TVR Sagaris & T350

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I am a bit confused. Since TVRs are rare here, I don't get to see the difference much.

So, what's the difference between the 2? Is one a concept of the other? Or do they have different engines?
I know live4speed knows this.
Probably Famine too.
 
The Sagaris is a hard-core version of the T350 destined for a one make race series to replace the Tuscan Challange which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
 
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Actually, yes I did. And all I got were reviews on both cars.
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The first thing I got was the official TVR site, which had descriptions clearly showed the difference between the two cars.
 
Basically,the sagaris is a t350 with an axe taken to it
 
It seems differences between the two have been explained in thoes links, theres a shed load of differences between the two cars besides the looks as you can see. The Sagaris uses the engine from the Tuscan S, has a wider track and generates higher levels of downforce. Both the T350 and Sagaris will have race variants.
 
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Sexy as hell; I really love the looks of this car, one of my favorites...
 
I was really impressed that TVR had the guts to put out something as extreme as that. I had a lot of respect for that, until I ofund out that the slits on the hood don't even work. That really did it for me, a true disappointment. If they're there, make them work, sheesh!
 
Actually, thats not true, the slits DID work and on the racing versions DO work. The problem was, when driving on a wet, muddy road, everything would come up through thoes slits and splash onto the windscreen. Mudy water splashing on you're windsreen at 40Mph is not good. So they just kept the styling and closed them up for the road version.
 
They still don't work. What I said was true. I completely understand though.

Heck, even the left intake on my Lotus Elise doesn't work. :)
 
It depends what context you mean, because they do work, they complete the cars styling ;). It's no reason to not have respect for the car though.
 
I get the same message in my head as I see vents on a Civic. TVR put them on for the same reason as that whole tuning culture; they look cool.
 
But that wasn't the case, was it. As I said, they were there for a purpose, unfotunately the end result was a little too dangerous, so they simply closed them up for the road version. They kept them there because itwas what people expected the Sagaris to look like, and at the same time it saved them having to redesign that area of the car.
 
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They kept them there because itwas what people expected the Sagaris to look like
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Eventhough those exact slits were what 95% of the public disliked about the Sagaris. It's busy, accessorized look was completely attributed to the trillions of 'speed holes' on the body (and the odd exhaust setup, which they fixed).

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and at the same time it saved them having to redesign that area of the car.
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Not designing anything doesn't count as redisigning.

I still love the car and the company. I think the deisgn would have benifited a lot with a smoother surface.
 
TVR don't care about 95% of the public. 95% of the public would never buy a car like a TVR no matter what it looked like because it's a weekend car and it has pretty much no practical purpose at all. It's the 5% that may be potential customers TVR wan't, like me (if only I had the money), the Sagaris looks a lot different from the T350, thoes slits are one of the main things that set them apart looks wise, I think TVR did the right thing leaving them there. At the end of the day, they're only closed because it's not good to have mud splashed all over you're windscreen driving a 400Bhp rwd car. If you want them open get the right tools and do it yourself, if you can affrd 50k on a weekend car you can afford to hav the slits cut by someone, it won't improve things for road driving though. Another reason they didn't want to re-design that area was because of all the wind testing, thoes slits even though not open, still have an effect on the aerodynamics, to what extent I don't know, but I do know subtle changes can have quite an effect.
 
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TVR don't care about 95% of the public. 95% of the public would never buy a car like a TVR no matter what it looked like because it's a weekend car and it has pretty much no practical purpose at all. It's the 5% that may be potential customers TVR wan't, like me (if only I had the money), the Sagaris looks a lot different from the T350, thoes slits are one of the main things that set them apart looks wise, I think TVR did the right thing leaving them there. At the end of the day, they're only closed because it's not good to have mud splashed all over you're windscreen driving a 400Bhp rwd car. If you want them open get the right tools and do it yourself, if you can affrd 50k on a weekend car you can afford to hav the slits cut by someone, it won't improve things for road driving though. Another reason they didn't want to re-design that area was because of all the wind testing, thoes slits even though not open, still have an effect on the aerodynamics, to what extent I don't know, but I do know subtle changes can have quite an effect.
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You raise a good point, in seperating the two models. I really do find that I like the design of the Sagaris, when superimposed with the 350 (I've said that since the start). If I were too buy one, lemme tell you, those slits would be opened up in no time...
 

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