Vista (Longhorn) Beta 1 (47 Screen shots)

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As you can see the new verison of windows is looking very snazzy indeed, i havent yet installed it myself, but im going to as soon as ive downloaded it. I got the screens from a friend so i wanted to share them with the GTP users.






















Sorry about the amount of pics here, but they show all aspects of Vista and IE7. To me i looks a little like OSX but if they want to compete with OSX then i guess they have to make it look alot better than XP, i think that XP looks like a plastic pile of crap compared to OSX, but vista looks good. Just hope it runs better than other windows.
 
chinko
tabbed browsing in IE? snazzy :D

Hmm. This whole package is just one big rip off of every good thing about almost every other piece of software that Microsoft hasn't made.

Am looking forward to getting a hold of it none the less, the Aero styling looks bootiful :dopey:
 
At least the Aero style is starting to look a bit better and cleaner than what we saw in the first few Longhorn alphas. 👍

I can't wait to try out Virtual Folders though. No more having to manually move stuff around on the HDD into folders. :D
 
Shannon
At least the Aero style is starting to look a bit better and cleaner than what we saw in the first few Longhorn alphas. 👍

I can't wait to try out Virtual Folders though. No more having to manually move stuff around on the HDD into folders. :D
Could you explain what virtual folders actually do?
 
I bet those near 3D graphics for icons will slow down PC's.
 
Slow down your PC, if you have a GeForce 5200. It should run well with a DirectX 9 card, better with DirectX 10.

I already made another partition on my hard disk. I'll install beta 1 tomorrow.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
I bet those near 3D graphics for icons will slow down PC's.

Well actually i don't think they will. It's not a particularly intensive OS, much in same way that you don't need a supercomputer to run Tiger, but that looks really nice.

Vista is image based, so it should run much quicker than you think.
 
donbenni
Vista is image based, so it should run much quicker than you think.
Not quite. The GUI is hardware accelerated. In other words, to get all that snazzy transparency and stuff, your video card needs to run double-time.

But the icons shouldn't have any effect on the performance.
 
i cant find it on the official site where to download it from - i used the link sprite gave us but i cant see a download.
 
You're not elite enough to download it.

You must be a member of MSDN or get the torrent.
 
Looking at recent news I would say that Nvidia cards will not be gifted with Direcx10, this could well make my SLI setup obselite.

I bet those near 3D graphics for icons will slow down PC's.

You don't get very slow 64 bit processors.
 
My Dad works with the very latest software at his work (top secret software engineer), so he might be able to get a copy of it from there. 👍
 
G.T
My Dad works with the very latest software at his work (top secret software engineer), so he might be able to get a copy of it from there. 👍
Just don't post a video online with the new stuff like that loser did with the XBox360. :lol:
 
VTGT07
Just don't post a video online with the new stuff like that loser did with the XBox360. :lol:
Sure. :lol:

Anyway, if my Dad tells anyone outside his work about what he's doing, he can go to jail. :(
 
Sorry i forgot to mention that you have to be a member of MSDN, im not so im going to use the torrent version, when i can be ars*d. So the UI will be Hardware driven in the final release coz this version seems to run even on the slowest of machines, plus as soon as MS have stuck all the crap in like mesenger and other crap that isnt needed to run windows then it will surly be a resorce hog. btw the download is just tipping 2gb so it aint small either.
 
Well I always knew Apple were at least a generation ahead with OSX, but it looks like they were really two generations ahead. MS have designed the look and functionality of Vista with a sheet of tracing paper... pity it still won't be anywhere near as solid or thoughtful as OSX - the real reason for Apple's recent strength.

Vista still looks a bit untidy and ununified in its look. Those pics had better not be what the final release looks like. They look slick on initial impression, but the slightly amateur design shines through in the details (classic MS style) - the so so spacing between buttons, bad font choices that promotes aliasing, crappy "standing up" folder design that just looks ungainly and unsettled... and the yellow folders look dated... They've totally ripped off OSX's trash can with the recycle bin this time - its an identical wire basket style, but not as clean nor classy looking, which is the case with all windows icons. Whats the point of blatantly copying if you still don't beat the original?

