Toyota TS030

[TomBrady]

Its 560bhp with an oil change, and while that might be a low figure, you got to remember, this thing annihilates any other LMP or group C car from 0 to 200 simply because of the ferocious power from the ERS system.

It is dominating the 600PP range, with more power it would dominate the 700PP aswell.


Now I love this car, its by far the best handling car in the game, so I would'nt mind that. But is it really such a good idea to make the best car in the game even better?

Wow I didn't know people enjoy it that much. I haven't been able to because the visibility is just awful. It may have the worst visibility from cockpit view of any car in the game.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Wow I didn't know people enjoy it that much. I haven't been able to because the visibility is just awful. It may have the worst visibility from cockpit view of any car in the game.

The visibility is pretty poor alright. The TS030 HYBRID is my favourite, and most used a c. 4000km, car in GT6 not just because of the performance but as it's a Toyota LMP too.

 

[JayOTT]

See, this is why when I wanted to convert from chase cam to a more 'realistic' view, I chose bonnet cam over cockpit cam. I understand that cockpit cam is supposed to be the most realistic experience but I just don't see it. The cone of vision that a person has in real life doesn't seem to reflect well onto a TV screen, resulting in poor visibility in some cars when in real life the driver can probably see just fine (if they couldn't, the Toyota LM P1 team would surely have crashed out of more races then they have...)

 

[Ken Tali]

See, this is why when I wanted to convert from chase cam to a more 'realistic' view, I chose bonnet cam over cockpit cam. I understand that cockpit cam is supposed to be the most realistic experience but I just don't see it. The cone of vision that a person has in real life doesn't seem to reflect well onto a TV screen, resulting in poor visibility in some cars when in real life the driver can probably see just fine (if they couldn't, the Toyota LM P1 team would surely have crashed out of more races then they have...)

I don´t actually have any problems with this cars cockpit view.There are a few much worse IMO.

 

[TomBrady]

See, this is why when I wanted to convert from chase cam to a more 'realistic' view, I chose bonnet cam over cockpit cam. I understand that cockpit cam is supposed to be the most realistic experience but I just don't see it. The cone of vision that a person has in real life doesn't seem to reflect well onto a TV screen, resulting in poor visibility in some cars when in real life the driver can probably see just fine (if they couldn't, the Toyota LM P1 team would surely have crashed out of more races then they have...)

That doesn't make sense at all though. Cockpit is the only even remotely realistic view in these games because like in real life, each car has different visibility. There's no other way to replicate the differences between the visibility in these cars unless you use cockpit view.

Frankly, claiming that it's okay to use bonnet or even worse, bumper cam because your cone of vision isn't the same in the game is a cop out. Fact of the matter is cockpit is the only remotely realistic view in these games. It's not perfect but in real life, you are in the cockpit when you're driving, and you are subjected to the differences in visibility between each car. If this is to be a sim, visibility from the cockpit needs to be a factor but when you use bonnet/bumper cam it simply isn't. That's a much bigger issue than the FoV not being as high as real life.

The camera view isn't the problem, the single screen setup is the issue and GT6's lack of features like being able to move the seat position and change FOV (the 3 FOV settings in GT6 are almost useless)

 

[coryclifford]

Seeing my steering wheel and the cockpit view steering wheel, and hands that are too slow to shift is super annoying.

 

[Rasmus Munch]

Its much too slow in a straight line the Toyota, a real LMP1 car is faster down a long straight. The grip and downforce in GT6 might be higher than real life though for this particular car, but the power is too low. PD need to add a Turbo option to it or give it an extra 80 hp.

I don't think it's too slow at all, Think about it. the Pescarolo C60 Hybride, it's waay to fast along with the other Pescarolos.

If you want your Toyota TS030 to be faster, give it the proper setup. My TS030 can go up to 346km/h, and my fastest lap time with it on Circuit de la Sarthe is 3.21.597 (Valid time).

