Tire Wear tips?

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So I've been running a couple of simple enduo's with friends. Daytona, 100 laps with NASCAR's. I'm gettng 25 laps on racing softs, the stock spring/dampers, 0 camber, 0 toe, lowest aero. I get the same amount of laps on the tune the car comes with. Here's the kicker, a group of my friends are getting 33 laps out of their tires, racing softs, fastest line. They won't tell the secrets and I have been running test, no luck.

Can anyone help me or point me in the right direction?
 
I'm sure the 0 toe and camber don't help

I'm pretty sure you would want some camber and toe...
 
If there is 0 camber and toe angle it would mean more of the tyre is in contact with road therefore in RL may cause faster wear.
 
I have yet to tune the car which is why my settings are at 0. I guess this will remain a mystery until I find that sweet spot in the suspension/aero/lsd...
 
If you have the apex book take a look at what they suggest for adjusting settings for the tires... I also think your camber is the problem.
 
Finally tuned the car. The better tire wear came with tuning. 41.8's at DSS, 30-31 laps on tires now. Thank for help.
 
I used to have + toe figures on my suspension when I first started playing GT5, but my tyres wore out very quickly, changing to a - toe setting has increased the life of my tyres by a few laps, pretty much on all my cars.
 
Toe will cause the tires to wear faster. Camber depends on the track a track with lots of straights will wear tires faster with camber and one with a lot of banked corners will wear faster without.

The reason on the camber is that on a straight the camber will cause less tire to be in contact with the road and therefore wear out the part that is in contact faster. In corners with camber more tire is on the road so the tire wears more evenly.

Anytime less than all of the tire is on the road the tire will wear faster. Imagion sanding a piece of wood if you rub the sand paper back and forth along the wide surface area staying flat with the surface it will take a long time to make any real wear on the wood but if you rub back and forth on the corner of the wood the effect is noticable after just a few passes.

An exception on the toe is that if the toe is needed to keep the rear of the car under control then the tires may wear longer with toe as the sliding could wear them out faster than the toe will.
 
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Toe will cause the tires to wear faster. Camber depends on the track a track with lots of straights will wear tires faster with camber and one with a lot of banked corners will wear faster without.

The reason on the camber is that on a straight the camber will cause less tire to be in contact with the road and therefore wear out the part that is in contact faster. In corners with camber more tire is on the road so the tire wears more evenly.

Anytime less than all of the tire is on the road the tire will wear faster. Imagion sanding a piece of wood if you rub the sand paper back and forth along the wide surface area staying flat with the surface it will take a long time to make any real wear on the wood but if you rub back and forth on the corner of the wood the effect is noticable after just a few passes.

An exception on the toe is that if the toe is needed to keep the rear of the car under control then the tires may wear longer with toe as the sliding could wear them out faster than the toe will.
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Wood is static, it doesn't move, whereas tyres are flexible as they're made of rubber, they mould themselves to the track. Look at F1 tyres, there's more movement in the tyre than what there is in the suspension.

If you only have a small amount of camber, the flexibility in the tyre would mean that the majority of the tyre would still be in contact wth the track whilst driving straight. If you had large amounts of camber, the yes, it would have the affect you mention.

Look at the amount of toe an F1 car has, if it was that bad to use - then why would they have such settings? Alot of the tunes in the tuning section of this forum use negative or positive toe. I've even seen people using negative toe between -0.50 / - 1.00, which is alot higher than mine. My friend uses high - toe figures at Indy and he gets 35+ laps out of a set of tyres on a Le Mans car (Toyota Minolta) with 900+ bhp.
 
The AI gets over 40 laps on a set of tires on the Audi R8 on Indy and I get who knows how many as I run out of gas before the tires are gone. On my FGT after 38 laps the tank is dry and the tires look like they could do another 20 laps.

Anyway the point is more tire on the road and less friction = longer tire life. Less tire, more friction = shorter tire life.


btw the toe on the F1 car is for stability. spinning out does more damage to the tires than the toe and crashing does more harm than having to pit a little more often.
 
I haven't done many races where tire wear is a factor yet, but I remember in GT4 the Ai always got less tire wear than I ever could. I would usually have to run harder tires than the Ai in endurances for this reason and sometimes I'd still get less laps than them. But it's my fault. I usually drive harder than the Ai. :irked:
 
HBR-Roadhog
The AI gets over 40 laps on a set of tires on the Audi R8 on Indy and I get who knows how many as I run out of gas before the tires are gone. On my FGT after 38 laps the tank is dry and the tires look like they could do another 20 laps.

Anyway the point is more tire on the road and less friction = longer tire life. Less tire, more friction = shorter tire life.


btw the toe on the F1 car is for stability. spinning out does more damage to the tires than the toe and crashing does more harm than having to pit a little more often.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that philosophy, more friction = more wear.
 

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