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Anybody else think that most music today is poor quality?

I go out with my friends once in awhile to the bars downtown and all they play is this poppy rap/electronic stuff.

I put some money in the jukebox and turned on "The Joker" by Steve Miller Band and some whiny college brat started complaining and said "who listens to this crap anymore?" and it just sort of got to me.

I don't see how these groups can call themselves "artists" either because most of them don't even play an instrument, much less sing their songs without fancy computer effects. But a lot of times, the music they're singing to is ripped off, excuse me - "sampled" - from other artists.

Kid Rock's "All Summer Long" for example. The guy has the audacity to complain about music piracy, then makes a pile of money off of stealing from "Werewolves of London" by Warren Zevon, and singing about drinking. The guy just seems like no-talent white trash to me.

Another one is Puff Daddy/P.Diddy. The guy has never made anything original in his life and just makes money off of his dead friend.

Or another one I heard on the radio recently was Nicki Minaj. Talk about a lack of talent.

I know I'm going to catch heat for this, but Justin Bieber seems like he has more talent than the three others I mentioned. At least he can play the drums and sings his songs without voice changers and stuff.

Sorry but I just needed to vent. People say I'm an old fart because I'm 25 and listen to classic rock and real musicians and it just ticks me off.


What do you guys think?
 
Hey I'm 14 and I have exactley the same feeling. My iPod consists of Feeder, Kings of Leon, Kasabian and stuff like that. I get annoyed, I play guitar, keyboard, drums, piano among others yet this kid from my old school who could never sing or play a musical instrument is getting a record deal because his dad is friends with some producer of the Auto-Tuned assault to the eardrums on every contempary music station.
 
I'm 14 and I listen to new music and old music and I think there is classics you can't beat i'm into rap so I like N.W.A and other artists like Tupac but I also listen to new music people like Tinchy Stryder, Skepta and Game but overall I prefer older music.
 
Choosing what you listen to based on what other people are listening to is rather stupid.

Listen to what you believe is good.

Not many people listen to jazz anymore, but I enjoy listening to it anyway. I only dislike current music because it feels really cut & paste for the most part.
 
I'm 14 , I listen to Skrillex , Bob Dylan (only 1 song , the hurricane) , Steve Aoki , Fatman Scoop , Dizee Rascall and soo .
 
hogger129
Anybody else think that most music today is poor quality?

I go out with my friends once in awhile to the bars downtown and all they play is this poppy rap/electronic stuff.

I put some money in the jukebox and turned on "The Joker" by Steve Miller Band and some whiny college brat started complaining and said "who listens to this crap anymore?" and it just sort of got to me.

I don't see how these groups can call themselves "artists" either because most of them don't even play an instrument, much less sing their songs without fancy computer effects. But a lot of times, the music they're singing to is ripped off, excuse me - "sampled" - from other artists.

Kid Rock's "All Summer Long" for example. The guy has the audacity to complain about music piracy, then makes a pile of money off of stealing from "Werewolves of London" by Warren Zevon, and singing about drinking. The guy just seems like no-talent white trash to me.

Another one is Puff Daddy/P.Diddy. The guy has never made anything original in his life and just makes money off of his dead friend.

Or another one I heard on the radio recently was Nicki Minaj. Talk about a lack of talent.

I know I'm going to catch heat for this, but Justin Bieber seems like he has more talent than the three others I mentioned. At least he can play the drums and sings his songs without voice changers and stuff.

Sorry but I just needed to vent. People say I'm an old fart because I'm 25 and listen to classic rock and real musicians and it just ticks me off.


What do you guys think?
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All of today's music =/= Today's chart music. Good music is out there, you just need to know where to look. The charts/mainstream radio is most certainly not the place. All you find is what's popular not what's good. I'm more of an electronic music fan, which I can assure you is not at all easy to make as a lot of "rock" fans are quick to say. Granted, most mainstream electronic music is dreadful but please don't assume all electronic music is like that.

I quite often listen to conventional music but from a listening point of view, does it really matter if the creator made it their self using proper instruments or not so long as the music is aesthetically pleasing ?

adam46
Hey I'm 14 and I have exactley the same feeling. My iPod consists of Feeder, Kings of Leon, Kasabian and stuff like that. I get annoyed, I play guitar, keyboard, drums, piano among others yet this kid from my old school who could never sing or play a musical instrument is getting a record deal because his dad is friends with some producer of the Auto-Tuned assault to the eardrums on every contempary music station.
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All of those are modern bands still active.

At the end of the day autotuned music is aimed to appeal to the masses which it obviously does as it dominates the charts. If you don't like it, don't listen to it, you are not alone. The demand for it outweighs the demand for "real" music in which case you can only blame the public for buying and liking it. It is also worth pointing out that electronic music does not necessarily equal autotuned music.
 
I think todays music must be fantastic.
Now if you're wondering about my strange wording of that let me explain. I mostly listen to older music too because I like it. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Pink Floyd, ...
My father was once in a band with his friends a long while ago. Back then there were a lot of those types of garage bands all over the globe, but I'm sure there's other people that know about this much more than me as it was before my time.
A huge amount of these bands never really played more than smaller events for small money or no money at all.

