be caught out with an unfamiliar car. And the intent does not necessarily match the resulting action. And this is the trouble with an open lobby. There are no restrictions and it's really a lottery.

Now if somebody is purposely punting people off like Taxibaz or Kubica88, that's another story. But in many cases, it may be somebody who's new to the game, doesn't know the cars, doesn't know the tracks, isn't familiar with the play system, their braking points and even the fundamentals of car control. The face behind your opponent may be that of an obnoxious 11 year old or the friend of a fiend who's having a go for the first time or just somebody who means well but isn't up to the task. There's no rating system to prove yourself or work yourself up to different levels. When you enter a public lobby, you're stepping out into the wide universe where everybody is welcome. I hate to sound like a snob, but to me, It's like leaving the door to your house open.

FWIW, this is the whole point of joining the GTP registry and having a GTP tag in front of your PSN ID. At least that's how I see it. The intent being, if you race with it, you agree to obide by OLR rules and restrictions. (See here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111241 And if you see somebody enter your lobby with a GTP tag, you can (generally) trust that they're going to be a fair racer. Granted, I've never applied for one myself, although I suppose I should really get off my ass and do it. :lol: But I try and stick to the OLR rules anyway and those who know me are aware of that. One can argue, if people don't know what they're doing, they should run a few rounds off-line first. And I agree. To me it's simple etiquette. But others don't see it this way.

So in the end, it's for these reason that I generally prefer to play in a closed lobby with racers who I know. At least for my organized events. Even at that, when racing in larger groups of 6+, first corner or even first lap incidents are unfortunately very common. Look at my videos. It's often embarrassing the kind of argy-bargy taking place. The fact that there are no real consequences of running yourself or others off the road like there are in real life, allows all of us to be a bit indiscriminate at times and I'm sure even the more cautious of us would be long since dead many times over if we were to pull the kind of moves in a real car on a real track as what we do in our sim racing careers.

But of course, the other side of the argument is, there just aren't thousands of people playing Supercar Challenge. And you can't always find your 'buddies' on line. And if one never ventures into public lobbies, you'll never have the opportunity to meet some really good racers out there. Fully 3/4 of my PSN friends I met in open lobbies and recognized them as clean racers. So I think what it comes down to, is one really has to go into a private and public lobby with a different mindset and approach. Or you're going to come away disappointed.

BTW, Chillie, rather than do a double post, try to edit your posts and add more. The mods in this section give us a LOT of leeway but we should try and help them back.
 
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My motto:

1. Join your friend's lobbies if possible (public or private, at least you know who the host is)

2. If "1" isn't possible, open your own lobby. Eventually people will show up. But you're the boss, so the lobby will work under your rule (and your rules :D ).

I never, ever, enter a lobby hosted by a guy I don't know.
 
That post actually makes my blood boil a little bit JJ.

I had a few good races online today, although towards the end of my session a kid entered (about 12/13) and his voice was grating me and he did not stop talking. It was so high pitched and he just kept moaning about the car/track selection, but the host had no microphone and did not change the settings.

So i left that session and joined a lobby with two Norwegians, and waited for them to return to lobby. We then entered a race in Silverstone in the DBR and all was well until one of them kept on bashing me up the arse about halfway through lap one, so i warned him "please stop hitting me", he understood and said sorry, but then at the last corner he ran me clean off the track and it actually really made me angry (i was already frustrated about the whiney kid ruining my Virginia session) so i stopped my car and said "How hard is it not to hit people?!" and then they started laughing so i left and disconnected altogether. They were not new either, each had over 100HRS online and they had a team tag.

Seriously why bother racing online if that's how your going to act?
 
danjama
...so i stopped my car and said "How hard is it not to hit people?!" and then they started laughing so i left and disconnected altogether. They were not new either, each had over 100HRS online and they had a team tag.

Seriously why bother racing online if that's how your going to act?
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I remember back in the FC days racing a Brazilian 'team'. The team concept to them was to try and knock other cars, besides themselves, off the road. Although in fairness, unlike Kubica88, they were actually trying to work their way around the track while doing it. It really takes all kinds.

+1 For private lobbies. :lol:

And for the record, I think I know the kid with the Whinny voice. Really high pitched, sounds like he's 11, never shuts up, can't drive for beans. Although, I'm sure there's more than one of them. :)
 
jj i understand you point 100% most of my racing is done in open lobbys i mean 96% i aften race all sorts of people and no who to whatch out 4.. i know more and more new guys are racing now loads of new people i have not seen before.. look i give you 2 examples of prats, i start a race in spa, i start 1st i go through o rounge till turn 2 after the straight i brake at about 120m with the 333sp. bang this guy hits me so hard i landed up in france then he retires immediately,, i have bumped and rubbed people but its not deliberate.then now we were at homestead oval were herny, new soul, no reverse, plus a guy there, were using the gts spider were having a ding dong 15 lapper i see this guy on about lap 9 starting to do burn outs on the side of the track, hoping nothing was going to happen, lap 12 bang wipes us all out, we were doing fast laps,, 2 tens between the top 4, frustrating bro, its nice to have open lobbys for when friends want to join they can just enter.. it such a plus side i guess..
 
jjaisli
What's wrong with joining somebody else's Lobby?
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Yeah, a bit of that volatility goes on in particular SCC lobbies which I don't really like and I try to avoid those lobbies.

