The worst thing about GT5 is the players.

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Gran Turismo will always be a single player game to me. Online is a welcome addition, but I didn't need it up until now, and I still don't need it, so there's no chance I'd let it "kill" the game.

Random online players will always be a problem, which is why communities like this exist and why with every game released, new clans are set up.
 
It would be nice if it scaled experience based on the class of car you used. Kinda like A-Spec points in GT4.
 
Meta-whine free zone. Posts nuked.

Really boys, doesn't add anything to the thread.

Perhaps you'd all like to make a thread complaining about people complaining about people complaining?
 
The only bad thing about gt is the players.

I see someone complain because they enter a FGT in the GV 300km endurance because they are lapping Wrx etc and find it boring...

Gt has become about using the fastest car to cream the opposition.. Forget actually driving a competitive car and legitimately fighting for a first place... People just want to blow everyone away... So many threads about what car to easily win... Ever thought about buying the cars you like and learning to drive them properly?

Then I see people complain about the number of skylines.. I for one would happily lose all the supercars and have all JDM cars... This is what GT has always been about... Tuned Japanese cars battling... If you don't like this don't complain, it's like moving next to a railway and complaining about the noise - the skylines were in the game long before you... Actually there are important skylines missing... R33 gtst? R34 gt-t? R32 gtst4? So really not enough skylines.

Lastly, online... Everyone always just brings the fastest car... I imagined evos, Wrx, skylines, silvias, rx7, ae86 all battling but even when I use all the restrictions people just turn up in full blown race cars right on the hp limit and kg limit. I started a JDM Street Car race online and some w***** reckons his awesome in the minolta. This will become even worse with cash rewards..

Players online will ultimately be what kills this game... Everyone will be in the same car and most of the cars will be wasted. The slow (relative) cars are the best and most rewarding to drive... The fd rx7 and Silvia are too awesome for words..

There IS a difficulty setting.. It's in the choice of cars you use and whether you turn on the assists.. Try turning off the assists and using cars like the rx7... You'll get so much more from the game..

Sorry but I didn't know that there was a right or wrong way to play a video game.

I hate posts like this, people who think that they're better than everyone just because other people don't play the game the 'way it should be played'. Here's the deal, people have paid money for GT5 just the same as you and are therefore entitled to play it any way they wish, be it offline or online, the same goes with any other game out there. There is no right or wrong way to play it, if you don't like the race you're in online, leave and join another room.

Just to let you know, I play the game pretty much the same way you do but I don't feel the need to put down other gamers who choose to play differently and to say the worst thing about GT is the players is ridiculous. So get off your high horse.
 
If the online players bother you so much, why don't you just make a lounge instead? It's private, so no random person can join, so just invite some friends or some members of GTPlanet and have a competitive race. I'm sure they'll listen. I'm not going against you at all, but I'm just throwing an idea out there.
 
Personelly, I would rather bring a slower car and beat a couple of the hp monsters around a track and lose the race. Then bring the fastest thing in my garage every race and win all the time. It's about getting every last drop of performance you can out of a car, not winning that really matters. I'm actually a bit sick of racing with a few friends of mine because they bring the same 900 hp cars to every single race. It gets old fast. I want to use the cars in my garage, I love driving alot of them. I love keeping them pretty close to stock as well. And only really work it out to win a a spec Or b spec event if I can't do it without the work. Like my italia I fully worked to win the world championship. But I ended up selling it and rebuying a new one so I could enjoy driving a 458 italia and not some car that sounds and drives nothing like it.
 
Sorry but I didn't know that there was a right or wrong way to play a video game.

I hate posts like this, people who think that they're better than everyone just because other people don't play the game the 'way it should be played'. Here's the deal, people have paid money for GT5 just the same as you and are therefore entitled to play it any way they wish, be it offline or online, the same goes with any other game out there. There is no right or wrong way to play it, if you don't like the race you're in online, leave and join another room.

Just to let you know, I play the game pretty much the same way you do but I don't feel the need to put down other gamers who choose to play differently and to say the worst thing about GT is the players is ridiculous. So get off your high horse.

Totally agree. In Prologue we didn't have the private rooms option and, initially at least, everyone (myself included) was complaining about the window lickers who just wanted to play dodgems with you. It was annoying, it was frustrating and it might have made me hate the majority of the human race even more than I already did (if that's possible)

But then I worked out how to have fun with these "punters" that everyone was complaining about and all it took was a little thinking outside the box. My mission went from winning the race to taunting these dudes and trying to make them crash as much as I could, without ever hitting their car.

Brake-checking on straights, feint moves braking into hairpins, only to dodge out the way like a matador as the numpty flys past me into the wall...

It got to the point I'd end up driving slower round the track just so I could coax a retard into going for another hilarious failed punt.

Once you get a taste for it it's almost as much fun as good clean racing. Not quite but almost. :sly:
 
The problem most average racers have is that they believe absolute power (BHP), gives them the right to absolute victory. Well, I'm here to say that intimate knowledge of the intricacies are worth ANY stage three turbo.

Case in point. I was racing my Impreza Super Touring Car (~540bhp, ~1050kg) the ring yesterday, and I had managed to get past the destruction derby at the start, and found myself racing alone with a fully R/M'd ZR1.

The guy was a competent enough racer to keep me behind him, but he was nowhere near quick enough to completely stop me from besting him. On the straights, his car killed mine, and he could easily pull off and leave me standing in places, but on the ring, power like that is of little use if you can't turn corners.

In the end I managed to pass the guy, after forcing him into an error, and I never looked back. Every sector, I was increasing my lead by 2-3 second, and the only time he had an advantage was when he was on the straights. Safe to say, I finished almost 40 seconds ahead of him, I'm unsure though, whether he learned the lesson that day...

The point I am trying to make, is that I did not win the race because I had the fastest car, far from it - I won because I used a slower car, and intimate knowledge. Every car in the game is a tool, it is whether you see yours as sledgehammer, or a scalpel - that's what differentiates us from them. 👍


Yeah that kinda happened to me too, also with an Impreza on the ring :) 390bhp and 1256KG with max aero versus 390bhp and 1000kg cars. I got to 255km/h on the straight while they easily got to 285km/h, which is quite a difference (1 second on the main straight alone) but the Subaru handles so good and it was finely tuned so I ultimately won, even if it was hard because I had to focus a lot on getting the most out of the car on the corners without ruining my tyres (5 laps race). So satisfying.

Anyway... I completely agree with the OP. Yesterday I raced that American Muscle Car where the game says you'll likely compete versus Vipers with 550bhp, and I entered the event with my old Corvette C3, barely tuned (350bhp aprox.). I still won, and I'm not really sure the other cars were 550bhp because they were a little bit faster on the straights, but not that much. I think that "sadly" (for me) the game is made to be enjoyable by almost everyone. The licenses are a lot easier too, I think, or maybe it's because this time around I got a competent wheel, but I don't think so.

So imho PD should patch in BHP and weight and tyres limits like in GT2 or EVEN BETTER, the GT4 A-Spec points system. I didn't really play GT4 much (my PS2 died soon after it launched) but I think that's one of the best features in the game, simple as it is.

People would complain about the BHP limit because it'd be harder to win, BUT the A-Spec Points system wouldn't bother anyone, I think. I already asked Kaz over twitter to implement it, one can only hope.
 
The worst thing about GT5 is the players eh.
Totally agree. If no one played we wouldnt have any complaints at all.
 
The general quality of posts has not improved since niky came through here with a flamethrower two and a half hours ago. I've already removed severl posts with multiple AUP-related issues. Either improve the overall quality of posts, or the thread gets closed. It's your choice.
 
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