I am absolutely perplexed as to why MS refuse to hire a gun design team to create something beautiful that people will actually want to use... Why do they keep thinking this stuff doesn't matter... Yes, Vista does look better than XP, but man, that wasn't hard. It just looks like a decent winamp skin. Vaguely modern and slick, but hardly polished, far and away from a classy next-gen futuristic OS...

The benchmark for stability to beat: OSX never locks up. Ever. (unless you try to get a hardware fault, like throwing your laptop down some stairs, in which case Macs still fair much better than any PC laptop). This is a very scary target to aim at with any first release new version of windows... MS's track record ain't exactly fantastic there... You're always a dill if you buy the first release guys... don't see it changing this time round.

I'd also like to see what MS's answer to Apple's iLife suite of applications is... they'd better have something good, otherwise they have the business smarts of a gnat!

PCs vs Macs - my experience:
Basically, if you really need a PC for work (specialised applications you just can't get on Mac) or you need to play games (which consoles are much better at generally these days - thats where all the good devs are anyway) you will need a PC, and I wish you all the best, you'll need it.
If you want to do anything else with your computer, there is no need to put up with MS.

You'll just laugh like mad at MS if you actually understand WHY mac users are like they are... Apple users ain't MS haters for the hell of it, they're just mac fans! I have both, the pc stays off most of the time, even though its actually faster in sheer grunt (and I LOVE GAMES!). That says a lot about the strength/usability/enjoyment of OSX. I'd rather use a mac even though I can't play the latest games. I fired up the pc to play half-life2 and far-cry and then went back to the mac. The PC is pretty much just an expensive game console nowadays!

Its funny, I saw those Vista pics and they just didn't scream "wow this is a new generation of OS" at me. They might do that to current Windows users, but they were really underwhelming to me - they actually looked a bit dated. I expected Vista to make a much bigger impact considering the amount of hype and dev time it has had. I suppose MS just have a crippling corporate culture that just breeds mediocrity. Can't wait for the endless security updates and bug fixes.


Not that MS care about the actual product, they'll rake it in nonetheless...
 
I can't wait for vista, infact, i'm addicted to the longhorn style for windowblinds now - i won't part with it :D
 
James2097
Well I always knew Apple were at least a generation ahead with OSX, but it looks like they were really two generations ahead. MS have designed the look and functionality of Vista with a sheet of tracing paper... pity it still won't be anywhere near as solid or thoughtful as OSX - the real reason for Apple's recent strength.

Vista still looks a bit untidy and ununified in its look. Those pics had better not be what the final release looks like. They look slick on initial impression, but the slightly amateur design shines through in the details (classic MS style) - the so so spacing between buttons, bad font choices that promotes aliasing, crappy "standing up" folder design that just looks ungainly and unsettled... and the yellow folders look dated... They've totally ripped off OSX's trash can with the recycle bin this time - its an identical wire basket style, but not as clean nor classy looking, which is the case with all windows icons. Whats the point of blatantly copying if you still don't beat the original?

I am absolutely perplexed as to why MS refuse to hire a gun design team to create something beautiful that people will actually want to use... Why do they keep thinking this stuff doesn't matter... Yes, Vista does look better than XP, but man, that wasn't hard. It just looks like a decent winamp skin. Vaguely modern and slick, but hardly polished, far and away from a classy next-gen futuristic OS...

The benchmark for stability to beat: OSX never locks up. Ever. (unless you try to get a hardware fault, like throwing your laptop down some stairs, in which case Macs still fair much better than any PC laptop). This is a very scary target to aim at with any first release new version of windows... MS's track record ain't exactly fantastic there... You're always a dill if you buy the first release guys... don't see it changing this time round.

I'd also like to see what MS's answer to Apple's iLife suite of applications is... they'd better have something good, otherwise they have the business smarts of a gnat!

