eliseracer
You just completely changed your statement. In fact, I fail to see a single link between the two things you said.
I'll use Green Day as an example, as I know a fair bit about them. They made most of their mainstream fame in 2004, so that's where I'm presuming that you're taking that kind of a stance from.
They are not amateurs, in fact when you compare them to Tool, they're freaking veterans. GD has been releasing records since 1989, which is longer than Tool's first release in 1992. So much for the YEARS of experience argument, eh? They ain't amateurs, there are some things that BJ plays that are fairly complex riffs, written when he was 16 or 17, and singing while running through it. Take a listen to what they play with an open mind, you'll find that there's a lot more to it. It also takes a bit of skill to writing a rock-opera absolutely perfectly, getting away with making an album title like that, not offending subsequent religious and political entities and selling millions of copies.
There's a certain amount of to jealousy to it, you have to admit. You're mad 'cause some group of kids that grew up in a punk squaters building can make more money that your "virtuosic" laser-guitarists.
That's life, and business though: "Learn one chord, play punk and make millions, learn two chords, play rock and make millions, learn three chords, play jazz and starve to death."
TOOL has only been a band together since the time, they all have been playing a fair amount of time before that. Alot of Greenday stuff was popular when Dookie came out, of coarse i know alot about them to, they live in my area! Greenday has only made more money because of MTV and VH1 promotion. TOOL gets most of there stuff money from going to Rock festivals, and CD sales. Wile Greenday has alot of Airtime on the radio, and TV, thanks for the promotion by MTV, and VH1. Know one owuld know who the hell Greenday was if it wernt for MTV. I think TOOL is betetr cause they explore music alot more. Greenday is just well kinda PUNK/Alternative, kinda boring and alot of there stuff sounds the same. Wile TOOL explores, Metal, ALT Metal, Progressive Rock, Sci Fi type music, kinda like Pink Floyd, really spacey kinda stuff. Punk has grown off of roots of Progressive Rock. Wich were created by Rush, King Crimson, and being carried on by Dream Theater, Helmet, TOOL. Dream Theater isn't new either. This year the touring for there 20th aniversary, and they have been playing LONG before that. Have you listened to John Myung's Bass, or John Petettruci's Guitar solos, or even Mike Portnoy's drums. They are veterans, there the ones that passed the essence of Robert Fripp, Alex Lifeson, Neil Peart, there the reavolutionary Guitar/Drum players, that really revolutioned Rock. There isnt much history behind Punk, it's been around awile yes, but Progressive Rock has been around MUCH longer, and most bands of the early Prog Rock days, in the 50's still play today. Wile Punk haso nly been around around 30 years, or so, it's all been changed alot, to somthing that all sounds the same, and Emo like. Witch really only catches eyes of young viewers that don't know much about there history of music, or the music they listen to. I play bass my self, alot of punk is pretty damn easy to play, but i've tried to play some of Dream Theaters, or TOOL's stuff, even Rush, or Deep Purple, it's much harder to play, and takes ALOT OF PRACTICE. I can play Smoke on the Water, but thats about theo only progressive i can play. I please don't think i'm a Prog Rock fan boy, i listen to every single music i can posibally can, i have XM on my computer, it's just Prog catches somthing that most other music genres to have, and thats all the hard work they put into being known, with out series names and help from MTV. When i see MTV i see Alternative/Punk, Rap, Pop, Hip-Hop, theres good stuff in every genre. But thats just about what i've seen on MTV, sometimes you do see veterans such as U2, Tom Petty, Neil Young, or The Rolling Stones. But not as often as young people who quit high school for a carrer in music, instead of actually learning stuff, and studing the history of music, and getting a sense of music, and who really did create the all the music that modern music branches off of. Alot of modern music sings about politcal stuff, wich i think is stupid. To me music is saposed to get away from those kind of things. To me music is saposed to lift you off your feet, and take you off into some amazing world, and when you close your eyes, and listen to TOOL, or Pink Floyd it can creep you out, cause it really makes you like your somewere elese. When listening to Greenday there always talking about Bush, well most of the time, and i feel like i'm watchign a debate between him and Kerry, or Gore or whomeever. It really gets to me and bugs me. Another thing is Punk gets really repetitive, you hear alot of the same things, they talk about troubles with girls, then there off to do drugs, witch they wish they did, but probally don't, then talk about cheating or somthing. And it kinda just sounds the thing. But when you hear other songs, just about random things, like Dream Theater, YES they do i have some songs about terrorists, but it's different, it takes you to there land, not a redneck talking about them, and making bad desicsions. I truely don't care about how Bill Joe Armstrong feels about Bush, keep it to your self, and don't yell **** BUSH, in the middle of your concerts.
Well i better stop now, even though i can go on forever...