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ive known this quite sometime stopped drifting, thanks to touge no densetsu :) , but if you cant seem to get the car sideways install a wing and full force on front and nothing on the rear. i know its not realistic but it helps you when youre starting off and when youre good its so much easier and then sooner or later you can practice taking proper lines, then see how close you can get your rear to wall without hitting it. take off the wing and all you need to work on is throttle inputs and waylaahhh. other than that practice

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Thanks for the tip but this would be better in the welcome thread but as a advice, the thing to get in drifting is balance.
 
this is essentialy just the same as mixing tires, IE N3 front N1 rear, its just cheating, and its overkill sometimes on high speed corners. i havent tried it myself, but i know how it would react, and on high speed corners you would just spin, esp if your a noob.
 
I dont spin on high speed corners. Ive tried everyones setup for a few cars and they all seem to really understeer. I do this OR put N2 Rear and N3 Front and I drift alot better
 
Carl-h
I dont spin on high speed corners. Ive tried everyones setup for a few cars and they all seem to really understeer. I do this OR put N2 Rear and N3 Front and I drift alot better
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GT4 in general understeers too much. You need tecnique not tricks to over come it(outside of AWD cars.).

This notion of putting all the downforce on the front would make a car very unstable. Listen, getting the car sideways is cake, it's keeping it sideways and on the line you want that's the challenge.

Do this, go be ANY FD RX7(the ones that have a the curves) and keep it stock with N1 or N2 tires on it, go to your favorite drift course, let's say, Trial Mountain. Now, you're coming up on the first set of fairly soft corners. You want the car to oversteer? Simply turn the wheel to the right, let of the gas then turn the wheel to the left(for left hand corners). The car WILL over steer. The challenge at the point is holding the drift.

This is called the Feint(check the drift reference in my signature) and is probably the easiest way to get a car sideways, but also the most sensitive to control. It will teach you to be delicate with the controls very quickly.

Noobs shouldn't be using tricks to learn to drift, but technique. Understanding how weight transfer effects how you can control a car. They need to learn throttle control and counter steer techniques. But instead, many times new drifters are told to take shortcuts that handicap their potential. There is no shortcut to being a good drifter just as there is no shortcut to being a good race driver. It takes time and PRACTICE. It's always smart to see if you are using a good technique or get advise on how you're progressing. But to try to start in with a "trick" to get better faster is simply not wise.
 
Swift is right, there is no fast way to learn how to drift. Practice is key for any type of racing in GT4. You can't expect to become the best drifter overnight. Stick to Swift's advice and you could really become a pretty well known drifter here in time.
 
In my opinion, the only time you should mix tyres is for a AWD car.
There is no need for them on anything else.
 
exactly, i used to mix tyre types on all my car, i found i was spinning a lot so read the drift guide (great work by the way Boundary Layer and Swift 👍 ) i now use n2's all round for all of my drift cars.
 
swift, I read your guide and setup the S2000 as you did but I could not get the car to drift well at all. I put n3 on the front and could do it all day long. I dont like using downforce because if you snake coming off a fast corner its almost impossible to control. I started drifting with a rx7 yesterday and if I can get feint right can control the drift quite well. I still need alot of practice on feint though as I turn right too late so when I turn left Im off the racing line. On a left hand corner I stick to the left of the track turn to the right and try to stick to the grip line, is this the right way?

also my favorite track for drift is currently 'apricot hill raceway' I just love all thos looong corners. Once ive got the drift I can hold it at a good angle for a long time but can I ask, how would I get the car -on a left hand corner- to get closer to the apex while in drift?
If I take my anngle too far how do I recover. Ive been doing this is the blitz skyline
 
Please don't double post like that. Just edit your prior post.

I think there's something missing from the description of your technique (first post). Certainly you don't turn right when coming in on a left hand turn. You might feint by flicking right and then turning left... maybe correct that and add in a few more details.


That S2000 you mention was tuned by me on a DFP. If you're using a DS2 instead of a wheel you might need to loosen the lsd settings a little to get it to drift comfortably.
 
I consider myself to be quite hopeless at drifting on GT4, but I bought an RUF BTR '86(?) last night, took it to Apricot Hill and dang, it's like a dream come true.