Today it does seem that the most popular music has taken a turn for the worse. There's nobody to blame, it's just the market responding to what makes the most money.
However just like there were garage bands before there's plenty of unknown artists with great songs nowadays. It's made even easier today, because everything is generally more accessible now and with the internet it's easier to get your music heard. Even if it's by a couple dozen people.
So that's why I think that while the most popular songs can be repetitive, over simplified and even downright annoying, it's simply unfair to say that todays music is better or worse than older music.
Who knows, maybe as music progresses in the future 'better' songs will get more attention.
 
TyrrellRacing
All of those are modern bands still active.

At the end of the day autotuned music is aimed to appeal to the masses which it obviously does as it dominates the charts. If you don't like it, don't listen to it, you are not alone. The demand for it outweighs the demand for "real" music in which case you can only blame the public for buying and liking it. It is also worth pointing out that electronic music does not necessarily equal autotuned music.
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Yeah I know they are all active but that's my style. And don't worry, I don't mind what you like, that's your own choice and I'm open-minded to any music. If there is a song I like whether it's classical, rap, electronic or otherwise I'll admit it. But that's a very rare thing, Alternative Rock seems to be my style of music.
 
TyrrellRacing
All of today's music =/= Today's chart music. Good music is out there, you just need to know where to look. The charts/mainstream radio is most certainly not the place. All you find is what's popular not what's good.
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Exactly! My biggest "musical gripe" is people claiming there's no good music anymore. If you check out your local music scene, non-commercial radio and independent record labels, you'll find some fantastic artists who are right up there with the "classics". It really doesn't take that much effort to find some good new music.
 
Mainstream music started to suck once Disco got a hold of the masses.

Today's music is every bit as good as any other generation. The best part of this generation is that you don't have to be accepted by the masses to be successful. Underground bands in the 90's, 80s', 70's fell hard if they weren't derived from a certain formula. When thinking about the 60's, 70's and even 80's and 90's all you think about is the great stuff that stuck with you... not the atrocities that flooded the airwaves.

Remember all the white bands pretending to be black bands... awful... No one thinks about them, they just think about the great black musicians.

I'm not much of a musician.. well not anymore. Played bass and a few other classical instruments but I never got anything out of playing music. It was a boring time/money sink that I didn't care about. But I understand music better then most. I was someone who could read music and play if perfectly but I couldn't do anything on my own.

Most of the old stuff I listen to are underground Heavy Psych Rock bands, a genre which has found a resurgence. Along with other variations of blues rock (most notably Stoner). Lots of metal (Doom, Sludge, Thrash, Heavy, Death and a little bit of some others). Prog, Post, Dark Ambient, Alt Rock, Goth, a few electronic based rock bands (Orgy, Black Light Burns, Puscifer etc.. ) and used to be a huge guitar virtuoso fan. I've indulged in some rap and even rap/rock combos (though not LP or LB).

Last.fm is your friend.
 
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I actually use Last.fm frequently, and found a bit of artists that exactly match my cravings.


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Choosing what you listen to based on what other people are listening to is rather stupid.

Listen to what you believe is good.
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I agree. Many of my peers in my neighborhood listen the sort of music you guys may consider "mainstream". But if they like it, I can't change that. Of course, I can scurry along and feast their ears to talented artists. However, if they dislike it, I'd rather not bother attempt to influence their music style. If I do come across someone who shares my tastes, that's a plus.
 
adam46
Hey I'm 14 and I have exactley the same feeling. My iPod consists of Feeder, Kings of Leon, Kasabian and stuff like that. I get annoyed, I play guitar, keyboard, drums, piano among others yet this kid from my old school who could never sing or play a musical instrument is getting a record deal because his dad is friends with some producer of the Auto-Tuned assault to the eardrums on every contempary music station.
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Lol. Hey I noticed you live on Isle of Wight too, they have some pretty cool concerts there every now and then that I watch on TV.
 
Can't stand new music. Its computer generated noise.
 
Slashfan
Can't stand new music. Its computer generated noise.
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Example) Foo Fighters newest album, Wasting Light. Recorded entirely on analogue equipment in Dave Grohls garage...

Not computer generated or 'noise'.
 
Honestly, where/how the music is recorded (whether analogue or digital) has no real bearing on how good it is, or sounds. There is great new music if you look for it, just as there is plenty of bad old music if you look for it.

I hate most of the stuff in the charts, but new music is not just what you find in the charts. If you compare the legends of old music to the average/bad/untalented of the current time then it's obvious that you're going to think that old music is/was much better.
 
hogger129
Anybody else think that most music today is poor quality?

I go out with my friends once in awhile to the bars downtown and all they play is this poppy rap/electronic stuff.

I put some money in the jukebox and turned on "The Joker" by Steve Miller Band and some whiny college brat started complaining and said "who listens to this crap anymore?" and it just sort of got to me.

I don't see how these groups can call themselves "artists" either because most of them don't even play an instrument, much less sing their songs without fancy computer effects. But a lot of times, the music they're singing to is ripped off, excuse me - "sampled" - from other artists.

