Unrealistic gear changes

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When using a DS3 or the shifter paddles on a wheel, why do ALL cars change gear in e few hundreds of a second? Even historics and manual only cars change gear in like .01 second. This is totally unrealistic, and a major disadvantage when using the clutch on a wheel.

Don't know why the got it wrong, it wasn't a problem in GT4:

If you had a stock car, it would take more than a few tenths to change gear. Then again, if you were driving a JGTC car, gear changes would only take a couple of hundreds of a second.

And even then there was a sligth delay.

What I'm getting at is this. In a manual stock car:
  • gear change with wheel + clutch: slow and realistic
  • gear change with wheel + paddles: unrealistically fast
  • gear change with DS3: unrealistically fast

Or in other words: if a car doesn't have gear paddles, it shouldn't change gear that quickly. It should have some delay on it, like in GT4.

So what do you guys think? Not an issue or do you find it annoying?

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Just to make sure, I'm not talking about the animation of changing gear. I'm only referring to the actual time it takes to change gear.
 
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One can tell the difference between a stock car VS one with clutch & flywheel upgrades.
But I think it's rather more having to do with the following: GT5 is a whole lot more popular with owners having wheels (most GT4 players used controller) so if you think about it, you changing gear (manually with an H-shifter) and then having "lag" between you selecting gear and the on-screen character actually changing the gear would make it unbearable.
You basically already took the time to change the gear in real life (with manual setup) so why would it make you wait a little longer?
 
TP1
You basically already took the time to change the gear in real life (with manual setup) so why would it make you wait a little longer?
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Maybe I wasn't clear in my OP. Changing gear with a wheel when using the clutch is fine. It's when using the shifter paddles or a DS3 that you gain an unfair advantage. Changing gear with the paddles or DS3 is always faster than using the clutch on a wheel, even if it's a manual car.

So in my opinion, there should be a delay for the DS3 and shifter paddles on manual (non semi-automatic) cars to make things more even.
 
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Its not that fast in every car. I just raced in a Honda Civic Type-R 97' and the gear change takes about 5 hours :P
 
BobaFett
Its not that fast in every car. I just raced in a Honda Civic Type-R 97' and the gear change takes about 5 hours :P
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Yes, there is some variation depending on the car and the upgrades. But compared to GT4, the same cars now change gear much faster. But only when using the paddles or a DS3.
 
Yeah RIGHT THIS SECOND i'm driving my bone stock MR2 using the paddle shifters on my wheel and the gear change takes a good half a second

I'm very satisfied.

(A bit of real world facts - a Formula 1 car shifts gears 4 times faster than a human blink)
 
I've noticed it particularly on the ZR1 in 4th, 5th and 6th gears.

Ironically, the F1 cars shift way too slow :dunce:
 
Can you get a video of these 0.1 second gear changes?
 
I'm a pad user and I' like the gear changes to be slower. Changing gear should see your speed decrease by a mph or two but in GT5 the speed remains constant.

If I change gear the driver animation should be the trigger for a gear change instead of the gear changing and then the animation taking place.
 
In GT5:P, you could tell who was using H-Shifter and clutch online, as they were able to pull away in the same car just by "forcing" the gear quicker, and "riding the clutch" (in the game, it's not quite realistic, but it's the same effect - power is transmitted sooner) whilst those with sequential shifting had to wait for the revs to match before power is reapplied.

Maybe they've tried to address that disparity a bit? Some skilled drivers can really make the H-shifter work in their favour, and there were a few cheats that allowed flat-shifting, too. For most drivers, though, the H-shifter is prone to causing mistakes, i.e. mis-shifting, especially if 1st or 2nd gear are involved, so I think it's difficult to balance overall.
 
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