Veyron, GT9, or SSC?

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Another car matched (or broke) the Veyron's speed record... the 9FF GT9. The SSC also broke the Veyron's speed record, averaging top speed runs of 255mph at the time and the Veyron of course with its nearly 254mph top speed. The GT9 seemed to have just edged out 253mph.

But which three would you rather have?

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I personally still pull for the Veyron.
 
Sorry, but it's gotta be the Veyron. All these cars are great, but when you're paying $1.4 million for a car that can go fast, and still is easy to live with, you know you're buying a pretty good car, especially when the car is engineered by a very well-respected company.
 
Same here, Veyron all the way. The SSC doesn't appeal to me one bit, the 9ff appeals even less. There are supercars that arn't as fast that appeal to me far more than thoes two, but the Veyron is a magnificet showpiece of auto technology and brilliance. As fast as it is, it's not a track monster (though very capable on the track) but it appeals in other ways too.
 
The Porsche looks stupid, but I like it technically better in my opinion. The SSC is just a test for breaking a speed record, so it should be the Veyron. I don't exactly like the Veyron much, but I don't really prefer the other alternatives.
 
Veyron. You'd be very dumb to chose the SSC - it looks, feels and probably drives like a backyard project. Oh wait, it is... No question on the big-money Bugaters.
 
Dumb to choose the SSC, really? Well lets see with the Veyron you get a car that can't do much other than straight line because of its ridiculous curb weight. It's something i would expect from Mercedes, huge raw power with tons of forced induction and a ton of weight.

Who cares if it has a nice interior? Its pedigree is minimal, Bugatti has done almost nothing in the last 50 years outside the EB110 and that, that was a supercar, but had to be designed by different people.

I wouldnt want any of the cars, but at about 1/3 of the price I'll take the SSC since its faster and its a real drivers car, weighing over 1000lbs less than the Veyron.

Anyone can make a car go fast with 16 cylinders, 4 turbos, and 10 radiators, its just a half-a$$ed way to do it.

Makes me yearn for the days of the McLaren
 
It's not raw power, it's refined, distilled and extremely precisely manufactured power. If I'm going supersonic, I would want only the very best engineering behind anything I touch. The SCC just doesn't seem like it's quite there. It's a rocket sled, whereas the Veyron is a completely different league. Completely daily-driver compatible, reliable, fast, and capable. All the reviews I've read remind me of the first Cayenne reviews at first - this thing shouldn't feel this nimble and sportscar-like for such a beast.

It's just a matter of fit and manufacturing knowledge. I don't consider the SCC more than a grenade, whereas the 16/4 is a polished precision machine.
 
It's not raw power, it's refined, distilled and extremely precisely manufactured power. If I'm going supersonic, I would want only the very best engineering behind anything I touch. The SCC just doesn't seem like it's quite there. It's a rocket sled, whereas the Veyron is a completely different league. Completely daily-driver compatible, reliable, fast, and capable. All the reviews I've read remind me of the first Cayenne reviews at first - this thing shouldn't feel this nimble and sportscar-like for such a beast.

It's just a matter of fit and manufacturing knowledge. I don't consider the SCC more than a grenade, whereas the 16/4 is a polished precision machine.

How can you say that without having driven either? Regardless i havent really read any reviews on the SCC either so who knows.

If im buying a supercar it should be quick and nimble, not a fast boat. That's why the Veyron is still way out of the McLaren F1's league.
 
Dumb to choose the SSC, really? Well lets see with the Veyron you get a car that can't do much other than straight line because of its ridiculous curb weight. It's something i would expect from Mercedes, huge raw power with tons of forced induction and a ton of weight.

Who cares if it has a nice interior? Its pedigree is minimal, Bugatti has done almost nothing in the last 50 years outside the EB110 and that, that was a supercar, but had to be designed by different people.

I wouldnt want any of the cars, but at about 1/3 of the price I'll take the SSC since its faster and its a real drivers car, weighing over 1000lbs less than the Veyron.

Anyone can make a car go fast with 16 cylinders, 4 turbos, and 10 radiators, its just a half-a$$ed way to do it.

Makes me yearn for the days of the McLaren
My word, how wrong is this post. Firs tof all, the Veyron can't turn, pretty much every test dissagrees with you. It isn't an out an out track car, but it's very nimble and agile and I urge you to find something that's proves that it can't turn, please.