Seriously, anyone who's not completely new, put this car on S1s (that's what I found best anyway) and give it a little more power if need be, not too much though. Anyway, I was about to search for a thread on RR drift technique. Because giving more power to the rear wheels seems to stabilise the rear end, I could do with a lesson or two on how to keep a drift going longer, heh.

edit: I use a DS2, by the way
 
When I first started playing GT4 (played GT3 to death bare in mind) I mixed the tires to make the car easier to slip(theres a bigger learn curve in GT4 then there was in 3 thus why I did this), I.E Racing Hard in the rear and Softs up front, although I 40% of the time I was drifting (meaning, I'm counter stearing and the tires are spining but still giving me momentem through a turn) but 60% of the time I was just power sliding the car (E brake) and half way through the slide I'd gas it so the tires spin and I drift outa of the turn, which isn't exactly the drifting I'm used to seeing. I was getting by on those techniques, get a lot of angle but In the back of my mind I'm thinking "When I watch my friends drift at car meets and such, they don't use those techniques" so I started to use real life techniques, and the feints seemed to be the best thing to do in this game to get a drift started, but I found it harder than hell to not spin out the car, or hold the drift with RS/RH tires at high angles, but that's for obvious reasons. So I got curious and looked on here to see what tires you guys used, and everyone seems to be head strong on the N2's, after some tunning and a lot of getting used to, I can initiate a drift at a start of a turn with a feint, drifting through the turn, no throtle at the end, feint the car into the next turn, throtle hard and drift the next turn, which more is true to drifting than what I was doing before..just my thoughts what you do to drift is all up to you, but that's what happened to me.
 
I'm still struggling with those N2 tyres, most of the time they're way to slippery for me, corners are awesome bt my straight line manuevers are more than pathetic, I'm finding that staggered sports tyres (soft/hard)with enough HP to break them loose does the trick for me.
 
Pagan_2k
I'm still struggling with those N2 tyres, most of the time they're way to slippery for me, corners are awesome bt my straight line manuevers are more than pathetic, I'm finding that staggered sports tyres (soft/hard)with enough HP to break them loose does the trick for me.
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From your other posts I know that you're drifting either an S2000 or the Trueno. In either case, mixing tires is very NOT necessary.

BTW, what do you mean straight line maneuvers?
 
I actually think you're right about mixing the tyres(well, obviously-you're the experts), maybe its just force of habit. I reckon tonight I'll give it a try with N2's. One or two of my other cars have the habit of weaving when trying to accelerate at full pace on a straight. Is this due to the tires being staggered or overpowered?
 
Could be a number of things.

Could be some weird LSD accel or LSD torque settings, could be some rear toe out, could be some combination of the things you suggested....etc

What are the rest of your settings like?
 
Well, that depends alot, I tend to change the setting quite a bit seeing what all the different effects are.

I generally like to use a bit of negative toe on the rear and I dont use much camber ever. I tend to like soft front stabilisers and stiffer rear, same for dampers.
Suspension and shocks tend to change from one end of the spectrum to the other.

Could be my LSD settings are off though. To be honest, I dont really understand what the differance is and what they do(*hint-it would be really nice for someone to explain it in simple terms)
 
Pagan_2k
Well, that depends alot, I tend to change the setting quite a bit seeing what all the different effects are.

I generally like to use a bit of negative toe on the rear and I dont use much camber ever. I tend to like soft front stabilisers and stiffer rear, same for dampers.
Suspension and shocks tend to change from one end of the spectrum to the other.

Could be my LSD settings are off though. To be honest, I dont really understand what the differance is and what they do(*hint-it would be really nice for someone to explain it in simple terms)
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I would suggest setting your rear toe to 0 for now. I'd be pretty confident that this is what is causing you problems.

If you were usng that toe setting to make the car more unstable on corner entry, then I'd suggest possibly lowering your LSD decel settings. It won't be an identical effect, but it will make the car looser/more maneuverable under braking/accel-off (which, I'm guessing, is all you wanted in the first place).

I've tried to summarize the effects of LSD settings changes towards the end of the 5th post in the following thread:
**FR Drift Guide**
 

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