Turn 1 strategy?

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Is there a common school of thought when it come to surviving turn 1 when starting with the lead? 2 days ago, at the Tokyo Expressway East Outer Loop daily race, I went from pole position to 18th place after 2 turns. I got destroyed by a bunch of cars when I braked for the first turn and fell to 10th, then at turn 2 the same thing happened. I was dead last 30 seconds into the race, after starting P1. The only thing I can think of is stay in the throttle and let the curved outer wall take care of me, then it's smooth sailing. I know there's a penalty, but running the rest of the race clean should take care of it (8 laps). Thoughts?
 
I've done about 400 miles on that track today...see my other post. This track is tough..folks think the 'slow' cars must be easy, but really they require skill and patience. That first corner is all about balls.. no offense. Hang tough, drive clean and hold your line. Go for the inside and hug those barrels and get away from the pack asap. Usually by the 3rd corner the Lear pack pulls away. Drive clean and don't get pushed around as you'll get stuck behind some bad driver who thinks he's fast and won't let you pass. This track is great if you get into the top 4 or 5 after the first corner and actually have to drive, but many think it's a pinball arcade machine and bang bang. I started the day B S there and finished B S there. Use the 200 meter marker as you brake point into the first turn and hug the inside...no one inside...and get on the gas out of that turn, stay on it until 100 meter marker into the right hand turn. You can go thru this corner at 90 and leave them in your dust.
 
Steven, I suppose you're right. I usually brake wide and throttle it to the inside. Next time, I'll stay inside the whole way. On most tracks, when you start from the pole and make it through the first turn or two unscathed, you should win if you don't screw up.
 
For the east inner loop today from pole yes always take the inside line and if in doubt rather brake too late than too early, and enter the curve as quickly as possible. Only got murdered 3 times in around 20 races that way and one of them was my first one that I started from 2nd place and was dumb enough to take the outside line (I was last after the first corner then....).
It is surprisingly easy to overtake the idiots on this track however, the short straights after the two left curves (the medium speed and the fast one) give excellent opportunities as most of them crash into the walls at the exit of those two.
 
Also, if you short shift the Supra, you'll get better times. Do not redline, shift at about 3/4 redline. Do some practice laps and watch the speedo when you shift. Torque Curve Man. Have fun ! ?
 
Steven Keeney
Also, if you short shift the Supra, you'll get better times. Do not redline, shift at about 3/4 redline. Do some practice laps and watch the speedo when you shift. Torque Curve Man. Have fun ! ?
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Haha, yes I also find it amazing how pretty much everyone maxes out the revs when it is obvious that the engine has more power in a lower range. I think there was not a single driver I competed against yesterday on who I didn't gain on on the long straight because everyone else was maxing out the revs. I don't mind tho :)
Also it depends on the gear switch, for 3->4 the RPM drops more than from 4->5. and 5->6, your goal with the Supra would be that after shifting up you start at about 5000 RPM as it's optimum range is between 5000 and 6000 RPM.

EERIEISSSS
This would be the advice I would give. Unsure of what Sportsmanship rating you are but once you are at S the first corner pileups become much rarer!
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The Supra Tokyo races apparently didn't have many players and even the slower S players make mistakes. In the first race I had actually I was about to overtake the pole driver, who hit me - although I knew it wasn't his fault, because I knew he did brake in time. When watching the replay I saw that the whole incident with the pole man hitting me was caused by the guy in 10th place missing his braking point, hitting the 7th and 8th, those being pushed into the 4th and 5th and those two then hitting the pole man, who than crashed into me - and I was the one who crashed into the wall then :)

I gotta say one thing tho: part of this is also PDs fault with their stupid slow ass flying start, causing players to approach the first corner in the race with a different speed as they are used to from the qualifying laps. If this is your first daily race of the day in this car on this track and if you haven't explicitly trained what the braking point at a lower speed would be than you pretty much don't know your braking point. And you really can't expect everyone to be super careful and in doubt brake far too early (which would also be very risky).
I guess there would be far less first corner incidents if PD gave us the green light earlier on the track, so we approach the first corner at the usual racing speed. Also would be a cool tactical element if there was a "no overtake" phase in the rest of the old lap.
 
I usually lift a little early and tap the brakes if I’m on pole going into turn one. That way trailing cars either brake or when they hit me, they just push me through the turn instead of off track. Also depends on the lobby.
 
I did about 6 races in yesterdays Dragon Trail 10 lapper. Started in the top 4 in 5 of of them and drove on my mirrors going into the S bend looking for the lunge that inevitably comes. Avoided the lunge on each occasion but still ended up as collateral damage from the people that tried to defend against it crashing into me.

Preemptive prayers failed miserably on each race so does anyone know where I can buy a rabbit's foot holding a four leaf clover? I'm getting desperate.
 
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I did about 6 races in yesterdays Dragon Trail 10 lapper. Started in the top 4 in 5 of of them and drove on my mirrors going into the S bend looking for the lunge that inevitably comes. Avoided the lunge on each occasion but still ended up as collateral damage from the people that tried to defend against it crashing into me.

Preemptive prayers failed miserably on each race so does anyone know where I can buy a rabbit's foot holding a four leaf clover? I'm getting desperate.
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Since the holidays and the influx of all of the new players to the game I have personally found the Sport races to overall be much worse as far as contact incidents and cases of ramming and so forth and this is in SR S classes.

It has gotten so bad that I have almost taken a break from the Sport races hoping that after few more weeks things will get better as some players get better and some get bored and move on.

I have always avoided the tracks known for their carnage and rarely race the shorter races so that eliminates many of the problem areas. Even the longer races on the "better" circuits are a total crapshoot in the quality of the race available.

I like the new Monza track but with a "bus stop" chicane at the end of the main straight I knew better than even attempt that one.
 
I still enjoyed the racing overall and had some good clean battles through the grid so it wasn't a total disaster. I wouldn't have had those battles if I hadn't got punted off on the first corner.:crazy:

I'll go back to the non qualifying for my racing fix. I can't win from there but I'll get the first corner all to myself and I'll have a nice view of who I need to give a (very) wide berth to. It's not ideal but it's still racing.
 

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