USGP.... where?

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the USGP will apparently not return next year :(. but if it was, and not held at Indy, where should that race be held? after playing GT5P, Daytona would be a fun race to watch, maybe even Laguna Seca. everybody has there own ideas, lets hear 'em!
 
I couldn't see them at Daytona just because of the speeds, and Laguna Seca would be intersting because of the cork screw but CART raced their so it might work. I think they should come back to Detroit like they did in the 80's. We need it since ALMS and IRL might not come back. Watkins Glen could also be a good track since it has history with F1 back in the 60's. I really don't care where they race I just want them to come back. I thought I remember hearing most the teams do want to come back because of we are a big part of the companies auto sales.
 
Laguna Seca's corkscrew wouldn't pass FIA safety.

Watkins Glen is too small and I don't think any other Ovals would be any better than Indianapolis was.

What we need is a street circuit in the US because the races at Detroit were always great because of the level of attrition.
That or a new circuit because none of the current ones in the US are suitable, they all don't work for one reason of another, be it not meeting FIA safety standards, not having enough run-off area or not having enough space to create more run-off.
Oh and naturally being able to pay for the FOM fees is obviously a must. Some of these circuits don't have the necessary backing.

The manufacturers wanted a North American event - they've got one now. They weren't pushing for a US race, just one on the continent.
 
Why doesn't the corkscrew pass? This Toyota F1 takes it perfectly fine.

 
Do I really have to answer that? I would have thought its pretty obvious.

To save the repetitive posts - its because the steepness wouldn't be considered safe for F1 standards. The run off is inadequate and I think the facilities and pits would need upgrading.
I can just imagine some idiot like Yuji Ide flying over someone at the corkscrew and we've already had some close calls with Coulthard over Wurz a couple of years ago.
 
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Hmm, I see. If not, then Daytona Road is next on the wishlist. It's not too fast, is it? If there aren't enough corners, maybe they can add some more corners to it? Any ideas?
 
I think Daytona Road would be too dull as there isn't much space on the track for overtaking. It suffers the same problems as Indianapolis and I don't know how good the backing is there but I'd rather not have the US GP at ovals just for the sake of holding a USGP. They don't work.

If they can find the backing and support, I would much rather have a new circuit built or a street course. One that would focus on attrition, because we are sorely lacking that nowadays.
 
I can't believe no one has mention Road America. Other than Laguna Seca it is the best American course i can think of, or even better than Seca. It's nice and long and they race ALMS on the course so i imagine it should be pretty much up to F1 regulations, or wouldnt need much to get it there.

 
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Good to see an F1 car on Laguna Seca, though watching it through the corkscrew you can see exactly why that wouldnt work with a full field of cars....

Going to be fun taking the F2007 round there on GT5 (see if you can beat Toyota's 1.06.309 record!)
 
I'd second the nomination of Road America, though facilities would likely need upgrading.

Other options would be Long Beach (street circuit), and Sebring. I'd love to see F1 at Laguna Seca. I don't buy the safety arguments, but truth be told, it's very hard to pass there, so it may make for some dull racing.
 
Vaxen
I'd second the nomination of Road America, though facilities would likely need upgrading.

Other options would be Long Beach (street circuit), and Sebring. I'd love to see F1 at Laguna Seca. I don't buy the safety arguments, but truth be told, it's very hard to pass there, so it may make for some dull racing.
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Road America looks like its a great fun track to drive (I'd certainly love to see it in GT for example!), but looks like it would need a hell of a lot spending on it to get it up to FOMs standards for pitlane/grandstands etc...

Cant help but think if F1 does come back to the US it will either be to a newly built track,. or a street circuit. (more likley than not the latter given how FOM seem really into their street circuits at the moment....
 
Infineon Raceway anyone? Very good track, with tricky, undulating corners. Not sure if it's safe, though.

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Road Atlanta could work, and it's fairly interesting! Driving on it was a blast on several games. And they probably wouldn't mind upgrading as the track is used for Petit Le Mans as well.
 
F1 really prides itself on the appearance of its tracks and let's face it, Road Atlanta and Road America are simply nothing close to what they're looking for on that level. That kind of road surface wouldn't be as good for F1 as well.

