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Ok, I recently got in arugement with this kid in my math class over engines. He had this magazine that had nothing but Ford Focuses in it. After he finished saying something else about the car, he said that the Focus had a V4. Now, I've heard of I-4s or just plain old 4 bangers, but never a v4. My question is (which it probely does in some part of the world) does the v4 really exist and does the focus have one? thanks for your help in advanced.
 
I believe that there are V4's in motorcycles also.

I don't think the Ford Focus comes stock with a V4. If it does, I wonder how reliable it is :rolleyes:
 
Yes, the Focus runs an i4. I'm told that, although a V4 would save space, mounting one in an FF car would be a nightmare. I haven't got a clue, so accept this blindly.

Oh, there is a Focus which Ford are showing off at the moment. It's FR and wears a 5.0 Cammer V8.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
:lol: tell you're friend he's a dumbass :lol:
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You think his friend is a dumbass when it comes to cars? My friend (ironically also in my math class) once said "Ferrari has no racing heritage"...

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
What a moron...
 
Originally posted by Famine
Yes, the Focus runs an i4. I'm told that, although a V4 would save space, mounting one in an FF car would be a nightmare. I haven't got a clue, so accept this blindly.
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Subaru used to run FF with a boxer four, which is basically a 180 degree V4.

Oh, there is a Focus which Ford are showing off at the moment. It's FR and wears a 5.0 Cammer V8.
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Madness.
 
I hear people all the time call I-4's V4's just cause they don't know any better. Some people are just car stupid.
 
i know a company used to produce V4 engines but i am not sure who or what the name is or if they are still around. my dad used to drive a midget about 6-7 years ago that had a 'Scat' V4 in it, many people hated the sound it made but i thought it was really cool.
 
Originally posted by 1mic
that guy should be shot...
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couldnt agree with you more. My neighbour has a focus svt and it has an inline 4. Its slightly modded though so its pumping almost a bit over 200. Its a sleeper though so no external mods except for a performance exhaust (not one large enough to stick your hand into...a couple finger maybe.)
 
I know lots of bike's now a days are running V-Twins....... Honda's R51 is a prime example. I wouldnt be able to say in cars. The focus is for sure a inline motor. If you think mounting a V-4 in a FF car would be hard.... Look at the Transverse mounted V-8 northstars in almost every new cadillac.... or I believe it was stephan papadakis' drag Civic that had a longitudaly mounted I-4 that was FF...... that really really impresses me.
 
Neon mentioned something about being able to put a mustang engine in the focus and converting it to rear wheel drive... that would be hte ultimate sleeper focus... lol...
 
This is one of the few fords i would ever think of buying... prolly would be a hsit load more expensive than the focuses of today...
 
The Mitsubishi Panjero Mini(not sold in the US) runs/ran a V4. Subaru currently runs "flat" 4s which have the cylinders at 180 degrees of eachother as Vat touched on. Only problem with that compared to a regular I4 is that deposits collect on the bottom of the cylinder and can potentially cause problems.
Also I believe possibly Porsche ran "boxer" 4s which have the cylinders in a box configuration, like taking a I4 and cutting the block in half and putting the halfs next to eachother. But then you have to have 2 crankshafts and stuff.
I4s are the most economical, easy to maintain, and cost effective.
 
there are quite a few cars that use the horizontaly opposed configuration, but i havent herd of any with 2 crankshafts?
 
How could you not have 2 crankshafts? You can't connect the pistons of all 4 cylinders to 1 crankshaft...
 
just get a V4 or V6 and flatten it out.....flat.....one crankshaft....
 
Originally posted by MazKid
The Mitsubishi Panjero Mini(not sold in the US) runs/ran a V4. Subaru currently runs "flat" 4s which have the cylinders at 180 degrees of eachother as Vat touched on. Only problem with that compared to a regular I4 is that deposits collect on the bottom of the cylinder and can potentially cause problems.
Also I believe possibly Porsche ran "boxer" 4s which have the cylinders in a box configuration, like taking a I4 and cutting the block in half and putting the halfs next to eachother. But then you have to have 2 crankshafts and stuff.
I4s are the most economical, easy to maintain, and cost effective.
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Two cranks? I'd have to see some proof on that. To the best of my knowledge, Boxer 4s (which is synonymous with Flat) use only one crank.

I don't know how much of a problem the deposits are. Subarus seem to go quite some time on their little Flat 4s.
 
Originally posted by MazKid
How could you not have 2 crankshafts? You can't connect the pistons of all 4 cylinders to 1 crankshaft...
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Why not? That's what inlines do. I believe the firing order of the flat is very different from inline - as I recall, two cylinders fire at once to balance the engine.

If you've ever heard an uncorked Subie, it sure sounds that way. :trouble:
 
mazkid the two banks of cylinders are connected to the crankshaft in the same way as Vee configurated engine (exept they are horizonal to each other, hence the term horizontaly opposed)
 
Originally posted by MazKid
How could you not have 2 crankshafts? You can't connect the pistons of all 4 cylinders to 1 crankshaft...
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Boxer motors are the same as flat motors....... Hell go back and play the Boxer Spirit Series in GT3 in which you could use Subaru's or the Ruf 3400 which is essentially the Porsche Boxster.
 
I was thinking boxer like this:
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OO
Where "O" is a cylinder, where they are all vertical.

Maybe I was thinking of something else, but if you have them all vertical in a box shape(2 cyl by 2 cyl), you can't have 1 crank.
 
They would never make and engine like the one drawn above... it would be way to complicated and the loss would be paramount...

The reason why boxer motors are named the way they are is becuase the flat/horizontally opposed engine fires in a way that emulates a boxer punching... nothing more nothing less
 
Originally posted by bengee
They would never make and engine like the one drawn above... it would be way to complicated and the loss would be paramount...
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thats right, there would be no point
 

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