Transformers2: Anderton Prime's Review

Saw it last night in Digital. Was it loud? Exponentially so. I kept thinking about the poor people trying to enjoy Up in the next theatre over.

There wasn't much to it; everything from the first movie done to the power of 10 this time around. Even Sam's mom gets more screen time to do her drunken psycho emotionally overburdened shtick.

Devastator was totally underwhelming and pointless; it hardly did anything except move around slowly and try to climb a pyramid with little success.

Jetfire was ultra-cool, as he's always been. The problem here though was a plague throughout the movie: I could hardly make out what most of the Transformers were saying. Megatron and Optimus were clearly pronouncing their lines, as were Ironhide and Soundwave. But Jetfire? Starscream? Forget about it. They may as well have been grunting and moaning. Perhaps they were.

The Fallen was cool to look at. Not enough display of what he was capable of though. I needed to see him pwning some Autobots and humans on a large scale before I was going to believe this was the baddest Decepticon of all time.

The plot is full of holes. It's Michael Bay's fault. But guess what? Optimus Prime is on screen, moving around, voiced by Peter Cullen. AND THAT'S MICHAEL BAY'S FAULT TOO. He is HARDLY the worst thing to happen to Hollywood. He's FAR from the worst director working in Tinseltown today.

Megan Fox: never saw the appeal before. To me she just looks like a bitch who's full of herself and is having a violent, torrid affair with a bottle of bronzer.

Now on to the Twins. Skids and Mudflap are their names. And they are HORRIBLE. Seriously, EVERYTHING you have heard about them is true. Every time they're on screen, it makes you cringe. Each successive phrase that escapes their robotic mouths is so bad, so racially stereotyping, so UNfunny, you start to wonder why Bay insisted they be in the movie, and then you stop quickly, because your head starts to hurt and your nose starts to bleed.

Best part of the movie: Optimus Prime's last stand in the forest. The best fighting in the entire movie is found in this six- or seven-minute fragment.

Still WAYYYY better than that Terminator 4 movie. And if you wait to see this in the comfort of your own home, you've missed the point of the whole venture. Bay blows stuff up real good. He ain't useful for much more than that. I remember reading a review where someone claimed this movie was mercifully free of sunset shots. After seeing it for myself, and noticing a sunset about every four shots, I realized that this particular reviewer had most likely been pummelled so completely into a mental and emotional stupor from all the noise and banging metal, his retinas could no longer recognize the setting sun for what it is.

3.5 out of 5.
 
The Megan Fox line made this review epic win. seriously she ain't THAT good looking. Go look at some Christina Ricchi DAMMIT!
 
No mention of the femme bot?

Ugh. She was even uglier than Megan Fox. But yeah, some even bronzer ho with a metal tail and an extendable tongue. Total bite off of the T-X, but who cares? I can't even remember what happens to her. She goes ape, tears up half the college, and then I began to find my large root beer more exciting at the moment I think...

Or if you're referring to Arcee, well, she (they?) show up with no introduction, no explanation until halfway into the movie as to why or how they got there, and then promptly die. Or at least one of them does. Or two. Again, when Megatron and Optimus are punching holes through each other and tearing apart the Great Pyramid, the gimmicky robots sort of get lost in the swing...except for the Twins. They are unforgettably awful. Can you perceive of a character even MORE annoying than freakin' Jar-Jar Binks? Betcha Mikey can (and does)!
 
This seems to reflect a lot of the criticisms that The Escapists's Movie Bob made (cas't link due to major language AUP violations) without the anger at Michale Bay for being the woprst thing in Hollywood ever, even worse than Uwe Boll.

Personally, Michael Bay is not the worst in Hollywood, just the worst choice for action combined with remotely serious subject matter <cough> Pearl Harbor <cough>, or something like Transformers that has a large fan base who wish he would treat it serious.
 
<cough> Pearl Harbor <cough>

Hahaha, I kept waiting for the love scene between Sam and Mikaela amongst the parachutes!

Some of their scenes were bad enough to elicit groans from a few...the rest of the sounds were squeals of delight from prepubescent boys whose idea of the ideal woman has sadly and I fear irreversibly become, sigh, Ms. Fox.
 
I am still going to see this movie for some reason. At least it was better than DB:Evolution.
 
I enjoyed the robot twins... i guess im a funny person and i enjoy laughing and i dont care about sterotypes..

Megatron - darth vader - lord voldemort - zerg..... they are all sterotypes of each other...

You can sit back and draw sterotypes on everything, but why bother?

Movie was funny, great action, great fighting and its one of the better movies ive seen come out.

I dont understand why its getting bashed so much, do people walk into theatres these days in a negative mindset looking for everything wrong that they can find, or do you allow your self to get swept up with the movie the mood and expereince how its suppose to.
 