Kid Rock's "All Summer Long" for example. The guy has the audacity to complain about music piracy, then makes a pile of money off of stealing from "Werewolves of London" by Warren Zevon, and singing about drinking. The guy just seems like no-talent white trash to me.

Another one is Puff Daddy/P.Diddy. The guy has never made anything original in his life and just makes money off of his dead friend.

Or another one I heard on the radio recently was Nicki Minaj. Talk about a lack of talent.

I know I'm going to catch heat for this, but Justin Bieber seems like he has more talent than the three others I mentioned. At least he can play the drums and sings his songs without voice changers and stuff.

Sorry but I just needed to vent. People say I'm an old fart because I'm 25 and listen to classic rock and real musicians and it just ticks me off.


What do you guys think?
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You are most definitely not alone! I feel the exact same way!

When I'm out with friends, all you hear is the same 10-12 songs played over and over again. There's no variety or imagination in any of the songs, the vast majority of them is about drinking and partying. I admit there are some songs which are about other elements of life but all the 'popular' stuff is the same stuff made on a laptop. To me that is not what being a musical artist is about, it's about sitting down with your band or producer and throwing ideas back and forth lyrically and musically.

When I get some older stuff played that isn't offensive to people's ears, they all start crying and whinging about it. It just really makes my blood boil. When I'm driving around, the radio is never used! I'm always using my iPod.

Just my two cents worth.
 
I'm assuming that "New" Music refers to this Top 40 bunch of crap, in which it is. As for "older" Music, I don't enjoy that much Older music, yes there's some Lynyrd Skynyrd, Metallica, Run DMC, that I really like. Yes some older music was way more thought out, and more complex than this Top 40 crap that plays today where Chrous's are mainly just one or 2 repeated words, or general lazy ass vocals with a standard 120bpm.

But, for those of You who classify EDM with Top 40, I'mma stop you right there, k?
I mostly listen to EDM today, where as a year or 2 ago, it was mainly Metallica, Buckethead, Audioslave, RATM, Etc. I still enjoy that today some, but EDM seems more variable IMO. Let's take Zedd for instance. There's Shave It, a punchy, jumpy really exciting House/Electro track, and then There's Spectrum, one of the most beautiful and emotional songs by the same artist. Another example? Skrillex. There's Evil as Satan, which is just demonic as all hell with growling monster basses. Then there's With You Friends, Long Drive which is at the other end, very emotional and slower, with an uplifting, yet depressing tone. One artist can vary their tracks so much which gives the scene a lot of variety and sub-genres. It's not just bashing a computer and making sounds, it's complex as all hell and requires a lot of work just to create the sounds, let alone make them sound good together.

TL: DR Your preference depends on age and what you grew up with IMO, and Top 40 is NOT EDM.
 
There's good music from any time period. You just have to get used to it. I used to not know who Led Zeppelin was, but I love their music now.

But yeah, most of the stuff in the charts, blah.
 
I actually kind of find it hard to listen to old music, but it may just be that I didn't grow up with it, but stuff from the 70's and 80's are actually better than all those boy bands in the 90's, but I still don't listen to it. In fact, the oldest song I even remotely listen to is the original Pokémon theme song.

Slashfan
Can't stand new music. Its computer generated noise.
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No, that's just Vocaloid and that horrid dubstep stuff.
 
MindlessRiff
Plenty of good music out there, you just have to find it.

Popular music on the other hand... lol.
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I agree.

The internet has given access to much more music. The problem is most music is crap. Back in the 80s and 90s when you only heard the new songs on radio or on MTV only the very best got played
 
There's still as much, if not more awesome music out there now as there was back in the 60's and 70's. It's just that for some reason, the crap music that you find in the charts is more popular nowadays; no idea why...
 
I agree with the OP. I also agree with others that there is fantastic music out there still, but you just have to go find it.

But I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the new popular electro based music. I get the sense of lack of passion put into their music/songs. Seems like these "dubstep artist" will put out a new song everyday anymore. I do respect good electronic artist though, such as; Moby, Aphex Twin, The Crystal Method, etc.

For the record I listen to a huge variety of genres; some of my favorites being Primus, Buckethead, Tool, Man or Astroman?, and etc.
 
If I were to quickly answer I would say old. But putting some thought to it...

I currently have 78 albums in media player. (not including pony music)

43 of those were released in 2000 or more recent. And 35 are older than that. I tend to like older bands, but tend to like their newer material. I also like some new bands too, I would still consider Edguy to be reasonably young as a band, they formed in '92 (as 14 year old students). Edguy are proof of the whole you find good music if you look for it. Edguy is an excellent band, but aren't very well known in many places around the world. When I first discovered Edguy last year, I'm pretty sure I was the only student in the Upper Hutt area to have ever heard them before. But I've spread the word a bit. ;)

So if I really have to answer, I probably like newer music. When you find good new music that fits your tastes... You'll understand.
 
^^I'm willing to bet most of you're new material is by bands older than 1990 lol
 

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