As for pedigree, Bugatti has a lot of pedigree, they made the finest cars around when they were running properly. Just because there has been a big gap, it doesn't erase that fact, the Bugatti name and badge is synominous with class and that is what VAG are doing with the Veyron. Like the car or not, this point is also flawed.

Finally, anyone can make a car go fast with 16 cylinder, 4 turbos and 10 radiators, that's actually the truest statment of the lot, but try making it fast and reliable enough to give a standard 3 year warranty and not just fast but 243mph fast with a pre-determined shape, easy enough to use on a daily bases and nible enough to corner better than a lot of sportscars. there is so much more involved than simply dialing in the power, VAG could have given it a heaps more power than they did but the warrty would be out the window, the reliability would be out the window and you'd likely see tinnes of turbo lag. It's 4 turbo's for a good reason. The Veyron was built with a crap load of people in the industry saying VAG are mad, it can't be done. If it was so easy, why where people saying it was impossible? Why did it take so long to figure out? Why did it cost so damn much? Like or loath it, try posting facts please. You can hate a car give real reasons why you know.



EDIT: You don't seem to know much about this. Even Gordon Murray, I assume you know who he is, has given the Veyron the big thumbs up for how well it goes around a track. He actually argued that despite it not being billed as such, that on the track it actually felt most at home and that driving it hard was there cars strong point.

Research never did any harm. I still have the issue of TopGear he wrote that article in.
 
Dumb to choose the SSC, really? Well lets see with the Veyron you get a car that can't do much other than straight line because of its ridiculous curb weight. It's something i would expect from Mercedes, huge raw power with tons of forced induction and a ton of weight.

:rolleyes: Read just one review. Just ONE REVIEW. Incredible engineering can overcome a LOT of stuff. It'll never TRULY overcome curb weight, but it can do a GREAT job. I never thought a 612 Scaglietti could drive like that until I drove one ... and given the Veyron's budget, its handling must be pretty close to perfection.

Veyron for me, of course. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Fortunately, I do.
 
Yeah, but atleast Bugatti HAS pedigree unlike SSC that was made only to beat one of Veyrons many aspects. Your grandma could drive Veyron. Your local VW dealership can do the maintenance. The car spent years in the wind tunnels and laboratories to find out perfect aerodynamic shape and tyres that can handle both 250mph+ and normal driving. And this far, most of the reviews say that it drives like big Elise, which is quite a compliment for a 2-ton car. In addition, it has revolutionary gearbox, and various bits and pieces in the interior (diamonds and gold in the clock, mind you) cost more than few modern sportscars. and all this because VW wanted to make a car that would leave unforgettable mark in the automotive world while re-introducing Bugatti.
 
Dumb to choose the SSC, really? Well lets see with the Veyron you get a car that can't do much other than straight line because of its ridiculous curb weight. It's something i would expect from Mercedes, huge raw power with tons of forced induction and a ton of weight.
Wrong on both accounts.
Who cares if it has a nice interior? Its pedigree is minimal, Bugatti has done almost nothing in the last 50 years outside the EB110 and that, that was a supercar, but had to be designed by different people.
The interior is just a small piece of the masterpiece.
I wouldnt want any of the cars, but at about 1/3 of the price I'll take the SSC since its faster and its a real drivers car, weighing over 1000lbs less than the Veyron.
How can you say that without having driven either?
My thoughts exactly.
Anyone can make a car go fast with 16 cylinders, 4 turbos, and 10 radiators, its just a half-a$$ed way to do it.
That actually has nothing to do with half-assing it. That help propels the rather heavy Veyron to its speed, and its an amazement in itself that with so much equipment, there has not been any major recall on any part.
If im buying a supercar it should be quick and nimble, not a fast boat. That's why the Veyron is still way out of the McLaren F1's league.
The cars are not even comparable to begin with. The F1 wasn't even intended to go 240Mph. It's only purpose was to be a true driver's sportscar, not hit ungodly speeds. The Veyron's purpose was much different. Combine excellent craftsmanship of the body & luxury with that of amazing performance & state of the art technology.
 
Im just trying to say, id prefer the lighter drivers car.

