Tokyo R246 Tips

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Hi Guys,

R246 is one of my favourite tracks, but I just can't seem to improve my times with it.

For example I was playing online, in a room with HP 443 Max, and 1160 KG, and most people including me using the M3 GTR '03. I can only really manage a 1' 41 (40s) max with this car, but some really good racer was managing 1' 37/38s... The difference was huge...! I'm not dire at the game, but not that great either,,

So has anyone got any tips on the track on how to improve times or tips on how to get the best out of using a DS3? I normally use Auto but I tried MT on practise laps, but I can't even match my Auto times... Maybe I need more practice.. Thanks!
 
Are you using any driving aids (TCS, ASM etc.)? These can slow you down.

I can't give too many tips on that track exactly because I don't run it too often.
 
I'm not to sure the name of the section of the track but there is this s style turn u can go strait through it with no problems
 
That lap-time isn't that slow.

Bare in mind that if you are behind the leading pack, you will not be benefiting from drafting, where as all the leaders will be drafting off each other, yielding better lap times.

Just focus on maintaining the highest possible corner speed by not over braking. Remain at constant speed throughout the corner by modulating the throttle. Take the correct line and exit the corner with good acceleration. Do those things and your lap times will greatly start to decrease.

Also, consider your tune, decent tuning can take a large chunk of your time off.

The most likely cause of the time gap would probably be that the leaders will be fully tuning their cars, and then detuning them with the power limiter and ballast to meet the requirements. This means that they will have a better weight distribution than you, allowing them to corner better, but also will have more torque and a superior power-band.
 
For me there was a lot of time to be found at the last corner, never seemed to hit it right. Once I figured out the best way to get through there my times dropped. It's the most important corner on the track because it leads onto the extremely long front straight. There is actually a license test you can do over and over to master that corner (can't remember which one specifically).
 
It's not so strange. R246 is a long, fast and tricky track. Aside of tuning, differences between very good drivers and good drivers easily jump to 2-3" in these conditions. GT Academy experience....
 
I am a veteran of Tokyo Route 246. The one thing I've learned best is that the first half of Tokyo R246 features the toughest corners, so if you don't get them right, your lap times will be screwed. The smooth chicane on the backstretch was one I would usually take at full or partial throttle depending on my car and the competition. But in GT5, I am more defensive now. I try to take the chicane smoothly rather than go balls-out. The corner that catches me out often times is that left-hand kink that goes through the section under the freeway. Tokyo R246 is fun and fast, but it is also very tricky. Don't take ANYTHING for granted here.

Having said this, I've never struggled so much in one of my favorite cities in the world. I have a losing streak going from the Gran Turismo All-Stars runs I've had at Tokyo R246. Even in the kiosk demo of GT5, I never led as time expired. Just keep racing hard, and you'll eventually master Tokyo R246! Or as we say in NASCAR- keep diggin'!
 
I wish I could drive this track. I'm always miles too slow through the first chicane and I hate that corner that goes under the overpass just before the final turn. 9 times out of 10 I hit the barrier.
 
Stretch those gears for those curvy parts of the tracks. use gear ratios to your benefit.
A good racing line will give save you the alot of time on this track.
 
It's my favourite track as well, can't remember how many times I've run it in GT4 and GT5.

The first corner is very tricky: take it from as far left as you can, then cut through at the most shallow angle possible. That way you can keep a large part of the momentum you got from the straight. Same thing with the narrow chicane that follows.

Same thing as well on the right hander that follows the shallow chicane: by starting from the left and cutting through by clipping the inside curb you can use your momentum to get to the next corner and save a lot of time.

However, two things to remember:
1.that's a "time trial"-line.You need a setup that fits you perfectly, as precision is an absolute must on this track. The car is often at its limit when cornering at high speed, and an opponent following can easily dive into the inside as you leave a lot of space while coming into a corner. Problem is, any contact in that situation will send you into a spin.
2. Tokyo looks a bit narrow because of the scenery, but it's actually pretty wide. Other tracks actually have smaller tarmac, but seem wider because of the gravel pits. Use the entire track.
Good luck!
 
Practicing using manual and staying on a good racing line will do it.
 
Switching to manual can help a lot. It may take some practice if you aren't used to it. I find on some corners on Tokyo that the gear will drop down when I don't want it to in AT. Using MT the problem is solved.
 
Also consider playing with the car's top speed.
R246 requires a high top speed over most sections of the track.
You want your top end to be set so it's barely hitting the rev limiter in top gear on the longest straight.
That way you should have the best compromise of acceleration over top speed.
 
Yeah, Tokyo R246 is a little of everything from a tuning standpoint. Everything except severe elevation changes. You have to tune for speed while also having a decent handling setup.
 
Don't like the track personally, but I learned a lot about it doing the Formula seasonal. Some of those wide bends can be taken much faster than they seem, and there's one area with a square kink (about mid-late track close to where that final windy strait begins) where keeping traction and then going full pedal into the exit corner is exhilaratingly fast and totally doable. I started taking that 3rd-gearish corner full throttle into 4th etc. in regular cars and really noticed this track has a lot of hidden time-shaving spots.
 
Thanks for the tips!

I will definitely try the wider out approach on the 2 said corners.

About fully tuning the car then limiting it? Is this the preferred method to get the best power band? Or trying to hit the restrictions perfectly?

For tunes I was using this: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=149315

It's pretty good the tune, I took down the tranny to about 183 mph; just under red line in 6th on the straight.
 

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