 

[Rasmus Munch]

If you guys want it to be quicker, just give it the right setup. If you want a good setup, just send me a message and i'll help you

 

[Manasseh257NSX]

If you guys want it to be quicker, just give it the right setup. If you want a good setup, just send me a message and i'll help you

The real question is did you use a wheel to run this time? I've gotten to my TS030 to hit 333km/h (206mph) on the mulsanne straight (more near it's real life top speed) but I have never been able to run faster than a 3:28 because of the Porsche curves as I can't run it truly how it's suppose to be driven. Also I've heard from a lot of people that you get through it much faster with a wheel than a DS3.

 

[coryclifford]

And that's crap. I went from 15 years with a DS3 (sticks) to a wheel recently and it's the same. It's skill level, not the controller (DS3). Excuses.

 

[JayOTT]

Frankly, claiming that it's okay to use bonnet or even worse, bumper cam because your cone of vision isn't the same in the game is a cop out. Fact of the matter is cockpit is the only remotely realistic view in these games.

Driving around half-blind isn't realistic. Unrealistic camera angle, or unrealistic cone of vision? I choose the option that allows me to actually see where I'm going.

And that's crap. I went from 15 years with a DS3 (sticks) to a wheel recently and it's the same. It's skill level, not the controller (DS3). Excuses.

It is actually quite evident that the wheel gives you a better turning circle at high-speeds on GT5 and GT6. That's why, amongst other things, DS3 users found it hair pullingly hard to gold the Red Bull X Challenges in GT5, whilst wheel users may have found it tough, but very doable. Another example was Eau Rouge in stage three of this years GT academy; wheel users could take that nearly flat out, DS3 users had to lift significantly to get around it.

 

[coryclifford]

I had no problems with any of that. Got golds at RB stuff in GT5 (eventually) and fine through Eau Rouge in the GTA.

Just saying. :tup:

It's also widely know in the community that more people are here to complain or brag… means nothing.

You edited? Widely known became, quite evident. Largely different.

 

[JayOTT]

You edited? Widely known became, quite evident. Largely different.

I often edit my posts on forums after initially posting when I want to re-phrase something. I suspect that this DS3/Wheel disparity issue is a widely known one, but I rephrased it to avoid being accused of making assumptions.

How fast did you take Eau Rouge in the GT Academy event? Because the wheel users seemed to be able to take it at over 250 km/h...

 

[coryclifford]

Foot to the floor and/or stick smashed to the top. I did it using both the wheel and DS3 sticks.

 

[Manasseh257NSX]

And that's crap. I went from 15 years with a DS3 (sticks) to a wheel recently and it's the same. It's skill level, not the controller (DS3). Excuses.

For one, I'm not making excuses, I'm stating facts. I'm not the world's best DS3 driver, but I'm pushing the thing to it's limits with the times I try to run, also, I don't run my times by cutting corners or drifting around hairpins, like some "faster" DS3 drivers do. I try to drive the cars the exact way I watch them. If you truly believe that there is no difference between driving with a wheel and a DS3, you obviously haven't gotten the full potential out of your wheel. There's a reason why all the top 100 times for these online time trials are dominated by wheel users. It's because a wheel can give you a more accurate and precise driving line. There are times and turns that wheel users can hit and master that DS3 users will NEVER be able to touch.

 

[Rasmus Munch]

The real question is did you use a wheel to run this time? I've gotten to my TS030 to hit 333km/h (206mph) on the mulsanne straight (more near it's real life top speed) but I have never been able to run faster than a 3:28 because of the Porsche curves as I can't run it truly how it's suppose to be driven. Also I've heard from a lot of people that you get through it much faster with a wheel than a DS3.

It's the same with wheel and controller, i have a friend who is better than me and he's using controller. But, when i drive my TS030, i make sure that when i'm breaking, my electric capacity gets filled. That way when i'm accelerating i get the best acceleration. And about Porsch curves, before the turn starts, press the brake a little bit, so you get alot of electricity, then when you pass the first curve, you press the gas all the way to the last right turn in the curves. Then comes the last turn, the left turn, brake down to approx 212 km/h and the just press the gas. That is how i drive my Toyota. (I just watched onboard Youtube videos)