This game is being ruined for me

[Famine]

I was driving yesterday the daily race A with the Ford Focus, and was matched amongst other things with 2 GTP Members , Famine and Crispy74. And although the first of a total of 12 races i drove was quite dirty, I got matched all the 12 races with the same 5 or 6 guys the whole time , we managed to keep it super clean after the first crashfest. We calmed down and fought it out clean and respectful.

Yes, there was one Portuguese player who seemed fast but rather erratic - I was dawdling around at the back gathering data and passed him at one point when he'd had an off at the final chicane and then just decided to muck about. In fact when I passed him he was doing a handbrake turn into the final corner...

 

[VFOURMAX1]

The higher your SR ranking and your DR ranking to a little lesser extent the more chance you have of being paired with better actual racers. Also there are times within my region anyway that are best avoided as it seems to be more populated by bulldozer and mad max style drivers, if you are running into every race being a crashfest try racing at a later time period and see if it is better.

Also some tracks are more prone to be crashfest than others due to chokepoints after high speed sectors. Avoid the crashfest tracks. Last but not least drive at a pace where you are not driving over your head and making mistakes that lead to you being in positions you would rather avoid.

Regardless of ranking or track some races will have bad racers, it is just part of the race game for the masses. Take the few bad races and move on as when you have good races the fun far outweighs the aggravation of the bad races.

 

[JamesB]

I'm afraid the opposite is happening, at least on some tracks, especially Interlagos. I did 5 races there today in DR.B/SR.S and all 5 the same things happened.

People bunch up naturally at the chicane go side by side, cut over the green etc, yet surviving the first corner is just the start. Now there's 2 options when you're behind a group of cars going through a corner together at slower than optimum pace as that's not possible with 2 or 3 cars next to each other. You can:

A. Hold back a bit and aim for a fast corner exit, pass the last car on the straight and fall in. This is risky as the car you just passed likely won't give you any room at the next corner and now you're trapped.

B. Aim for the inside of the apex, cut the corner a bit, brake late, use the inside car as a bumper and instantly gain 3 or more places. As a bonus the car you hit will hit the car beside him and so forth knocking at least someone out of the track. One less to worry about coming back.

B will give you a single meaningless penalty while screwing up the pack with a very good chance to get ahead of them all. A will likely make you the victim of someone using B as a strategy and even if not, it has the chance of racking up multiple penalties just by rubbing around the corners a bit without anyone really getting in trouble.

Ergo, over the long run, the game awards bad behavior as a winning strategy. In 5 races today, every single race, B again and again. As long as the game doesn't make you give back positions gained after a bump it will not change.

There can be clean streaks as well where everyone is doing their best race clean. Yet what I have seen is that once it starts, things get worse first race after race with the same people getting put together again and again. Best to try a different daily race for a while when one is currently poisoned.

Can I just say, this is a most impressive and well thought out answer. Thank you.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I think some people have the right intent but just lack skill. The driver etiquette videos aren't the most informative either.

 

[PirovacBoy]

Yes, there was one Portuguese player who seemed fast but rather erratic - I was dawdling around at the back gathering data and passed him at one point when he'd had an off at the final chicane and then just decided to muck about. In fact when I passed him he was doing a handbrake turn into the final corner...

Yes that was the first of those mentioned races and after the black sheep left or we just had the luck to not get matched with him , it became clean and fair.
Edit: I even didn’t knew there actually is a handbrake. I leave that for the Fast‘n Furious company

 

[LBDN123]

Umm? I'm open to any replies, but if you start you reply with "I think it's just you", based on no evidence to the contrary, then we're pretty much at deadlock aren't we? I say I've had problems, you say you haven't. Despite your quasi-intelligent post, you haven't progressed the discussion any further than telling me to stop moaning which is, if I'm honest, a tacit way of saying 'please don't post stuff that I don't want to read'.

So thanks for your input, I'm impressed with your zen-like ability to ignore the numerous bell ends in the game and enjoy GTS.

With all due respect, there are multiple other threads essentially moaning about similar things.

I dont know why you just didnt title your brand new thread "heres yet another repetitive moan" and in the content section merely write please see all other threads to avoid dupication...

Christ knows What it is with people these days who literally moan about everything.

And anyway, having raced in circa 800 odd online races and had very little problems i have to say that generally speaking trouble attracts trouble.

For the life of me i cannot understand how so many of the "clean drivers" get caught up in so many bad accidents.

It really is staggering

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I was driving yesterday the daily race A with the Ford Focus, and was matched amongst other things with 2 GTP Members , Famine and Crispy74. And although the first of a total of 12 races i drove was quite dirty, I got matched all the 12 races with the same 5 or 6 guys the whole time , we managed to keep it super clean after the first crashfest. We calmed down and fought it out clean and respectful.
I won 10 of those races and the guys behind me really knew how to put pressure on me the whole time but they never went for a dirty move. I even got a streak of 8 clean races in a row.

A few days ago, i posted in another thread that i‘m done with Daily races and would give up on them. I couldn’t. It was the right decision. Just to let you know I drove a total of 652 Sport Mode races so i‘m quite familiar with any kind of behaviour on track.

From my experience I can only say that almost all of my races were clean, as soon as i understood which races to enter at what time. I mostly play early in the morning and late beyond let’s say 11pm. I get matched up very often with the same people and it’s almost like driving in open lobbies. We treat each other respectfully and have a really good time. What I hate most are people who drive honorless trying to overtake at any cost. Those few moments almost made me stop playing.
Edit: Sorry for my strange English I hope it’s understandable.

I had time to do the daily race C for a few times in a row and while it was not entirely clean, longer races are a lot more fun. I went with the Dodge Viper and basically had a separate race at the back with other people tired of the Megane/Sirocco group up front. We didn't get to the finish in time in all 3 races (DR.S Megane at the front) but sure had a lot of fun trading places with different cars with their own strengths and weaknesses. A clean pass after an intense chase is better than any win imo.

What I would like to see is DR per track. That way it can better match me with people of similar skill for a particular track. When I do particularly well on one track one day, I'm out of my reach the next day. Plus you get to see your performance per track and where you can improve.

 

[Famine]

With all due respect, there are multiple other threads essentially moaning about similar things.

GTPlanet has no upper limit on the number of threads that it can host. There is simply no need to shoehorn all comments of one type into a single location.

I think this one is fairly clear from its title that it's not going to be overwhelmingly positive, so the best course of action if you don't want to read "moaning" threads of this type is not to click on them.

 

[Potato_Head]

I think some people have the right intent but just lack skill. The driver etiquette videos aren't the most informative either.

Hah, those videos are just awful. I think maybe you're right; most incidents are accidental.

Inexperienced players + a controller (versus a wheel) = crashes. There's just no way around it.

The etiquette videos are basically "Racing is not a contact sport (which is wrong, some contact is perfectly acceptable in racing) and only bad people hit other cars. You don't want to be a bad person do you????"