Even walking into this one expecting it to be dumbed down, you still get pummeled with stupidity. Could you relate one of the "funny" moments involving the twins? Perhaps I overlooked something...
 
I enjoyed the robot twins... i guess im a funny person and i enjoy laughing and i dont care about sterotypes..
Did you like Jar Jar Binks too?

Megatron - darth vader - lord voldemort - zerg..... they are all sterotypes of each other...
Actually, those are clichés.

You can sit back and draw sterotypes on everything, but why bother?
It's targeted toward kids and parents don't like that. And some people are a bit too sensitive.

I dont understand why its getting bashed so much, do people walk into theatres these days in a negative mindset looking for everything wrong that they can find, or do you allow your self to get swept up with the movie the mood and expereince how its suppose to.
Having not seen the second one, and based on the first one compared to all the non-fanboy critics I have heard: Bad film is bad film. I do not get very excited about the Godfather, it never did much for me, but I can fully see that it is a great film. Similarly, I love Wayne's World and Bill & Ted, but that does not suddenly make them good films. What makes them brilliant is that they do not pretend to be good. They embraced their bad movie status. Heck in Wayne's World they even break the fourth wall (further than their norm) to blatantly point out a cheap instance of Deus Ex Machina ("For a security guard he sure did have a lot of information") used to move the story along. They also blatantly make fun of their own product placement.

Michael Bay, on the other hand, thinks he is making some kind of masterpiece for mainstream audiences.
 
Did you like Jar Jar Binks too?

Yes i did, though i was the best part of 9 when that film came out, but still even today i think his pretty funny.

As for the funny part of the brothers, well i just find their banter and use of words funny. I can see the sterotypes and being 1 of 3 brothers myself the banter is funny as its the same as in my house. They are the same sterotypes that we used to use at school to joke around and laugh at. We used to joke about our below average neighbourhood and joke about getting a cap poped in your ass. I know its not a great film in regards to character development, it could be so much better if we had less robots and more screen time a few to further develop them as seperate individuals, but that being said its still a nice movie to watch and it kept me entertained. I didnt walk in hoping to use all my brain power to analyse and understand and be challenged like say the matrix. I walked in like i do with fast and the furious and transformers 1 and a few others, enjoy the visuals and watch robots destroy robots lol.

but i fail to see how people can be disapointed and bored. They are obviously expecting too much and dont understand what type of movie it is, its siimlar to walking into Austin Powers then going man that just wasnt a very serious movie and how unrealstic was it? why doesnt Dr Evil just shoot Austin when he has the chance?? etc etc

It's targeted toward kids and parents don't like that. And some people are a bit too sensitive.
Its not rated PG as far as im aware....


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did some googling.. i found the part where the brothers called Leo pussy funny. Everyone in the packed cinema laughed at that one.
 
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Yes i did,
Which is why you don't understand the complaints that people have. The biggest issue, from a film-making perspective, is that they add nothing to the film. Comedic relief does not require silly characters if the script is well written.

but i fail to see how people can be disapointed and bored. They are obviously expecting too much and dont understand what type of movie it is, its siimlar to walking into Austin Powers then going man that just wasnt a very serious movie and how unrealstic was it? why doesnt Dr Evil just shoot Austin when he has the chance?? etc etc
Austin Powers is just like Wayne's World. It openly embraces the silliness. It blatantly says that it is not taking this serious. And it is obviously a parody of James Bond and similar films, meaning that it is supposed to come off stupid. Transformers is not a parody. If it is, then that explains a lot.

Its not rated PG as far as im aware....
Correct, PG-13. But when Michael Bay was questioned about them he said:
"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."
He admits he was targeting a young age group.
 
Now on to the Twins. Skids and Mudflap are their names. And they are HORRIBLE. Seriously, EVERYTHING you have heard about them is true. Every time they're on screen, it makes you cringe. Each successive phrase that escapes their robotic mouths is so bad, so racially stereotyping, so UNfunny, you start to wonder why Bay insisted they be in the movie, and then you stop quickly, because your head starts to hurt and your nose starts to bleed.

I agree with quite a bit of your review. Especially the part about the twins. Holy crap they should have been out of the movie. I am surprised you didnt mention the excessive swearing in this movie especially the use of the "P" word by the twins. That part sent the entire cinema into akward silence even a few whoas. Way too much swearing. I also agree that Megan Fox is just starting to become downright annoying at this point in her early career. Other than that the action, explosions, special effects, and robots were all awesome which is what we want in a movie like this.
 
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The entire script reads like a bad fan-fiction based off of the first movie, by a thirteen year old who's never watched transformers in his entire life... picking up robot names and descriptions off of a wiki page.

It's one thing when a random, comic-relief character says "I'm a gonna pop a cap in yo' ass.", but when the noble and honorable Optimus Prime performs Mafia-style executions on helpless, defeated adversaries... those of us who grew up watching the cartoons start to die a little, inside.

