Top Gear Ayrton Senna Tribute

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I didn't know whether to put this in this forum of the tv one however I thought you guys might want to see it more.
On top gear last night was possibly the best episode for only one reason. The last 15 mins was a tribute to ayrton senna. It was possibly the most moving piece of film I have ever seen. I have never cried at a film but this made me well up inside.
So I hear you all ask what am I talking about?. Well here it is.

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However sadly it may never be shown on tv again due to how much it cost the bbc in liecencing. Also the bbc are trying to remove all vidoes of it from the internet. So download it now or you might never be able to see it again.
 
Hmm, it didn't really move me that much, I have a far better tribute made by a fan that definitely gets the tears running at the end. They used the final lap of Imola onboard cut with flashbacks of his career at the end of the video - the emotions that are running watching that are almost unbearable.

It was a good tribute to Senna though, just didn't hit me like some other tributes.

The best video the BBC has ever made was "Senna" back in 1994.

Looking forward to the feature film in the cinemas later this year/next year though. 👍
 
I'll always remain a GV fan myself, but GV was all about the impossible made possible ... and sometimes not. No WDC and I don't even care.

Senna belongs to a different category, right there with the other multi-GP winners,multi-WDC champions. And, in that category, he was the closest you can get to a GV kind of guy. So, in a way, he is my favourite very successful F1 driver.
 
To see that car alive again... It touched me.

Ayrton Senna, Never forgotten.
 
It was factually innaccurate. The MP4/4 did not have 1200bhp like Jeremy said. Its not even close as it had about 650bhp IIRC.
 
daan
It was factually innaccurate. The MP4/4 did not have 1200bhp like Jeremy said. Its not even close as it had about 650bhp IIRC.
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It has been said that the special qualifying engines of the time produced 1200bhp+. Even the Tyrrell's dabbled with this much power when they had a turbo engine. They didn't use the same power output for the race for obvious reasons.
 
the MP4/4 never did have 1200hp in qualifying or the race. It was limited to 2.5 bar and as far as I know, it ran at 2.5 bar all of qualifying and all of the race. You hear about those massive power figures back in the mid-80's where there was no boost restriction. They cranked up the boost in qualifying to crazy amounts.
 
RIP Senna. Now I really do realise how great he was. Who cares about Schumacher, Senna was God in a racing suit and a helmet. We can only imagine what he could have achieved had he not crashed on May 1, 1994.
 
Knowing as little as I do about Senna, that video showed me a lot I didn't even know about the guy. Had a glorious talent and I wish I could have seen all of his events; this just further encourages me to go back and watch the classic events. I'd appreciate if someone could verify if Senna really did have that kind of raw tenacity, not that I'm doubting him or the tribute TG did...I'd just like to hear from someone here who was watching during that time.

RIP.
 
Ardius
Hmm, it didn't really move me that much, I have a far better tribute made by a fan that definitely gets the tears running at the end. They used the final lap of Imola onboard cut with flashbacks of his career at the end of the video - the emotions that are running watching that are almost unbearable.

It was a good tribute to Senna though, just didn't hit me like some other tributes.

The best video the BBC has ever made was "Senna" back in 1994.

Looking forward to the feature film in the cinemas later this year/next year though. 👍
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Whats this about a feature film? More please! :)

The tribute was surprisingly touching for what was essentially an analysis of his driving style, but it gave a fantastic insight into him as a person. That weekend in '94 was dreadfully sad. :(
 
crooky369
Thanks for that 👍

Any chance of linking that video you mentioned "that was almost unbearable to watch" in your last post?
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It was taken down from youtube many times but can still be downloaded here:
http://www.filefront.com/15810629/Ayrton-Senna.avi/

45 minutes, its easily the best tribute I've seen so far.

PeterJB
Whats this about a feature film? More please! :)
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http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/07/senna-movie-treat-in-store-for-f1-fans-this-autumn/

Its due out either the end of this year or next year. Apparently they've used recordings of Ayrton in a clever way to make it seem like he is commentating. It will be released worldwide in cinemas and is not just a documentary.
 
I'll say what I said in the Top Gear thread:

The Senna piece was masterful. I'll admit that I only started keeping up with Formula One this season, and I really don't know much about the drivers of decades passed. Infact, I can only name a hand full of drivers from Senna's era. But the film really showed that Senna was a terrific human being, both in the car and out. I thought it was noble of him when he stopped his car to help a fellow driver who crashed. I did like Hamilton testing out the old McLaren. I thought Lewis was a good fit since he is the current face of McLaren, just as Senna was when he drove for them. It was either him or Bruno, but Bruno isn't really up to par to be honest. If you make a Michael Schumacher tribute film, you wouldn't get Ralf to drive his old car. You would get Vettel or something.
 