I'd love to see Laguna Seca. Everyone always says it can't be done because of the corkscrew but it's simply not true. Maybe the facilities could use some renovations, but the corkscrew is as dangerous as other corners on the F1 calender. Hell, look at Eau Rouge -- are we going to take Spa off the calendar? No way. Unless someone literally flew threw the corner like an idiot without braking or something, I can't see anything terrible happening. It's a very low speed corner to, so ideally it's not as big a worry as one might imagine.

Champ Car raced on Laguna Seca and it is one of the better road courses in America to be quite frank. I don't see much sense in driving around a mainly oval course like Indy or Daytona (although Indy is actually decent) in Formula 1, which is simply not its style.
 
Conquerer
F1 really prides itself on the appearance of its tracks and let's face it, Road Atlanta and Road America are simply nothing close to what they're looking for on that level. That kind of road surface wouldn't be as good for F1 as well.
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They could repave the snot out of it. :D
 
Why not a medium sized oval? If that should be too fast for FIA they could use restrictor plates or something ?
I for one would love to see that since oval racing i.e Nascar isn't broadcast here in Germany anymore. Just an idea 💡
 
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Why not a medium sized oval? If that should be too fast for FIA they could use restrictor plates or something ?
I for one would love to see that since oval racing i.e Nascar isn't broadcast here in Germany anymore. Just an idea 💡
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No thanks. 👎

I watch F1 for the challenge to the drivers, ovals just aren't challenging with that much downforce.
And I believe even NASCAR fans hate restrictor plates....
 
H20HYBRID_GT
Why not a medium sized oval? If that should be too fast for FIA they could use restrictor plates or something ?
I for one would love to see that since oval racing i.e Nascar isn't broadcast here in Germany anymore. Just an idea 💡
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Oval racing is an American sport first of all. F1 is Euro based and very different. Very many people would be against that and it is completely outside of the tradition of F1. Having one race a year on an oval would be ridiculous as well. The engines aren't built to endure that kind of stress constantly throughout the entire race.
 
Conquerer
Oval racing is an American sport first of all. F1 is Euro based and very different. Very many people would be against that and it is completely outside of the tradition of F1. Having one race a year on an oval would be ridiculous as well. The engines aren't built to endure that kind of stress constantly throughout the entire race.
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Actually, the "tradition" of F1....
Oval circuits used to be part of the F1 calendar and the Indy 500 used to be a championship race. So thats utter rubbish.
 
If they want a oval then they should try Bristol :lol:, NASCARs do 16 second laps, I'd love to see a F1 car there, never gonna happen :(

EDIT: Wasn't the old Monza an oval? Like back in the 60's or something.
 
^Yup and there used to be an oval in Spain I believe too. Oval racing was a big thing internationally back in the day.
 
Bristol might be too short? ;)

Ah well it was just an idea but I think a fast oval would be a great challenge for F1, certainly less dull than Valencia :P
 
Ardius
Actually, the "tradition" of F1....
Oval circuits used to be part of the F1 calendar and the Indy 500 used to be a championship race. So thats utter rubbish.
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It's really not since F1 has evolved an incredible amount since then. It's immensely European-focused and has been for the past 20-30 years. Comparing the sport near its beginning to now is a massive difference.

Oval racing is completely different from road racing and having one race a year on an oval would stick out like a sore thumb in many ways, including to the dislike of many drivers I'd predict.
 
My pick would be Miller Motorsports Park, just outside Salt Lake City. Preferably the full version, which is slightly longer than Spa (but still in the maximum allowable circuit length). And the people who namedthe turns actually have a sense of humour. That's something missing from most modern circuits: the corners are simply numbered.

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I hope the Belle Isle street course will be put into consideration. That event deserves to be saved.
 
No street courses, They suck seriously, They just need to take it back to what it was before and bring back the old school courses instead of gimmicks like night races and the such. If it has to be any american track I think probably Road America would be the best suited to an F1 event but really all the races at indy really sucked.
 
And I'd rather the FIA not have to wreck Road America with runoff zones, AstroTurf and chicanes in the middle of straights because the only way that track could qualify for a modern F1 event is with a complete overhaul on the place. Anything but Road America please, it will be ruined.
 

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