Id rather have a Mclaren than a Veyron, just as id rather have something like an Elise vs a SL65 AMG. Sure in the Merc you get 660HP and great luxury, but the Elise will just be more fun to drive, especially in everyday situations. Like i said, i don't like any of the 3 cars in the thread and i especially don't like forced induction.
 
That was much better than making false assumptions and posting them as fact. A lighter, more stripped out car appeals to you more, that's fair enough. Me, I prefer the luxury, especially in every day use. Driving to work and back and to places I get sent to and back every day in an Elise wouldn't make the journeys easier for me imo, having plenty of comfrot and a good cd in the player on the other hand works ;)👍.
 
Im just trying to say, id prefer the lighter drivers car.

Id rather have a Mclaren than a Veyron, just as id rather have something like an Elise vs a SL65 AMG. Sure in the Merc you get 660HP and great luxury, but the Elise will just be more fun to drive, especially in everyday situations.

You can't tell other people to drive the car before making comparisons when you do the same.

For your information, there are plenty of 1,400lb sportscars that are absolutely terrible. Weight is good, but it takes the engineering to dial things in.

I'd have the Elise way before the Veyron as well.
 

I take it this thing's not safe? It's padded worse than an asylum :scared:

While the Veyron is by far the ugliest of the group, imo, it still seems like the all-around best car. But TC, you're forgetting the Keating TKR, which has/will have 1500hp, and "should be capable of speeds approaching 270mph".

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You can't tell other people to drive the car before making comparisons when you do the same.

For your information, there are plenty of 1,400lb sportscars that are absolutely terrible. Weight is good, but it takes the engineering to dial things in.

I'd have the Elise way before the Veyron as well.

Id didnt tell you to drive it, i said you hadnt driven it, and i admitted to not even reading full reviews of the SSC. It was just everyone was so quick to dismiss the SSC, despite it being the fastest produciton car in the world.
 
If I'm gonna drive something on the road, it's the Veyron all the way, but personally, for that money, I'm forgetting about it, Buying a GT-R, and with the spare cash, some late '90s GT1 car.
 
If I'm gonna drive something on the road, it's the Veyron all the way, but personally, for that money, I'm forgetting about it, Buying a GT-R, and with the spare cash, some late '90s GT1 car.
For the money buy a F40 or an old F1 car, and a STI or EVO as a Daily driver.
 
I take it this thing's not safe? It's padded worse than an asylum :scared:

While the Veyron is by far the ugliest of the group, imo, it still seems like the all-around best car. But TC, you're forgetting the Keating TKR, which has/will have 1500hp, and "should be capable of speeds approaching 270mph".

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I'll believe it when I see it. Keating's previous car claimed the same thing, but soon disappeared. Keating was the company with that blue car carrying a Zonda rear, btw.
 
The Veyron and the McLaren F1 are completely different machines, with completely different ideas behind them. Did they both set out to develop the world's fastest car? Yes, but the McLaren was designed and tested with drivers in mind, from a sports-car marque renowned for its Formula 1 technology, whereas the Bugatti was borne from a resurrected luxury car marque, and was designed to be the very best in engineering of every form, to attend to the driver's every need, not to be a track car. A BMW 760Li costs more and is faster than a 325i, but which would you rather take out on the track? Driver's cars are made by Ferrari and Porsche, not Bugatti or Mercedes. Every review cites the heaviness and imperfection of Veyrons, SLRs, and the like as track cars, but they are for an entirely different customer. Mercedes does make some driver's cars, such as the CLK-GTR, but the SLR is a different machine.
 
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Macca F1.
The whole package. Not a one hit "oooh look, i can go fast" wonder.

Every wonder why modern supercars are still measured by it? Still compared to it?

One word; seminal.
 
I can respect the Veyron for what it does (well sort of), but I don't think I would ever want one since it looks like a cockroach. There is something I just like about the 9ff GT9 and would love to own one barring I could and had everything else I wanted automotively first. That's my pick, and no I don't care if "I can't live with it every day", if I was rich enough to own any of those cars the last thing I would be doing is driving it everyday.
 
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Macca F1.
The whole package. Not a one hit "oooh look, i can go fast" wonder.

Every wonder why modern supercars are still measured by it? Still compared to it?

One word; seminal.

Surprising to hear someone whose opinion I respect take this viewpoint; I still disagree (though it makes me think).
 
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