turning a 4wd drifter to a fr drifter

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yes, ppl i do need help and i ain't going to look at the guides but i want to hear ur guy's opinions about me turning in to a fr drifter and i do need help on this
 
Do it!!! or why not just use both, I do but not with as much skill as everyone here.
 
tips on drifting FR's....i dnt think i'm the one you should be asking for the tips...im still learning. 'm using an S13 2000cc with everything but stage 4 turbo on normal tires and that's doin pretty well but you have way more skill and experience then me so I think you'll pick it up pretty fast.
 
just practice heaps...thats what im doing bt i rekon u will et used to it pretty quickly it just spins easier.

BTW: im really bored so if youwant to talk on AIM my sn is groggyhippo.
 
a saying once said
" if the students ask a question the teacher will appear"
or
" the student has taught the master"
 
Well the person that wrote that saying never met me then. I think your better off getting tips form people like silviadrifter and pergatory. the best way to hold it sideways for me is to enter a little bit faster but as i said before im not to great at it...i'm getting better....i think. I just practise lots and work on throttle control because thats where i stuff up.
 
nk4e, i have some advice for you.
first off, 4wd drifting has minimal countersteer in-drift...so youre probably not used to countersteering too much.
also your angles are higher in a 4wd, and you can always rely on ur front wheels to pull u through. here are some basic things you must learn to drift FR;

-the car can only achieve certain angle before it spins out...you must learn to "feel" how much the FR car can get sideways without spinning out. remember you dont have any front wheel power to save you. once u start to lose it, you lose it.

-countersteering skills. you will have to learn to apply countersteer early and hold it correctly through the corner. my general rule of thumb for FR is more countersteer is safer then less. retaining grip early can be fixed with practise, but not countersteering enough will cause spinouts and frustration wich will take longer to conquer.

-start off with a stock car on sims, apply basic drift techniques (sway, feint...) and see how the car responds, try letting it slide out and countersteering late just to see if you can recover, this is how you will learn your countersteering timing.

-practise "tracing", the more your rear end comes out, the more you countersteer.

-its better to start off with short small drifts than to try and produce big angle drifts off the bat. starting with smaller drifts will allow you attempt making them longer and experimenting with throttle and steering.

it might take a while, but dont get frustrated...i hope my tips help.
 
i got half way of tokyo done ill try posting a vid but beware there are some mistakes i made
 
ooo and another thing.
i STRONGLY recommend you practise here.

my garage/apricot hill

right off the bat it sets you up into a slight downhill left-turn, not too wide not to short. PERFECT practise turn!!

and everyone recommends the AE86, i dont. take a stock s13 or an FC, and maybe give the car a 1.5 limited slip if your finding it hard to kick the back out.

that should do it:D
 
ill try it but i have a stock 180sx type fastback and the drifts look perfect
 
well even if it doesnt help NK4E it sure helped me! thanks man.
 
glad to hear it. he definatey explainet better than i did but i didnt really explain anything.sorry about that.
 
yeah...don't go too fast, and start the first turn early with a feint ...

then slide and brake if you have to, to slow the car down for the 2nd turn...but you have to keep your weight transfering to your passenger rear other wise you will just grip and go straight into the wall and be pissed...

make sure you scrub off enough speed when you are sliding though the mini straight, because on the second turn you have to go pretty slow to keep the drift on the road.
 
Originally posted by FreewayDrifter
while we are on the subject, does anyone have any tips on FR drifting the long turn after the staight on apricot?

watever you do... don't speed for you will end up in the DIRT...

you can either start the turn early or late depending on how long you want to drift...

wut i do is i start my turn in in 5th gear... i lightly break to and shift to 4th as i come across the middle of the turn (at this point i'm facing the corner exit) and as i'm sliding across the turn at a fast speed, i break and shift to 3rd and from there you can either exit straight or attempt to link to the next corner(s)...

i tried my best to explain how to drift turn 1 of Apricot Hill (although i'm not very good at explaining things), and if you watched the "Drift Bible" i'd say this corner is a combination of the BRAKE Drift, and the DYNAMIC Drift...

Hope i helped ya out a lil :)
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki
-the car can only achieve certain angle before it spins out...you must learn to "feel" how much the FR car can get sideways without spinning out. remember you dont have any front wheel power to save you. once u start to lose it, you lose it.

-countersteering skills. you will have to learn to apply countersteer early and hold it correctly through the corner. my general rule of thumb for FR is more countersteer is safer then less.

Damn, beat me to it again! ;) These are the two most important things to keep in mind when switching between the two platforms, in my opinion. In fact they're really the only things you need to pay attention to, everything else will come naturally from your subconscious after a lap or two. Also remember that you set up for a corner earlier in FR, and be careful with the throttle near the apex as it is very sensitive at the inside of the corner, unlike AWD where throttle = go no matter what you're doing.

Also, I agree that the 86 is a bad learning car in GT3. It's a great learning car in real life because it has such great balance that you can feel exactly what the car is doing the whole time, so it's a lot easier to see your mistakes. Unfortunately, in GT3, that advantage is lost because the only feel you get is through the force feedback which is just a small part of the big picture.
 
AWD drifting is becoming to boring for me and by learing how to drift a fr is like imporving my skill as a 4wd drifter
 
hey 4wd is not boring its just got too easy for me and i just need to learn a few things from FR drifting
 
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