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I was reading auto express recently and saw this...the audi a1

I thought to myself is this going to be another audi a2(rubbish, costs too much, hardly sells)
but i read on and thought no this could take the BMW 1-series off it's perch and if made it will slot in where the A2 left off.

Please reply with your comments and views.
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Its not gonna be a coupe and its gonna rival the mini. Audi dont need to build anything to build the 1 series of its perch because the A3 already outsells it ;)

Terribly dated and incorrect photoshop btw.
 
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Those two are more recent photoshops and follow the audi design proposal drawings more closely.
 
Poverty
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Those two are more recent photoshops and follow the audi design proposal drawings more closely.
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The first one is not a recent photoshop at all, it took all of 30 seconds to find the original article it was attached to (which is dated 5th Feb) and the following is an extract..

These roughs of Rabhi’s A1 interpretation are the reduction and adaptation of a much larger car he has drawn, which can be described as a gorgeous concept sport back Audi, something between the A3 and A4. Gabriel hasn’t yet decided which one he will model and render, but he does expect the final result to be far better than his initial design work shown here.
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Source - http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Features/article_2890.shtml

As the quote quite clearly says these are early design roughs, and part of a series that may or may not make the final design cut. This is no more or less accurate that the original pictures.

Regards

Scaff
 
how is the 5th of february not recent?

And the first pictures are absolutley useless cause the A1 wont have that rear trunk lip, or megane like ass whatever its called.

And your not telling me anything new about the drawing. Audi briefs designers what they want in the car and off the designer goes. We can get a idea of the dimensions and basic overall shape of the drawing.
 
Doesn't matter whether it's recent or not. They're all ugly.
 
Poverty
how is the 5th of february not recent?

And the first pictures are absolutley useless cause the A1 wont have that rear trunk lip, or megane like ass whatever its called.

And your not telling me anything new about the drawing. Audi briefs designers what they want in the car and off the designer goes. We can get a idea of the dimensions and basic overall shape of the drawing.
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The date an article is published has nothing to do with the date the material in it covers, last weeks Autosport had a piece on Rallycross, that does not mean the pictures in it were current.

Two things, the first picture was described by you as a "recent photoshop", which the article it came from disputes (it describes it as a "rough" which is an early design drawing) and would be far from recent.

Secondly if I am not telling you "anything new about the drawing" why did you describe it as a photoshop and present it as recent? The article it came from is recent, the drawing itself is not, your own source (which you failed to provide a link to) describes it as a 'rough' and the designer himself states "Gabriel hasn’t yet decided which one he will model and render, but he does expect the final result to be far better than his initial design work shown here.", quite clearly the designer calls it initial design work.

Scaff
 
whats that got to do with it being recent or not? The A1 wont be hear till untill late 2009 or 2010 and it will resemble the pictures I posted alot more than the ones used by the thread starter which are really old.
 
Poverty
whats that got to do with it being recent or not? The A1 wont be hear till untill late 2009 or 2010 and it will resemble the pictures I posted alot more than the ones used by the thread starter which are really old.
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The point quite simply is that firstly until pictures of the actual production car are produced you can't state categorically which are the most accurate, this is the point daan and myself have made.

Secondly 'initial design work' and 'roughs' are about as early in the design stage as you can get, and certainly could not be described as...

Poverty
recent photoshops
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..as none of the pictures so far shown by anyone have been dated, your statement that yours are more up to date and accurate has not yet been proven (which is what daan asked you to do), so here we go I will set a benchmark...

http://audi-shootingbrakeconcept.com/

..Audi's own web-site for the Shooting Brake Concept (2005), which most observers believe will for the basis for the A1. Any pictures that can be proven to come directly from Audi and be shown to have been released after 2005 will be more recent and accurate.

Let see what people can do.

Scaff
 
Poverty
If anything we should use the roadjet as the benchmark

http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/naias/roadjet/D060003.jpg
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Uhh only if you are talking about very basic styling principals, the Roadjet is far bigger than the A1 is likely to be...

There's something of the A3 about the Roadjet's exterior design, and indeed it follows the dimensions of a standard B-segment car in terms of length (4.7 metres) and width (1.85 metres). But the Roadjet is higher than the class norm, and has a longer wheelbase, the combination of which means increased space for the occupants of the four individual seats.
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Source - http://www.carkeys.co.uk/features/industry/2006/7800.asp

Regards

Scaff
 
Poverty
001__scaled_600_069.jpg

Those two are more recent photoshops and follow the audi design proposal drawings more closely.
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You see, the problem with that picture is that it is nearly identical to the renders released around July of 2006. How do I know such a thing? Because it was featured quite prominently the first two freaking threads dedicated to this car, one in November and the first in July. Saying that is from February is a joke.
Maybe that is actually the design direction Audi will go with the car, but that drawing sure as hell isn't new.
Poverty
If anything we should use the roadjet as the benchmark
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That is (pretty obviously) far too large to be anything anywheres near a Mini competitor. That's A3 sized, at the least.
 
lol its gonna take styling cues of the roadjet rather obviously rather than anything else. We are meant to expect a fusion of the nuvolari and roadjet for the A5, and the A5 will be much larger than the roadject.

Its all about styling cues here, and TBH I would have thought you guys would have known thats what I meant.
 
Poverty
Its all about styling cues here, and TBH I would have thought you guys would have known thats what I meant.
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In which case the original pictures (for the front end at least) did not deserve the criticism you gave them, given that this...

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...is close to this....

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...in styling cues. Same 'new' Audi grill, strong cues from the front fog light section, basic bonnet profile and lower swage line along the side. In fact the original posters shot from teh front end, looks closer to the design rough than your second Auto-bild shot.


However it was not clear at all that was what you were on about, as you stated that the A1 shots shown in the first place were "Terribly dated and incorrect photoshop", yet some of the basic styling cues are the same.

If you are going to critique someone's post and pictures at least do it well and back up what you say clearly and concisely.

Scaff
 
With the recent announcement that Audi will not build the TT Shooting Brake, I wouldn't at all be surprised if cues from that car work their way into the A1. The Roadjet, of course, will also likely lend cues to the A1's final design.
 
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