Terronium-12
Knowing as little as I do about Senna, that video showed me a lot I didn't even know about the guy. Had a glorious talent and I wish I could have seen all of his events; this just further encourages me to go back and watch the classic events. I'd appreciate if someone could verify if Senna really did have that kind of raw tenacity, not that I'm doubting him or the tribute TG did...I'd just like to hear from someone here who was watching during that time.

RIP.
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1984 Monaco Grand Prix, that is all
 
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1984 Monaco Grand Prix, that is all
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Talk about heavenly justice .... I was at Estoril for the last GP of that season, and saw Prost loose the WDC to Lauda by ... 0,5 :sly:


(history lesson: a second place in the Monaco GP was worth 6 points, the first place Ickx gave Prost for stopping the race short of a scandal - a victory from rookie Senna in a Toleman-Hart - was only worth 4,5 points.

PS - To be honest, back then I didn't care much about Senna, I was glad to see Lauda be champion for a 3rd time, 9 years after his first crown (1975), and as crowning achievement for his come-back to F1. People that only know Lauda as an outspoken commentator usually forget that he is one of the greatest F1 drivers ever, up there with Senna, Prost and Schumacher (just to mention the modern era ones).
 
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I think you'll find Hun that Stefan Bellof was going to win that race if it had run it's full course.
 
No, Duffers, because he would be disqualified still for the illegal ballast system in the Tyrrell ;).
 
He would of won on the road, that's what counts. It's a shame that Bellof wasn't around longer as I genuinly believe, talen-wise he was Senna's equal or maybe even better.

One thing I never go about Senna was the way he had a grudge against Prost almost as soon as he started in F1, I don't if that's just because he knew Prost was the best at that time and he set out to beat him.
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Does anybody find it funny that Button's favourite driver is Prost and Hamilton's is Senna? Both driver's idolised people and ended up haviing very similair racing styles to them
 
It is really weird that today's McLaren line-up is eerily similar to the 1988 one.
The driving styles on the track are the only similarity though.

I agree Bellof could have gone places. But saying that Brundle equalled him a few times at Tyrrell and he didn't really get much of a chance until Benetton.
 
it was a real good idea from topgear.
Senna was a great driver even if some actions were questionable, but that's what race drivers are :humans.
Schumi did a similar thing.

A worthy tribute.
 
Duffers917K
Does anybody find it funny that Button's favourite driver is Prost and Hamilton's is Senna? Both driver's idolised people and ended up haviing very similair racing styles to them
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Ardius
It is really weird that today's McLaren line-up is eerily similar to the 1988 one.
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That's actually quite cool :dopey:. I just realised it! Thanks for pointing that out haha :D.

Ardius
The driving styles on the track are the only similarity though.
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Yeah I don't think Jenson and Lewis (or McLaren) would allow themselves to get in a similar situation as Prost and Senna did all those years ago. In saying that you never know what could happen. Just look what happened in Red Bull between Webber and Vettel...
 
Louie_Schumii
That's actually quite cool :dopey:. I just realised it! Thanks for pointing that out haha :D.


Yeah I don't think Jenson and Lewis (or McLaren) would allow themselves to get in a similar situation as Prost and Senna did all those years ago. In saying that you never know what could happen. Just look what happened in Red Bull between Webber and Vettel...
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And Alonso and Massa.
 
Ardius
It has been said that the special qualifying engines of the time produced 1200bhp+. Even the Tyrrell's dabbled with this much power when they had a turbo engine. They didn't use the same power output for the race for obvious reasons.
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As Matti said, the MP4/4 (which was only used in 1988) was restricted to 2.5 bar which equated to about 650bhp. I know the BMW engine in the Brabham was rumoured to produce 1500bhp in qualifiyng whe there was no boost restriction, but 1988 had a boost restriction. His '85 Renault powered Lotus had that kind of power, but not any of his McLarens.

Jeremy is prone to hyperbole, but that feature did not need any as the facts are amazing enough.
 
Immediatly after watching this, I downloadead Senna's biography. I didn't finish the reading, but I already can say that Senna was by fair, a lot more than a just one of the greatest F-1 driver. If you are a reading person, a Senna's fan or a F-1 fan, you'll probably love it. So here is my recomendation, Senna's biography, called, in portuguese, Senna: O Herói Revelado, or something like ' Senna: The Hero Revealed '. Would you please sorry my English, cause living between Brazil and EUA, I ended learning both languages, but either poorly, althought I'm a little better in portuguese.
 
daan
As Matti said, the MP4/4 (which was only used in 1988) was restricted to 2.5 bar which equated to about 650bhp. I know the BMW engine in the Brabham was rumoured to produce 1500bhp in qualifiyng whe there was no boost restriction, but 1988 had a boost restriction. His '85 Renault powered Lotus had that kind of power, but not any of his McLarens.

Jeremy is prone to hyperbole, but that feature did not need any as the facts are amazing enough.
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I've tried driving the 85 cars on Rfactor. Even for a sim I struggle to get them off the line without spinning.
 

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