As a marketing exercise for GM, TF2 also fails miserably. There are only one or two GM vehicles in the movie from GM you can actually buy... the rest are concepts and failed concepts... and they didn't even bother to switch Bumblebee from the "concept" to the "production" Camaro. The R8, on the other hand, you can buy today, at any Audi dealer, thank you very much.

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As a "kid-oriented" movie, TF2 fails... miserably,,. again. There's kinky robo-fetish sex, jokes about scrotums, Mortal Kombat style executions, anti-social behavior and mindless, mind-numbing Ridley-Scott-esque action sequences that dragged on for hours... You could go to sleep halfway through the last battle and still wake up before the end... (I was quite honestly bored to tears before the final showdown started... not even Peter Jackson would drag out a battle scene this long) this is one movie parents most likely won't be taking their kids to watch... and if they do, they're not watching TF3 or buying the DVD.

Add to that, the frat-boyish humor, latent homophobia, slightly racist stereotypes, complete lack of logic... come on, not even thirteen year olds believe that Ivy-League schools are populated entirely by jocks and hot chicks, right? Right?... and for an alien artifact, thousands of years old, to contain a clue about another alien artifiact, in the form of a very human riddle (with human-o-centric points of reference... even if the riddle is couched in an alien language) is just beyond belief.

You can tell a movie is bad when people get up and walk out of the theater while the credit teasers are playing. They didn't even stop in their tracks to watch the mandatory "epilogue" scenes when they came up. They heard the dialogue, but didn't look up. Kept on walking right out. If it weren't for the odd smattering of humor in the movie, they probably would have walked out a lot earlier. While I normally sit through the credits of every movie I watch... just in case there's a stinger at the end I might miss, and because I feel it is my duty to honor those who wasted a significant part of their lives making the film... after one or two teasers, I lost interest, too, and got up to leave.

Which is worse... this or Wolverine? Tough call... tough call... :lol:
 
in Australia it was rated M 15+, so the swearing and kiddie thing wasnt applicable to my post.
 
Too bad they got that the other way around in this one... I wanted to scream out "Fatality" during that scene... of course, since my wife was with me, I don't think I would have gotten away with that unscathed... :lol:
 
Too many people complained that the Transformers weren't lethal enough in the first installment; the increased violence is a response to that. And since we're all agreed this movie has nothing to do with the legacy of the original Transformers save the character names, it seems foolhardy to expect the Autobots' noble leader to behave as he always has. Here I am defending this semi-turd. Sigh.
 
Tough crowd here at GTplanet... :lol: Im going to see it this weekend... but come on guys... its a MOVIE... purpose of movie is to entertain... a lot of people here are nit-picking little things in the movie it seems, turning it from a mosquito into an elephant... I will judge for myself this weekend and come back with my findings... the posts about the twins have got me curious... :D
 
Entertainment is as entertainment does.

1.5 hours of mindless violence is entertainment.

2.5 hours of mindless violence with a gripping backstory is Award-winning movie-making. (Peter Jackson reference... again)

2.5 hours of mindless violence mixed with bad acting and a plot not even an 8-year old would believe is pure tedium.

It makes you wish you could fast-forward between the good parts and watch nothing but the hand-to-hand combat. (which, admittedly, is exceptionally fun... especially the limb- and spine- ripping parts. :lol: )
 
Tough crowd here at GTplanet... :lol: Im going to see it this weekend... but come on guys... its a MOVIE... purpose of movie is to entertain... a lot of people here are nit-picking little things in the movie it seems, turning it from a mosquito into an elephant... I will judge for myself this weekend and come back with my findings... the posts about the twins have got me curious... :D

Cinema is a form of art. The purpose of a film is to tell a story. The purpose of movies might be to entertain, but entertainment often has no meaning.
 
I'm still finding the movie entertaining after my 4th time. Have a few gripes with a few minor things. Am glad I got to see the movie at least once in a good cinema as the vocals actually make sense now. Seems those having issues with not being to understand what some people/bots were saying is an issue with how the cinema is set up.

Anyhow limb ripping + bots + Ravage + Soundwave was enough to please me.
 
Ugh. She was even uglier than Megan Fox. But yeah, some even bronzer ho with a metal tail and an extendable tongue. Total bite off of the T-X, but who cares? I can't even remember what happens to her. She goes ape, tears up half the college, and then I began to find my large root beer more exciting at the moment I think...
I have to admit, I think they got the Pretender right. The T-X was pretty lame, nothing more than a female version of Arnold that disrupted the canon. Skynet was familiar with humans and so tried to make a killing machine think, act and behave as humanly as possible, but the problem was that Kristianna Loken played up the machine aspect too much.

