Using 25nm at 25nm. Practical issues WRT realismPC 

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Can anyone advise?
I don't care about what I "prefer" or what "my feelings" say is realistic. I want Assetto Corsa to output the exact newton metres a particular car outputs in real life. Like buying a top level GPU and not caring about FPS anymore I bought a 25nm base and I don't want to care about nm anymore. I want the real forces.


When I set the R25 to 25nm and kill all dampers in Moza Pithouse to get the rawest feel, the corners are at an awesome 25nm but the slightest vibration is excessive. Going 20 miles an hour jolts the wheel an inhuman and unrealistic amount left and right. Taking a hairpin at 30mph requires the same 25nm as a corner at 200mph.

I am using Extended FFB 1.9 and using "Output real car NM to steering wheel." I also use FFBClip with Hardware limit at 25nm and desired target output at 25nm. Dynamic OFF.


Can anyone advise?

-Maybe delete FFBclip?
-Use FFBAntiClip?

Is there anyone else on here who is interested in real forces?




References:


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Proof that late 80's early 90's F1 cars used 25nm:

This is a Google Groups post from 03 november 1999 (old timers will remember Google Groups as something that prehistoric internet users called the new "Usenet"). This is from before AI, before Youtube and before Google and even before any simulators. You can look this up on Google Groups / Usenet. The post quotes information from an Italian criminal trial from 1997.

”prosecution expert, colonel Allgas.

The force required to break a [non damaged, intact] steering column is of 90 newton/metre,

while Mr. Senna could only have managed to produce a force of up to 25

newton/metre given that he was steering at 309 km/h with an

aerodynamic weight of about two ton. “

It references Tamburello corner at Imola in 1994. The corner was 9.3m wide and taken at ~310kph with about two tonnes weight in downforce.

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Modern GT3 driver saying he finds cars without powersteering "impossible" to drive:


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When I set the R25 to 25nm and kill all dampers in Moza Pithouse to get the rawest feel, the corners are at an awesome 25nm but the slightest vibration is excessive.

Try reviving the dampers. Normally, dampers are meant to reduce oscillations and resonanse problems. It shouldn't reduce the torque output, it just means that you'd be less likely to have the wheel swing back and forth unnaturally.
 
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