PCs vs Macs - my experience:
Basically, if you really need a PC for work (specialised applications you just can't get on Mac) or you need to play games (which consoles are much better at generally these days - thats where all the good devs are anyway) you will need a PC, and I wish you all the best, you'll need it.
If you want to do anything else with your computer, there is no need to put up with MS.

You'll just laugh like mad at MS if you actually understand WHY mac users are like they are... Apple users ain't MS haters for the hell of it, they're just mac fans! I have both, the pc stays off most of the time, even though its actually faster in sheer grunt (and I LOVE GAMES!). That says a lot about the strength/usability/enjoyment of OSX. I'd rather use a mac even though I can't play the latest games. I fired up the pc to play half-life2 and far-cry and then went back to the mac. The PC is pretty much just an expensive game console nowadays!

Its funny, I saw those Vista pics and they just didn't scream "wow this is a new generation of OS" at me. They might do that to current Windows users, but they were really underwhelming to me - they actually looked a bit dated. I expected Vista to make a much bigger impact considering the amount of hype and dev time it has had. I suppose MS just have a crippling corporate culture that just breeds mediocrity. Can't wait for the endless security updates and bug fixes.


Not that MS care about the actual product, they'll rake it in nonetheless...
Early days yet. The final product is expected in Q4 2006, more than a year away yet. ;)

And if you've seen how many different designs they've tried in the alphas leading up to beta 1, I don't think this design is completely concrete yet.
 
Will the Vista beta work if you don't have a 64 bit CPU?
 
Yes, it will work. I've seen both 32-bit and 64-bit versions floating around.
 
Windows Vista...A System hog! - [Computer Hardware]
Submitted by Buzzons on 9/7/2005 10:20:08 AM

A Tech Strategist within Microsoft, Nigel Page, has gone on record to discuss the hardware requirements for Windows Vista, due out next Christmas.

What he's said is kind of shocking.

System breakdown

Graphics: Vista has changed from using the CPU to display bitmaps on the screen to using the GPU to render vectors. This means the entire display model in Vista has changed. To render the screen in the GPU requires an awful lot of memory to do optimally - 256MB is a happy medium, but you'll actually see benefit from more. Microsoft believes that you're going to see the amount of video memory being shipped on cards hurtle up when Vista ships.

CPU: Threading is the main target for Vista. Currently, very little of Windows XP is threaded - the target is to make Vista perform far better on dual-core and multi-core processors.

RAM: 2GB is the ideal configuration for 64-bit Vista, we're told. Vista 32-bit will work ideally at 1GB, and minimum 512. However, since 64-bit is handling data chunks that are double the size, you'll need double the memory, hence the 2GB. Nigel mentions DDR3 - which is a little odd, since the roadmap for DDR3, on Intel gear at least, doesn't really kick in until 2007.

HDD: SATA is definitely the way forward for Vista, due, Microsoft tells us, to Native Command Queueing. NCQ allows for out of order completions - that is, if Vista needs tasks 1,2,3,4 and 5 done, it can do them in the order 2,5,3,4,1 if that's a more efficient route for the hard drive head to take over the disk. This leads to far faster completion times. NCQ is supported on SATA2 drives, so expect them to start becoming the standard sooner rather than later. Microsoft thinks that these features will provide SCSI-level performance.

Bus: AGP is 'not optimal' for Vista. Because of the fact that graphics cards may have to utilise main system memory for some rendering tasks, a fast, bi-direction bus is needed - that's PCI express.

Display: Prepare to feel the red mist of rage - no current TFT monitor out there is going to support high definition playback in Vista. You may already have heard rumblings about this, but here it is. To play HD-DVD or Blu-Ray content you need a HDCP compatible monitor. Why? Because these formats use HDCP to encrypt a video signal as it travels along a digital connection to an output device, to prevent people copying it. If you have just standard DVI or even an analogue output, you're going to see HD scaled down to a far-less-than-HD resolution for viewing - which sucks. This isn't really Microsoft's fault - HDCP is something that content makers, in their eternal wisdom, have decided is necessary to stop us all watching pirated movies. Yay.

for the full interview head off to Bit Tech

just saw this i know its old new now but ha ha ha Microsoft strike again
 
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