I think the Pretender worked because she was a robot trying to be human in a race she had total and utter disdain for, and so the emotioness robotic aspect showed through. Maybe it was just Isobel Lucas' poor acting, but I think she pulled it off in a way that worked, like a social outcast trying to change overnight because they're moved from one context to another. I've seen it before: people act the way they think they're supposed to act. Of course, I don't think Lucas is nearly as nuanced as that, but there's only one other occasion I can name where an actor's inability actually made thier character better for it: Keanu Reeves in SPEED, where he came across as a trigger-happy workaholic who couldn't understand everyday social situations (but I suspect Joss Whedon wrote him that way where as Kurtzmann and Orci didn't do that with the Pretender).
 
Tough crowd here at GTplanet... :lol: Im going to see it this weekend... but come on guys... its a MOVIE... purpose of movie is to entertain... a lot of people here are nit-picking little things in the movie it seems, turning it from a mosquito into an elephant... I will judge for myself this weekend and come back with my findings... the posts about the twins have got me curious... :D

While I do agree with you, I agree with some of the others as well. I've seen the movie twice now, once in a regular DLP theater, the other in IMAX. The story is terrible, and most of the acting is pretty lame as well. But outside of those well-established issues, its a very good-looking movie to the point at which you can't handle it anymore. I've heard one reviewer call it "too much cake," and I've heard others compare it to a "sensory overload" akin to 2001: A Space Odyssey. If there was a way to turn off the sound in this movie, and just watch it, it would be very impressive... A very good tech demo for your Blu-Ray players and your fancy televisions.
 
While I do agree with you, I agree with some of the others as well. I've seen the movie twice now, once in a regular DLP theater, the other in IMAX. The story is terrible, and most of the acting is pretty lame as well. But outside of those well-established issues, its a very good-looking movie to the point at which you can't handle it anymore. I've heard one reviewer call it "too much cake," and I've heard others compare it to a "sensory overload" akin to 2001: A Space Odyssey. If there was a way to turn off the sound in this movie, and just watch it, it would be very impressive... A very good tech demo for your Blu-Ray players and your fancy televisions.

I understand where youre coming from completely.. I mean name me one action movie with an in-depth plot and good acting?? :) Dont think there are many unless you count movies like Saving Private Ryan... but thats not really considered an action genre movie... Now if I want in-depth plots and good acting I would watch something like "The Departed" to name something off the top of my head... But this is Transformers, my expectations when going to a movie like this is full on action, fighting and destruction, possibly total mayhem... thats what I think about when the word Transformers drops... Now I am blabbing on here without even having seen the movie, so maybe I should just go watch it and see what the hub bub is about :) I am going to see it IMAX by the way... so I hope its worth it... :D
 
I mean name me one action movie with an in-depth plot and good acting?? :)
SERENITY. Science-fiction action film, fantastc acting, dynamite script and a terrific plot, the kind that George Lucas sould have been taking note on when creating the Prequel Trilogy.
 
SERENITY. Science-fiction action film, fantastc acting, dynamite script and a terrific plot, the kind that George Lucas sould have been taking note on when creating the Prequel Trilogy.
On that thought, I guess any of the original Star Wars trilogy and (if you like it) some of the Star Trek movies can apply. The stuff that set the standard for sci-fi action always involved socio-political dynamics that were much more complex than anything Michael Bay could even imagine, yet kept plot holes to a bare minimum.

Or the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
The last two Batman movies did a fairly good job.
The first two Spiderman films weren't bad.
Iron Man...well, it had two separate plots.

Really, I could keep this going.

It isn't like Michael Bay is Uwe Boll bad, but then Michael Bay gets material that has a good starting point and would take a concentrated effort to muck up (looking at Pearl Harbor again).
 
On that thought, I guess any of the original Star Wars trilogy and (if you like it) some of the Star Trek movies can apply. The stuff that set the standard for sci-fi action always involved socio-political dynamics that were much more complex than anything Michael Bay could even imagine, yet kept plot holes to a bare minimum.

Or the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
The last two Batman movies did a fairly good job.
The first two Spiderman films weren't bad.
Iron Man...well, it had two separate plots.

Really, I could keep this going.

It isn't like Michael Bay is Uwe Boll bad, but then Michael Bay gets material that has a good starting point and would take a concentrated effort to muck up (looking at Pearl Harbor again).


Ok, I guess there ARE some examples of action movies with good plot and acting... Although is Lord of the Rings really considered an action movie??? I wouldve thought more along the lines of "Fantasy" Genre, like Labyrinth or the Never Ending Story... :lol:

Last Batman 👍 agreed

Iron Man 👍 👍 REALLY agree.. must say that movie was a surprise and I enjoyed it a lot.

Spiderman 👎 have to disagree... never liked the Spiderman movies much even though I was a huge fan of the comic book...
 
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