There are many reasons why a seemingly malicious collision may not be one.

In particular with SCC, the bad-prediction is a prominent issue. It's one of the things that disappoints me the most about some well known users, how they react so badly when this situation occurs - the moment they feel contact, they start shouting and swearing, and on many occasions I have been a third party to see it happen. If I get hit from behind, the first thing I do is try to immediately get a look at the position and movement of the other car. From this you can pretty much determine whether it was outbraking, bad-prediction, or a deliberate hit. If it's small contact, then it's hard to tell, although in that case you can probably keep on track. If it's big contact, then the other car is likely to lose speed, take a strange line, or even leave the track (easier to tell if among a group of cars, and you may see one car fall behind). If it's deliberate, then the other car will most likely follow you off the track. But the point is, everybody should wait until they are certain about what happened in the incident before launching a barrage of verbal abuse, regardless of who it is (a familiar racer, or an unfamiliar).

Variations in car setup, particularly with the ride height, affects the braking a lot. So collisions may occur under braking even though each car is braking at their own correct position.

Slipstreaming obviously increases the approach speed to corners, which may cause collisions (although that's down to experience I suppose).

Reduced drag affects braking, I believe.

The offending driver may be unfamiliar with the car, circuit or general game physics.

One car may have been pushed onto another under braking. In the method I described above, it may be difficult to see who was wrong here, and you are relying more on people's honesty. But the point is, if car-3 pushes car-2 into you under braking, and you look back to see car-2 in the gravel and nothing else unusual, then you cannot be certain that car-2 hit you, and thus, cannot blame anybody (or launch the barrage of verbal abuse as commonly heard).

The easy part is recognising when people cause collisions maliciously. I just make a mental note of the driver(s) and try to avoid them in future. If I do end up in a race with one of these drivers, I may race with the person, in which case I watch the car like a hawk to be able to form a more solid opinion (and if more deliberate collisions occur from this driver, then I definitely avoid this person in future).
 
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i have a name,too bad he chose is ID after a so brave sailor, that even named a entire continent,so for the poor sailor doesn't unrest his famous historical soul turning unseetled in his proverbial grave for is name is being used by a spinless moron who gives himself the trouble to join a lobby just to insult everybody's dear mums and a entire nation-probably by the geographic proximity the only one his small brain could identify- which is my own,i won't write down his name...but i guess by this time everybody who was in lobby already know him...:drool:
 
arvore
i have a name,too bad he chose is ID after a so brave sailor, that even named a entire continent,so for the poor sailor doesn't unrest his famous historical soul turning unseetled in his proverbial grave for is name is being used by a spinless moron who gives himself the trouble to join a lobby just to insult everybody's dear mums and a entire nation-probably by the geographic proximity the only one his small brain could identify- which is my own,i won't write down his name...but i guess by this time everybody who was in lobby already know him...:drool:
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he complained about the car at the begining..
 
Who knows the pupeye rim it goes like this,,,

I am pupeye the sailor man who sails the sea's of japan i sleep with my granny who tickles her fanny i am pupeye the sailor man,, hoot hoot,,

Avore nice one bro, lol..
 
Just when i thought i'd seen everything about stupid atitudes in online racing i could be surprised tonight by witnesssing(me and several other habitues in the game,someone who dares to lecture in this forum about rules of clean racing and discipline in the lobbys, driving backwards into the leader of the race several seconds before being disqualified (in a lobby full of people he races on weekly basis)just because he was spun and wanted to quit or some other reason whatsoever :grumpy:

This shows i think this person lack of respect toward is fellow racers...👎👎👎:confused:
 
I'm not sure if I'm reading that correctly.

Are you saying - A person who lectures on this forum about clean racing decided to drive backwards and then get DQ'd?
 
Thats exactly what i'm saying...:grumpy:

It was right after you left in the next race i think...
 
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Heck i remember being stated that he prefered misano in fc version...just didn't figured he would race it this way in a online lobby full of known(or unknown by the way) people...:sick:
 
arvore
Just when i thought i'd seen everything about stupid atitudes in online racing i could be surprised tonight by witnesssing(me and several other habitues in the game,someone who dares to lecture in this forum about rules of clean racing and discipline in the lobbys, driving backwards into the leader of the race several seconds before being disqualified (in a lobby full of people he races on weekly basis)just because he was spun and wanted to quit or some other reason whatsoever :grumpy:

This shows i think this person lack of respect toward is fellow racers...👎👎👎:confused:
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:scared::dunce: :dopey: i did not drive in to you arvore, i was going to retire and was going tose how is it tho other way around. i was cleear ly of the track when i did see cars comind near, shortly after i was DQ.

why so serious :D arvore this is the internet, unles you want to harm sombody with your coments.
 
Sorry, but "investigating" the track in reverse direction during an ongoing race is insane.

I saw that reversed car in front of me on the track - no collision but very dangerous.
 

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