Hey everyone, someone might have posted this already, but I just noticed today that in the toe setting in GT5, a + means toe in and - is toe out. I guess with my habits from GT4, I just assumed that + was toe out and the fact that the racing suspension automatically puts a +.2 toe in GT5. There were some cars I had (C63, Gallardo, 300zx) that understeered like crazy....even using all the extreme suspension setting to counter understeer. That's when I took the time to actually look at the diagram and noticed - number is toe out in GT5. So what I thought was toe out this whole time was actually toe in, which would explain the horrid understeer I was getting I feel dumb but that might help some of you experiencing understeer. So when you get racing suspension, always set to toe to 0 first and take it for a test. From what I notice in GT5, toe makes a huge difference. I went from +.20 to -.17 on my Gallardo and it made the car handle like a MR should. EDIT: I went back and used a neutral toe (0) for this car which works best.